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Heavily Modded Skyrim - SERIOUS FPS ISSUES


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First off, I'd like to tell you my specs;

 

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670k 3.4Ghz

GPU: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Superclocked

RAM: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2x4GB) 1866Mhz

HDD: 1TB Western Digital RE3 7200RPM

RES: 1440x900 @ 60Hz (HP w1907 Monitor)

 

Now, here's a list of my mods (Very extensive)

 

http://i.imgur.com/qqnAJXf.png

http://i.imgur.com/zT5wQm0.png

http://i.imgur.com/UIoChFs.png

http://i.imgur.com/k3xThJc.png

 

I'm using Realvision ENB Option A Full /w Ewi's High ini and prefs file for GTX 660 or better

 

I have made a compatibility patch with all the mods using TES5Edit (Boy did that clean up some conflicts, phew)

I also use SSME and of course SKSE Loader for Skyrim

 

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THE PROBLEM:

 

I drop my frame rates out doors from the usual 60FPS indoors to 20-30 FPS, and it's really irritating.

With my specs I should be getting 50 - 60 constant, but I sadly am not.

My game looks so beautiful, I can't remove the ENB, I love it too much <3

 

I know I can get better FPS, but I need a fix.

 

[YES] I use SweetFX

[YES] I use ENBoost

 

Any other solutions?

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In the same boat as you.

 

Good rig and with that many mods I get 30 in some random places but average 45-60 but even then the 60 doesn't feel smooth. Randomly removing half the mods always improves FPS.

 

It's just a matter of bogging down..too many mods + ENB...it's going to happen on any rig...

 

Using just the mods in STEP + my lighting and ENB stuff, I can run fairly decent but once I add another 100 of my own mods...forget it.

 

 

Did you use the STEP guide or LOOT/BOSS or WB or anything..that surely helps..but mostly that helps with CTD not FPS. Also did you use lots of 2k-4k textures?? Have you used Texture Optimizer or DDSopt?

 

(Looking at your mod list, you have many/most of the same mods I have..I know some like Expanded Cities..it killed my FPS..literally a 15 FPS drop in Riverwood with that mod on... mods are that way..and the more you add the more bogged Skyrim gets. What's funny is using JUST the STEP mods with ENB and lighting mods..and the game still looks great...it's just a matter of...."But I have this great rig I should be able to run all the mods I want" ..but as we can tell that is just not possible)

 

Do you have bogged down feeling? Like 45-55 FPS for me feels real clunky the more mods I have..even 60 FPS doesn't react as quick as it did when I had less mods installed. Hard to explain..

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I recently stopped using ENB and changed to A Natural Custom Settings - FXAA Injector.

After that I now get about 15 more fps most of the time.

I normally get 60fps indoor and about 45fps outdoors now.

With ENB I got about 45-50fps indoors and about 25-35 outdoor.

 

ENB is definitely a big hit..I Just can't play without ENB. I actually use ENB and Injector. The ENB fixes day times from looking oversaturated/contrasted/drab (can't even explain it..it's the Bloom in the ENB that fixes it)

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I recently stopped using ENB and changed to A Natural Custom Settings - FXAA Injector.

After that I now get about 15 more fps most of the time.

I normally get 60fps indoor and about 45fps outdoors now.

With ENB I got about 45-50fps indoors and about 25-35 outdoor.

 

ENB is definitely a big hit..I Just can't play without ENB. I actually use ENB and Injector. The ENB fixes day times from looking oversaturated/contrasted/drab (can't even explain it..it's the Bloom in the ENB that fixes it)

 

 

I was using realvision, and IMO it looks better now, I was also able to turn on Hardware AA and AF. I have AA at 8x and AF at 16x.

 

Gonna bet ...you have gone past your GPU's 2 GB of VRAM....so what you can do is Prove me Wrong!!!

 

Download "Skyrim Performance Monitor"...Run that for 15 mins and post the graph!

 

I know a few people that try to tell me my 660 with 2GB is constantly at the 2GB limit, but it is normally between 900-1500MB used.

I am going to guess that most of the problem is ENB.

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Lowering textures helps a lot. I use Seasons of Skyrim and lowering my textures to 1k and using optimizer textures helped speed up my game dramatically. It doesn't bother me too much because you can only notice the drop in quality of you stare at the floor or right up to a wall. I'm using GTX 660 which is a pretty mid range card as well.

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I recently made some ini tweaks to force multithreading use of my 6 core cpu, I have had great luck with that.

 

Try these tweaks > http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/articles/1153/?

 

Remember to make a back up of your INI and prefs file first! I've had the GTX 660, and while it is a great card, it handles a lot well, but not in massive chunks. If you upgraded to a 670, you'd see huge gains, or even SLI two 660 cards together if your budget allowed.

 

Shadows play off your CPU, so try turning shadow detail down, and in skyrimprefs, you can change the iShadow detail resolution to 1024 and it will save you FPS.

