Slow, choppy, buggy game.

[homeworlder1]

Recently i've finally set up a collection of mods that does not crash my games. Well, not directly anymore at least.

Now i experience that the game is slow alltogether, it takes a long time to start up, initially load, and the scripts work a lot slower. e.g. Running with double speed or justing Whirlwind sprint repeatedly WILL make everything "freeze", npc's standing still, menu's not working, ingredients not being picked, etc. This also happens in big battles. I do have a modified memory, to 768 MB without modifying my uGrids. What is causing this ? ENB maybe ?

 

On the buggy part, i will get weird things like (SPOILERS), when Ancano is trying to "activate" the eye of magnus and the Arch Mage stops him, the quest completes and i don't get a new one and everybody, even ancano, carries on with their life while the Arch Mage dissappeared, and only being able to adopt my children to live in the house without the bedroom, while entering any of my houses causes any of the residents to say "You shouldn't be in here", and i get a bounty. For staying in my own home.

 

I don't know what to do, i am completely out of ideas.

 

Specs:

Intel i7-2700k

AMD Radeon HD 6950 2GB

16 GB Corsair Vengeance 1600MHz DDR3 RAM

Game is located in a WD-Green 5400 rpm 1.5 TB HDD, with minimal fragmention.

Modlist:

Some of the minor mods have been removed since this modlist was updated.

Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp
Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp
AzarHair.esm
RaceCompatibility.esm
XFLMain.esm
AP Skyrim.esm
HighResTexturePack01.esp
HighResTexturePack02.esp
HighResTexturePack03.esp
RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp
Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp
Immersive Sounds - Aural Assortment.esp
Immersive Sounds - Magic.esp
Immersive Sounds - Weaponry.esp
Remove Interior Fog V2 - Full Version.esp
Skyrim Shadow Striping Fix.esp
StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp
StaticMeshImprovementMod-DragonbornTernFix.esp
StaticMeshImprovementMod-FurnitureChestSnowFix.esp
Immersive Battles.esp
Immersive Brigands.esp
Immersive Dawnguard.esp
Immersive Dragonborn.esp
Immersive Factions.esp
Immersive Mercenaries.esp
Immersive Patrols.esp
Immersive Travelers.esp
Immersive Werewolves.esp
Lost Art of the Blacksmith.esp
More Craftables.esp
Point The Way.esp
populated prisons.esp
skyBirds - Airborne Perching Birds.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp
ValsCraftingMeltdownAlpha.esp
WetandCold.esp
WetandCold - Ashes.esp
RaceMenu.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
UIExtensions.esp
SkyUI.esp
Cloaks.esp
Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
Crossbows_Basic_Collection_EN_LL.esp
FaceMasksforNPC.esp
fs_lotrpack.esp
FurLinedClothes.esp
glimmer.esp
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
ibanstaff.esp
Immersive Weapons.esp
legionary-vanguard-armor-maty743.esp
Nordic Conqueror Armor.esp
theroadstrokersroguesorceress.esp
theroadstrokersroyalelvenset.esp
Unique Uniques.esp
UniqueBows.esp
Dr_Bandolier.esp
Immersive Darkwater crossing.esp
Immersive Dawnstar.esp
Immersive Dragon Bridge.esp
Immersive Falkreath.esp
Immersive Ivarstead.esp
Immersive Karthwasten.esp
Immersive Kynesgrove.esp
Immersive Morthal.esp
Immersive Orc Strongholds.esp
Immersive Riverwood.esp
Immersive Rorikstead.esp
Immersive Shors stone.esp
Immersive Stonehills.esp
Immersive Whiterun.esp
Inconsequential NPCs.esp
Book Covers Skyrim.esp
Civil War Overhaul.esp
CorrectGenderAnimations.esp
CorrectGenderAnimations-DG.esp
CorrectGenderAnimations-DB.esp
Differently Ebony.esp
EBS - Ammo.esp
EBS - Books (Before).esp
EBS - Food (Weightless).esp
EBS - Ingredients (Weightless).esp
EBS - Misc.esp
EBS - Potions (Weightless).esp
EBS - Soul Gems (Numbered).esp
EBS - Spells.esp
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
longer range range weapons.esp
MasterEnchanter.esp
morrowindimports.esp
Proper Aiming.esp
richer merchants.esp
SameWalkRunSpeedsLite.esp
convenient horses.esp
dD - Easy Lift Bodies and Objects.esp
TheChoiceIsYours_Dawnguard.esp
aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp
DVA - Dynamic Vampire Appearance.esp
Better Vampires.esp
LFox Pickpocketing Chance Caps at 100.esp
Realistic crime report radius.esp
Duel - Combat Realism.esp
The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp
ABT - Loot Arrows +50%.esp
ABT - Faster Bolts Improved +25%.esp
ABT - Faster Arrows Improved +10%.esp
ABT - Merchants Arrows +100%.esp
ABT - Increased Bolts Damage (BS and CCO) +50%.esp
ABT - Increased Progressive Damage (BS and CCO) +50%.esp
ABT - Recover +25% Arrows and Bolts.esp
Uncapped Perks - Magic.esp
Uncapped Perks - Combat + Stealth.esp
dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp
SGEyebrows.esp
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp
XCEMwW.esp
asharaskyrimcharacterpresetsreplacer.esp
XFLConfig.esp
XFLDialogue.esp
XFLPanel.esp
XFLPlugins.esp
reduced distance npc greetings.esp
AelaSylvanMK.esp
Kitiara.esp
the watcher.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
CharGen Morphs.esp
ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp
EEO Morphs.esp
No More Glowing Edges.esp
seeenchs.esp
barenziahquestmarkers.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
conjurationhandfx.esp
elfendragos elf pack.esp
fs_radiantraiment.esp
got_theme.esp
RaceMenuOverlays.esp
FaceMasksOfSkyrim.esp
 

[Rusey]

Some of the minor mods have been removed since this modlist was updated.

