Fox News.

[JimboUK]

We could do with something like Fox News over here to counter the left wing propaganda from the BBC.

 

:thumbsup: You speak truth there, Jim. The BBC long ago lost its formerly august reputation for impartiality.

 

They've given up all pretense of impartiality in the run up to the election, what makes it even worse is we're forced to pay for it. :verymad:

 

Don't think the Fox News style of inaccuracy and terror would work too well on someone other than stupid Americans...

 

http://www.dump.com/2009/08/04/fox-news-fa...-the-live-desk/

 

Aired July 27, posted to that site on Aug. 4th... And there's worse if you bother to look and aren't in an exhausted stupor from finishing your 12 hour shift in a crappy job just to stay out of debt. They don't know how to even spell Journalistic Integrity, and apparently assigned the job to whatever mentally challenged intern that does the rest of their fact checking.

 

Frankly, I'd like to hope that the rest of the world would strive for better.

 

America doesn't have a monopoly on stupid people easily lead by the media, there's a chance our current government could get re-elected when they should be swinging from lampposts for what they've done.

[Kendo 2]

America doesn't have a monopoly on stupid people easily lead by the media, there's a chance our current government could get re-elected when they should be swinging from lampposts for what they've done.

 

I would have to agree. I watch international televison out of curiosity. I see things in the UK now that remind me of happened in the mid 70's. Back then is was just 'The Labour Party', but they were laying the framework then for 'Nu-Labour' now. A lot of broken promises back in the 70's. An entire generation felt disenfranchised, like they had no say in their own lives. Almost one million people were on the Dole, firefighters and garbage men were on strike (trash was piled ten feet high in the streets of London for months), the race riots, spikes in drug use and alcoholism, the North End was a war zone, and the whole while the Labour MPs danced and drank champagne behind closed doors. But they felt the backlash from their constituents. One million people unemployed tend to speak or act out once they've had enough.

 

Now when I watch BBC or Sky I see the build up again. There will be no Silver Jubilee coming to distract the unwashed masses like there was in 1977 and your MPs will being paying the price one way or another. Too bad it may be at the suffering of the British people.

 

*looks northward to Washington D.C.*

HEY! YOU UP THERE! ARE YOU WATCHING?!?! Can't you fools see?

*crickets chirp in response*

[Blue Morphos]

Please forgive my newness and if what I say has been mentioned before than I apologise. Is it not our inner most desire to seek out the truth? If it is so and I believe it is then shouldn't we as intelligent beings take anything given to us through a news medium,no matter which one it is be taken with a grain of salt?

Is it not if we as thinking individuals a necessity to seek out,find from "many" sources the facts to something and then once satisfied that we have said facts digest them and seek the truth behind what we are given.

Is it not a realistic idea to not depend on one news source as being "it" and as a duty to ourselves find all we can before making a legitimate decision on what the story is.

We all know every news bureau has an agenda and to sit still and accept the spoon fed mush they feed us is it not wrong to believe in it without making an effort to find the truth?. It's out there on any issue and Fox and CNN and MSN etc will never tell you an entire story. Take Iraq and Afghanistan,they show us pictures of devastation and people burning the flag but if you dig into the net you find pics of grateful farmers and citizens thanking our military for stepping in and helping them.

Is a fool someone that sits and takes in what a news agency says is true or is a fool someone who digs to locate the facts and the truth and yet still believes what he is feed by said agency.

 

If you lack the time to verify what what your told, again by any news bureau, do you then have the right to disagree with someone who has taken the time to discover all the facts!

 

Look to yourself before looking to another and see if you have become complacent or in fact you seek what others choose not to find!

[Maharg67]

Please forgive my newness and if what I say has been mentioned before than I apologise. Is it not our inner most desire to seek out the truth? If it is so and I believe it is then shouldn't we as intelligent beings take anything given to us through a news medium,no matter which one it is be taken with a grain of salt?

Is it not if we as thinking individuals a necessity to seek out,find from "many" sources the facts to something and then once satisfied that we have said facts digest them and seek the truth behind what we are given.

Is it not a realistic idea to not depend on one news source as being "it" and as a duty to ourselves find all we can before making a legitimate decision on what the story is.

We all know every news bureau has an agenda and to sit still and accept the spoon fed mush they feed us is it not wrong to believe in it without making an effort to find the truth?. It's out there on any issue and Fox and CNN and MSN etc will never tell you an entire story. Take Iraq and Afghanistan,they show us pictures of devastation and people burning the flag but if you dig into the net you find pics of grateful farmers and citizens thanking our military for stepping in and helping them.

Is a fool someone that sits and takes in what a news agency says is true or is a fool someone who digs to locate the facts and the truth and yet still believes what he is feed by said agency.

 

If you lack the time to verify what what your told, again by any news bureau, do you then have the right to disagree with someone who has taken the time to discover all the facts!

 

Look to yourself before looking to another and see if you have become complacent or in fact you seek what others choose not to find!