 

There are also nifty mods you can use that remove underwater rocks, and small rocks near shore lines and riversides, that you barely notice anyways, and that saves precious FPS and VRAM that isn't used creating and loading tectures and shadows for those objects.

 

Using the normal skyrim.exe launcher, select options, advanced, then select distant object detail fade. There is no reason to see the texture of a castle several miles away, save the VRAM.

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I recently made some ini tweaks to force multithreading use of my 6 core cpu, I have had great luck with that.

 

Try these tweaks > http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/articles/1153/?

 

Remember to make a back up of your INI and prefs file first! I've had the GTX 660, and while it is a great card, it handles a lot well, but not in massive chunks. If you upgraded to a 670, you'd see huge gains, or even SLI two 660 cards together if your budget allowed.

 

Shadows play off your CPU, so try turning shadow detail down, and in skyrimprefs, you can change the iShadow detail resolution to 1024 and it will save you FPS.

 

There are also nifty mods you can use that remove underwater rocks, and small rocks near shore lines and riversides, that you barely notice anyways, and that saves precious FPS and VRAM that isn't used creating and loading tectures and shadows for those objects.

 

Using the normal skyrim.exe launcher, select options, advanced, then select distant object detail fade. There is no reason to see the texture of a castle several miles away, save the VRAM.

Don't know if you were responding to me but thanks for the tip, I don't know a lot about graphics cards, the card I have came with the machine. I've wanted to upgrade but I'm wondering if it's better to pay for a much better card or to go for one that will be able to handle ENB's and high textures a bit more with a steadier frame rate. If you say 670's worth it I might just go for that though, when I have the money.

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Lowering textures helps a lot. I use Seasons of Skyrim and lowering my textures to 1k and using optimizer textures helped speed up my game dramatically. It doesn't bother me too much because you can only notice the drop in quality of you stare at the floor or right up to a wall. I'm using GTX 660 which is a pretty mid range card as well.

 

I am also using Seasons of Skyrim and have no issues, with it or need to lower the texture resolution.

 

I have extracted a few of the bsa archives not going into why as most say it is not worth doing.

Here are the mods I have installed right now.

 

 

AllRespawnV2-17870-V2.zip

Alpha Werewolf sounds-13779-1-5.rar

Alternate Start - Live Another Life-9557-2-4-0.7z

antinordvampirecheecks.rar

AOS_2_1_Installer-43773-2-1.rar

Apropos_Beta_2014_06_18.1.7z

Auto Unequip Ammo v5_0-10753-5-0.zip

Azura v1.0-55276-v1-0.7zAllRespawnV2

Beautiful Whiterun-12110.zip

Better Vampire Fangs and Glowing Eyes-38829-1-1.zip

Better Vampires 6-6-9717-6-6.zip

BodySlide 2 and Outfit Studio-49015-2-0-0-10.7z

Bow - Running forward v1-2-16975.rar

Brawl Bugs - Compatibility Edition-24020-1-0.7z

BVLT - Full Pack - NMM Installer 2_0_4-25321-2-0-4.rar

Caliente Female Body Mod BBE v3-2-2666-3-2-3.7z

Clothing and Clutter Fixes - LEGENDARY-43053-1-3.zip

Complete Crafting Overhaul-49791-1-5.zip

Dawnguard.zip

Deadly Mutilation V1_3_3 CBBE meshes Pack-34917-1-3-3.7z

Deadly Mutilation V1_3_3 CORE-34917-1-3-3.7z

Deadly Mutilation V1_3_4 Update-34917-1-3-4.7z

Death Alternative - Your Money Or Your Life-45894-4-56.7z

Dibella v1.2-55210-v1-2.7z

Do-It-Yourself Face Sculpting-23795-1-1.7z

Dragon Stalking Fix Dragonborn Edition-54274-.7z

Dragonborn.zip

DYNAVISION Dynamic Depth of Field v 2_2-12525-2-2.rar

Enhanced Camera-55738-0-8b.zip

Female Facial Animation 1_5-35303-1-5.7z

Feminine Running Animation v1-1 BBP-11447-1-1.7z

First Person 1_7-49036-1-7.zip

FNIS Behavior V5_1_1 -- ALWAYS necessary-11811-5-1-1.7z

FNIS Creature Pack 5_1-11811-5-1.7z

FNIS Sexy Move 1.2-54521-1-2.7z

Frostfall 2_5 Release-11163-2-5.7z

Fuz Ro Doh 60-14884-6-0.zip

Guard Dialogue Overhaul-23390-1-4.7z

hdtHighHeel_beta0_5-36213-beta0-5.7z

hdtPhysicsExtensions v14.28.zip

Hearthfire Cheat Chests-25310-1-0.zip

Hearthfires.zip

Immersive Animations - NMM Installer - Complete Pack-34950-V2-1.rar

Immersive HUD v2_4-3222-2-4.rar

Immersive Roads without ENB-40245-1-0.rar

JewelCraft V0_20-1042.rar

La Femme Lycana Female Werewolf Body v2_0-7169-2-0.7z

LFL 2_0 Werewolf Mastery Plus Moonlight Tales Update Compatibility Patch-7169-1.7z