 

... Were they scripted? If so, that could be one of your problems.

 

Otherwise, if scripts are running slowly you have too many/you don't have the GPU to handle it. The memory patch helps, but you need to also have the computer horsepower to back it up. You're also adding a LOT of NPCs, which can be taxing on a system -- especially if scripts need to be applied to those NPCs (as Wet and Cold, for instance, does).

[homeworlder1]

 

Some of the minor mods have been removed since this modlist was updated.

 

... Were they scripted? If so, that could be one of your problems.

 

Otherwise, if scripts are running slowly you have too many/you don't have the GPU to handle it. The memory patch helps, but you need to also have the computer horsepower to back it up. You're also adding a LOT of NPCs, which can be taxing on a system -- especially if scripts need to be applied to those NPCs (as Wet and Cold, for instance, does).

 

I see your point though this problem has emerged recently, and previously nothing was slowed down. It is the game itself that has gotten slow, and new savegames will be affected by this as well. If it makes any difference i have ClearInvalidRegistrations activated in SKSE.ini and chargen.dll, MemoryBlocksLog.dll, nioverride.dll, showRaceMenu_preCacheKiller.dll, SKSE_Elys_AltF4.dll, and SKSE_Elys_Uncapper.dll in my plugins folder. The wet and cold thing is definitely a thing to consider though, and i will try to remove some of the NPC-altering options. Still, none of these possible solutions explains the odd bugs.

[homeworlder1]

bumpy

[Georgiegril]

Your system is much better than mine...I am always looking for performance improvements. To this end, have you tried:

1. Using a texture optimizer (like SMCO, DDSOpt, or Optimizer Textures) to optimize your textures and normal maps?

2. Are you limiting your fps to avoid the hurry up-slowdown issue?

3. Kinda obvious, but have you checked to make sure that you don't have any unessential background service/process causing the problem? --things like autoupdates, autoscans, IM or Email checkers, etc.

[Dhegonus]

unparking your cpus and using something like razor gamebooster can help a lot, no matter what specs i have, i'll always do those two, for the extra power :)

[homeworlder1]

Your system is much better than mine...I am always looking for performance improvements. To this end, have you tried:

1. Using a texture optimizer (like SMCO, DDSOpt, or Optimizer Textures) to optimize your textures and normal maps?

2. Are you limiting your fps to avoid the hurry up-slowdown issue?

3. Kinda obvious, but have you checked to make sure that you don't have any unessential background service/process causing the problem? --things like autoupdates, autoscans, IM or Email checkers, etc.

1. I'll try, but i doubt this is a texture issue

2. Nope, should i ?

3. Yes

 

unparking your cpus and using something like razor gamebooster can help a lot, no matter what specs i have, i'll always do those two, for the extra power :smile:

I'm not so fond of any Razer software, but what is the so called unparking? :)

[Georgiegril]

2. Yes

 

Have you tried using skyrim performance monitor to track various performance indicators in game? If not, I would do that, too.

[camaro_69_327]

A few things.....

Looks like you are using BOSS to sort your mods....could you post your BOSS log. I say looks like because all the mods you have AFTER the bashed patch would be mods BOSS didn't recognize. One of them for sure is in the wrong place.

According to the author of Immerse Armors, the 2 mods from that, need to load in this order.

Load Order:
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

The Bashed patch needs to be last loading (except) for a few cases where the author states it need to be after Bashed, OR if its a dynamic patch, IE: Reproccer.

You have a 5400 rpm HDD so you will have stutters as the game loads data. As the poster (Georgiegrill) above states, get Skyrim performance monitor and see whats going on.

Yes, limiting your frame rate to a lower value will make the game seem smoother. its easy to see the difference between 100 FPS and 20 then it is to see the difference between 30-45 . if you set the FPS to be 60 and find it jumps from 60 down to 25-45 then setting it at 30 would only cause you to see the difference of 25-30. Yes the game will look liquid smooth if at a constant 30 FPS.

IF you are using BOSS its not working for you...this part is a mess...lol

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

Dawnguard.esm

HearthFires.esm

Dragonborn.esm

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp

AzarHair.esm

RaceCompatibility.esm

XFLMain.esm

AP Skyrim.esm

HighResTexturePack01.esp

HighResTexturePack02.esp

HighResTexturePack03.esp

The unofficial patches should load directly after the DLC they are for, and before the next DLC is loaded. So more like this...

Dawnguard.esm

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp

HearthFires.esm

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp

Dragonborn.esm

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp

With the 3 HD DLC's i would not be surprised if your are over filling that 2 GB GPU and are spilling over into system RAM and seeing a stutter from that.

Get .."Skyrim Preformance Monitor" run the game, and post a screenie...I am curious... :smile:

Post your BOSS log....

EDIT: Google for the APP to unpark. read up on it to see if its something you want to do.

Edited March 19, 2014 by camaro_69_327

[homeworlder1]

I got my load order fixed, turned out i was missing the userlist file from the unofficial patches, but my game is still slow and the scripts are very delayed, etc. Also, i searched on unparking, and apparently Windows 8 already got that from the go?