Locked Constructions?

[Malchik]

As a newcomer to modding I am making a fair share of errors and generally learning from them. However there is one situation that is causing me a good deal of trouble and I don't know what is happening. Periodically for no obvious reason I can tell the cell becomes 'frozen'. I can set it to active and do whatever I want in the cell then press save (which it says it does) however when I reload nothing that I have changed is there. Whatever I do and whatever I believe I have saved it is not there. The first time I had made and corrected an error but the second I sent a file to someone else for review. He made a couple of changes and sent it back. I loaded the new version and worked on it. When I went back later - no changes were made and sure enough, no changes were possible. I can't see any 'locked for edit' function but there has to be one. Or is it something else? All help appreciated.

 

If it helps the 'undo' button only works for replacement of deleted items. It does not replaced moved objects whether the move was intentional or accidental.

[Povuholo]

I've never had anything like that... There is no locking cell option AFAIK. Something is going wrong when you save your file i think.

[Kevin Woodman]

Wow, that's messed up man, You are having some issues :).

 

The undo function undos pretty much anything you do, including movement. unless you exit the program, the undo is lost, obviously.

 

Cells shouldn't become locked, i'm not even sure what you mean by that, theres an option in preferences that keeps a new cell from loading, when working on exterior cells, but that doesn't lock out any edits, just keeps it from automatically switching active cells.

 

Something is not working properly.

 

does this happen on all files or just the one?

[Gabbemaster]

We have allready talked about this you and I, and I was not able to help you, but I have found something else in the TES-CS that keeps annoying me and that may be related to your problem:

 

When I work with a cell, it sometimes "freeze" I can't move stuff around and the only way to select things is by klick-and-draw a square around them.

[ThetaOrionis01]

I've already suggested to Malchik that there might possibly be a conflict with another program which causes his CS to behave oddly - on my computer, for example, whenever AVG is performing the daily system scan I can't select anything in the render window with a single click, but have to double click to bring up the properties.

 

Does anyone know of any software conflicts involving the CS?

[Mercbird]

I have noticed the same with AVG, wich autoruns at startup on my system. I opened the task manager and looked at performance tab and saw it spiking wildly, so I changed my performance settings (my computer, r-click, properties, advanced tab) to 'adjust for best performance' on the visual effects tab, where it used to be on appearance, and now it seems fine.

 

On the next tab of performance settings, called advanced I checked 'programs' for proccesor scheduling and memory usage.

Also changed the virtual paging file to the max allowable on my pc, which seemed to help the construction set's performance. Switch also told me to ...

Oh, and once it’s renamed, you’ll

need to select the whole cell, move it up the Z axis (hold Z while

holding the left mouse button down and move the mouse), then press

CTRL+Z to return it to its original position. Then save. This is just so

your ESP will have the cell properly referenced, otherwise, next time

you load the interior, work that isn’t your own will disappear! It’s

weird like that

 

Since I've started doing this when I open the cs for a session, I've yet to lose work. What I did notice is that when I leave the cs open for a long time without working on it, its sluggish... (I have pent 4 ,2.8 ghz dual processor with 512ram and a geforce fx5600xt card)

 

Still I turn on my pc and go and make breakfast and coffee, leaving it to happily hum to itself untill its ready for my impatient clicking in the cs :rolleyes:

I dont know that what I did directly addressed the problem, or not, but both of us feel better about waking up now.

[Switch]

Switch also told me to ...

Oh, and once it’s renamed, you’ll

need to select the whole cell, move it up the Z axis (hold Z while

holding the left mouse button down and move the mouse), then press

CTRL+Z to return it to its original position. Then save. This is just so

your ESP will have the cell properly referenced, otherwise, next time

you load the interior, work that isn’t your own will disappear! It’s

weird like that

 

Since I've started doing this when I open the cs for a session, I've yet to lose work.

Ah, I think you misunderstood me a bit there. ^^ That's just when renaming a cell to something else, when the cell has already been worked on by somebody else. Once you've done the z axis trick once and saved, you don't need to do it again.

 

Malchik is working on interiors from scratch, so I don't think that would be the issue...

 

I have had strange things happen with my CS as well when running virus scans. Is it possible your computer schedules regular scans and runs them in the background, Malchik?

[Malchik]

Entirely possible. But it doesn't do it in any way that informs me.

[Mercbird]

That's just when renaming a cell to something else, when the cell has already been worked on by somebody else

 

I understood, but basically started from scratch (editing was givin me a headache) an the things got in the way !!

Even when I reopen some cells that Ive created I sometimes found things dissapeared and would then do the 'Switch trick' and presto! All well.

 

>probably shouldnt have told you that, did copy and paste render after heavy deleting< :ph34r: Possibly post in technical section?