Lost Enchantments v1.1-55590-1-1.zip

Massive Cloud Storage Network - Complete-54285-2-02.rar

Meridia Stratue-55598-v1-0.7z

Meshes.zip

Hearthfire 5_1_HF - MiniMannequins-17710-5-1-HF.rar

Moonlight Tales Main 2_05-35470-2-05.zip

New Animation pack - NMM Installer - v2013-1-8-29622-2013-1-8.7z

NMM Installer-25259-4-4-3.7z

No Falling Damage-9008-.rar

No gravity arrows FAST-686-1-0.rar

No More Glowing Edges-34981-2-0.zip

noboringsleepwaitmenu-12625-1-4.7z

Nocturnal Statue Porphyry-55407-v1-0.7z

Non-Essential Children - Hearthfire-13202-10-0.zip

PCI_MC_1.1a-15703-1-1a.7z

Perk Point Book v2-25607-2-0.7z

Pretty Lips V2-1167-2-0.rar

Proper Aiming 1_1-13652-1-1.rar

PSI_NMM_Installer_132-16248-1-32.7z

Qs Mannequins and More 1_0a-13279-1-0a.7z

RaceMenu v2-7-2-29624-2-7-2.7z

Realistic Force-601-1-9.rar

Realistic Water Two v1_11-41076-1-11.7z

Revamped Exterior Fog-9930-1-0.rar

Riverwood and Whiterun optionals-40245-1-0.rar

RSChildren - 1.1.0 Installer-55555-1-1-0.7z

Ruins_Clutter_Improved_v2-7 NMM Installation-14227-2-7.7z

Serious HD Retexture LANDSCAPE 2048px-2146-v2-0.rar

Sexy Whiterun v3-7059-3-1.zip

Sexy Riften v2-7241-2-0.zip

Sexy Solitude v1-12308-1-0.zip

Sexy Windhelm v2-7178.zip

Sexy Winterhold v2-7484-2-0.zip

SG Textures Renewal CBBE-35267-1-5.7z

SG4KNOSCAR.7z

ShowRaceMenu PreCacheKiller 1_3-33526-1-3.7z

Skill Config 1-2-34307-1-2.7z

SkyFalls and SkyMills FOMOD-BAIN Installer-40564-3-2.rar

Skyrim HD v1_5 FULL - Dungeons-607.7z

Skyrim HD v1_5 FULL - Misc-607.7z

Skyrim HD v1_5 FULL - Towns-607.7z

Skyrim HD v1_6 FULL - Riften-607-1-6.7z

Skyrim UI Silencer Version 1dot3 NMM BAIN And MANUAL Instalation Compatible-15034-1-3.7z

SkyUI_4_1-3863-4-1.7z

SMIM 1-72-8655-1-72.7z

SMIM Update to 1-73 from 1-72-8655-1-73.7z

Smithing Perks Overhaul Remade - Fixed Installer-33959-3-0.zip

Snow Roads optionals-40245-1-0.rar

Soft Pelts-54457-1-0.7z

Springtime for skyrim BSA - NOT AN OPTIONAL DOWNLOAD-27636-1-0.rar

Springtime for Skyrim ESP - the main file-27636-1-0.rar

Talos Statue-55430-v1-0.7z

Tame the Beasts of Skyrim II - Version 1_6 High Resolution-50698-1-6.rar

teleport 4_6_1-8535-4-6-1.zip

Teleport Menu Spell_DLC-14947-v4-0.rar

textures.zip

The Dance of Death 4-0 Beta - Ultimate Edition-10906-4-0.7z

The Reach optionals-40245-1-0.rar

Rift optionals-40245-1-0.rar

TreesHD_Skyrim_variation_ULTRA_NEW-3812-1-6.rar

UDBP.zip

UHP.zip

UHRP.zip

Ultimate HD Fire Effects -Ultra Version--28642-1-9.zip

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch-23491-2-0-4.7z

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch-31083-2-0-4.7z

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch-25127-2-0-4.7z

Unofficial High Resolution Patch-31255-1-1-7.7z

Unofficial Skyrim Patch-19-2-0-4a.7z

Update.zip

USP.zip

VHH walk v1-3b LX - NMM installer-13272-1-3b.7z

VLW_Hybrid_Better_Vampires_6_6_Compatibility_Version-49972-1-1.7z

VoicesExtra.zip

Weapons and Armor Fixes Remade-34093-5-0.zip

Werewolf_Mastery_by_RolandSir_MainFile_v3_0_DG-25392-3-0.rar

Werewolf_Mastery_v3_0_and_Moonlight_Tales_v2_05_Compatibility_version-25392-3-0.rar

WM_and_MT_Compatibility_version_Loot-25392-3-0.rar

WulfharthsDragonboneWeapons-10171-4.rar

Ysgramor 1k-55462-v1-1.7z

XP32 Maximum Skeleton.7z

 

 

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