OTK7 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 On 3/19/2025 at 5:10 PM, Steel9Dragon said: дайте нам переключатель, чтобы мы могли сами выбирать, как должен выглядеть сайт, вместо того, чтобы навязывать нам это ненужное решение. Expand I support the proposal Give us the choice to do what we want to see. Old or new design. I don't want to look at this. No information, and even the titles are cut off. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UX99 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 (edited) Everything about this is just "bad". Overly clunky interface. Using Shadow-Root which prevents people from trying to fix the search (visually) themselves. Having the search take up a giant window for really no reason. No way to disable the keyboard shortcuts. Closing any feedback on the actual feedback website. The "our testers liked it so it must be good" is a really bad approach. So the people who willingly opted in claimed it was good. You're ignoring anyone who opted in, didn't like it, then opted back out. You're ignoring the countless people who really hate this change. It also isn't hating change for the sake of it being different. It's hating it as it is just really badly designed. It's slow to load. It's much slower to really do just about anything. It takes up too much of the screen and has less to offer the end-user. Edited March 19 by UX99 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdi83252 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 Just give us the old UI back, better yet - make it opt-in if you still want to torment users with the catastrophically bad new UI from the get-go, and at the end of the month see how many users prefer the old design compared to what you've created. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakubread Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 On 3/19/2025 at 4:02 PM, Iluviel said: Thanks for the clarification. Would you be able to expand on what isn't smooth or what feels jumpy/laggy? A video capture would be ideal, but I appreciate that may be asking a lot. Would be able to share more details on your setup so we can reproduce this problem? What browser are you using? Do you have extensions installed? What page are you specifically seeing this on? What elements of the page are not performant? Expand I do actually have video capture comparing how the old and new layouts run, but the file limit for forum posts is too small to upload it. I'm on firefox, with a typical uBlock + Ghostery setup of extensions for adblock (along with a handful of other misc. plugins that shouldn't be relevant) and none of these have ever seemed to have an affect on how well pages run before. It seems to be an issue on virtually every page using the new layout (Game homepage, the search box/search results page, and the larger "mods" pages (ie https://www.nexusmods.com/games/skyrimspecialedition/mods) are where I've personally experienced it). Basically, scrolling up and down the pages is very jumpy. Instead of scrolling the wheel and the page moving smoothly, it is slow to start moving and then moves at a noticably low framerate. This "lag" as it were also applies to opening/closing the search box. Pages load perfectly fine, the only noticable drop in speed when it comes to pages opening is that mods take slightly longer than they used to to appear on the search result page, but it's fairly minor. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmd2015 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 (edited) This is so bad for discovering new mods, i suspect they are planning to bring paid positioning or something like that. There is no other reason to have to scroll so much in order to get to newest mods. Please revert these changes. Edited March 19 by jmd2015 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battlestar1965 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 On 3/19/2025 at 11:52 AM, Iluviel said: We're discussing internally whether https://www.nexusmods.com/mods/trackingcentre is a better home for it. If we can, we'll move it there soon. I need to pull some developers in to look at it. Expand One Moment.....sometimes I'm a little slow ...Are You saying you're going to take away "https://www.nexusmods.com/GAMENAME/mods/trackingcentre ? And you are only discussing IF your 're putting in a replacement. And from what i can see https://www.nexusmods.com/mods/trackingcentre is not a better home. Everytime I need to put in the game name in the "filter" for what i want to see if some of my tracked mods have gotten an update. The game specific tracking centre as it is implemented right now (talking about the old design) is most vital part for me, which I'm using the most. Sometimes more than the new mods part. And since I'm not using collections I don't have somebody who's telling me "Hey there's an Update of the collection. I'll do this myself and it's part of the experience. I'm running Skyrim SE with rouhgly 1700 mods with roughly 1300 plugins and i NEED a tracking centre, or I'm lost....it get's worse and worse and worse ...... 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiteFromWindhelm Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 I think this warrants a thing where everyone can vote or voice what they prefer that's advertised on the site somewhere. Also why would you force a less functional version and promise to fix or add back things that were present and not broken on the old one. Should've released it when it was on par at least. 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battlestar1965 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 On 3/19/2025 at 2:15 PM, HadToRegister said: All I'd like to see is the quick search return to the old style, where I could stay on the game page, and just use the drop-down search results to quickly right-click to queue up the pages by using “Open in new tab”. Expand EXACTLY THIS !!! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showler Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 On 3/19/2025 at 5:33 PM, NiteFromWindhelm said: I think this warrants a thing where everyone can vote or voice what they prefer that's advertised on the site somewhere. Also why would you force a less functional version and promise to fix or add back things that were present and not broken on the old one. Should've released it when it was on par at least. Expand Yes, maybe they could put a big banner across the top of the page saying "try out the new beta and give us your opinion before we go live with it" for a month or two? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idsertian Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 On 3/19/2025 at 9:11 AM, Iluviel said: all I can say is the majority of people do and anyone complaining about them in this thread is in a vocal minority. Our data proves this Expand Data driven approach, eh? How's this for data: The reams of comments and feedback threads (and their upvotes) telling you this new UI is junk, is hard to use and hard to look at, straight up doesn't work on occasion, and that the old UI was better, and the actual constructive criticism and suggestions by users to alleviate this? How about the ratio of "like" reactions on each comment stating the above, relative the ratio of your "explanations?" How about the fact that a large proportion of the users complaining are the same people paying money for site features, and that perhaps their opinions should be considered a bit more carefully than "complaining about change" and being classed as a "vocal minority?" (That's to say nothing of the fact that the vast majority of people probably don't even know the forums even exist, since they're hidden away under the community dropdown, not to mention that they're not exactly intuitively laid out. I'm a smart guy, and it took me a solid few minutes to figure out the right place to post) Where's this data you speak of? Can we see it? Can you show it to us? Or is it all in the realm of "just trust me, bro?" I could say I have data to prove that Valve will release Half-Life 3 in July of this year, but that doesn't make it true, and unless I actually present it, I should (rightly) be ridiculed. Someone else further up the thread mentioned that you don't need to change the UI when you change the backend. You don't want to support both the old look and the new look with a toggle, like both reddit and imgur do (not that that's a back-breaking ask)? Fine. Ditch the new look, and point the new code to the old UI assets. Your users don't want this. And since your users are the ones, you know, using the site, you should perhaps listen to the data they're giving you. Especially when a good portion of said users are responsible for footing the bill. We don't care what your "plans" are, we don't care whether it's your pet project or not, we don't care how much was invested into it; if we don't like it, if it makes the site harder to use and uglier to look at, if it renders it literally unusable for those of us with eyesight issues, then we DO. NOT. WANT IT. On 3/19/2025 at 5:21 PM, UX99 said: Everything about this is just "bad". Overly clunky interface. Using Shadow-Root which prevents people from trying to fix the search (visually) themselves. Having the search take up a giant window for really no reason. No way to disable the keyboard shortcuts. Closing any feedback on the actual feedback website. The "our testers liked it so it must be good" is a really bad approach. So the people who willingly opted in claimed it was good. You're ignoring anyone who opted in, didn't like it, then opted back out. You're ignoring the countless people who really hate this change. It also isn't hating change for the sake of it being different. It's hating it as it is just really badly designed. It's slow to load. It's much slower to really do just about anything. It takes up too much of the screen and has less to offer the end-user. Expand This guy gets it. Especially point 5. 11 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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