 

I like what you have to say, Blue Morphos, and I agree.

 

As far as Fox News go, it is a piece of extreme right wing trash but at times quite unintentionally funny.

 

As far as the idea of CNN and Obama being left wing, the idea is most odd from my point of view as a former Marxist. CNN could be seen as at most moderate conservative. Obama is moderate, not socialist. What much of the rest of the world takes as being middle ground politics or even moderately conservative, is often portrayed by Americans as left wing. As for such thing as Obama fostering something called the 'yellow jacket wearing Obama Youth' that is so far out from the truth. Such youth movements are the norm of very extreme right and left wing movements; Obama is neither.

 

America appears often (not always) to be way out of touch with the world view to such a point that one can only stop in gob smacking amazement. Fox News is a perfect example.

 

PS: I am no longer a Marxist so please no flaming and, no, I really do not want to have to defend my old politics of youth.

[Balagor]

The truth can have many faces, and as reasonable beings, we must ask ourselves sometimes "can this be true"?

Media often covers only one side, or one little corner of some news.

 

Take Afghanistan for example.

Are Afghanistan people happy for the presence of our soldiers there?

Yes, will one news media claim, showing the farmerland and soldiers keeping rebelions away.

No, will another news media say, showing crying women and children, injured and killed, after a failed bombing.

Both are the exact truth, but kept apart not the entire truth, and that is what some news media are specialist in, because they are not entirely objective, but one could get the idea that (not all) but some are political influenced.

 

As thinking beings we also carry a responsability, to ask our selves; can this be true, and is this the whole truth, and use our common sense.

Funny enough, when Elvis died, almost nobody believed it. Today almost anybody believe anything.

[hoshi23]

tv is the truth! how can you doubt tv and even fox news at that for one single moment?

blasphemy!

 

anyway concerning afghanistan: a 4 star nato general stated that they need way more funds to build infrastructure over there in order to bring back peace and stability into the region,

but guess what happens? nuts. i dont even have a word for that.

 

no one over there can speak the truth.

 

self responsibility would be a great act indeed cutting clear with all that nonsense,

but hey... this is earth remember? and the news tell you the truth.

 

true nightmare.

 

your desire your being is truth is what you are made up of.

 

one small step into that and the whole world will seem stupid.

 

poeple carry so much.

[Trandoshan]

My, 3 rows of posts and no mention of the man behind the scenes? Rupert Murdoch is the current owner of Faux news, and he is STAUNCH republican. I believe Reagan was the driving force behind Rupert's undying love for republicans. I wonder what would happen to fox if he passed away suddenly. Would the network remain unchanged?

 

Outfoxed: Rupert Murdoch's War on Journalism, is a movie everyone should pick up if they have a chance. There are anonymous phone recordings of fox news journalists who have told the story of the great malfunction of fox that began in the 80s. They know what the truth is before they begin the news cast, but saying it would get them fired and slandered so they would never hold a reporting job again.

 

Since Murdoch is Fox, we should talk about him a little. I also believe that the blokes in Britain know very well who Murdoch is. He owns the BSkyB (British Sky Broadcasting), who used to also be called British Satellite Broadcasting. I believe he owns The Sunday Times, but I can't be sure. Oh, and don't forget 'The Sun' tabloid. I've never read these personally, but according to my sources, they are all owned by Murdoch. Whether they are biased or not, I don't know.

[Kendo 2]

*full-body blocks Trandoshan to silence him*

I'm going to call you what you called me when I had a valid point...Kill-joy. Leave it you to be the oak in a forest of willows. I dread the day you run for public office, BUT if you can stay on the plus side of the moderate left and support sound policies I WILL vote for you.

 

And the gist of Blue Morphos' post didn't state anything that hasn't been reitterated in 90% of the posts already present. It wasn't anything profound, 'Watch the news and decide for yourself'. I've said it along with almost every poster in this thread from the beginning. I'll assume its the messenger and NOT the message. And THAT is the crux of this debate. People listen to who they WANT to listen to, NOT what they are saying.

[hoshi23]

shhh. shh. trandoshan. :biggrin:

 

only one problem this old farts have: internet!

and guys like... normal guys and gals.

[Trandoshan]

*full-body blocks Trandoshan to silence him*

I'm going to call you what you called me when I had a valid point...Kill-joy. Leave it you to be the oak in a forest of willows. I dread the day you run for public office, BUT if you can stay on the plus side of the moderate left and support sound policies I WILL vote for you.

 

And the gist of Blue Morphos' post didn't state anything that hasn't been reitterated in 90% of the posts already present. It wasn't anything profound, 'Watch the news and decide for yourself'. I've said it along with almost every poster in this thread from the beginning. I'll assume its the messenger and NOT the message. And THAT is the crux of this debate. People listen to who they WANT to listen to, NOT what they are saying.

 

I can't run for public office. I just dissed Rupert Murdoch. All of Glen-Beckistan will now assassinate me. My only hope is to throw myself at Obama's feet, and beg for Democratic-ness.