Richard123 Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 Argh! Please help me! OK, I'm now absolutely sure I've followed all the instructions properly. I'm starting think I'm either nuts, or I'm missing something plain stupidly simple. Before I go any further: My own character is male. I'm trying to get BBB to work for all the female NPC's. As per the instructions, I have downloaded and installed:Coronerras Maximum Compatibility SkeletonsPretty Woman Animation ReplacerHGEC Better Bouncing Boobs Hcup Ecup Dcup (used the DMRA Attempt 2 file)And of course, the all-important original DMRA Stock Replacer mods by Edhildil.I'm also using Colourwheels Sexy Female NPCs. That esp is loaded 2nd-to-last, the very last esp being Specialanims which is part of the Pretty Woman mod. Now, so far as I can tell, I've done everything right. But them boobs ain't bouncin'. I'm starting to think that it just doesn't work for NPC's, that the whole BBB structure is designed only for the Player Character. Someone please help me, before my headache gets any worse... :wallbash: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gracinfields Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 Only works if the clothing is BBB enabled and Colourwheels Sexy Female NPCs doesn't have any armors that are BBB enabled as far as I know. But I also think your missing some of the animations from another Mod. As for Pretty Woman I dunno if it is BBB enabled animations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fore Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 .....Now, so far as I can tell, I've done everything right. But them boobs ain't bouncin'. I'm starting to think that it just doesn't work for NPC's, that the whole BBB structure is designed only for the Player Character. Someone please help me, before my headache gets any worse... :wallbash: It works well for NPCs, just takes little more effort. First you need BBBed meshes, as Graceinfields ponited out, and that's what this thread is all about. I recommend BBB for EVE HGEC stock replacer and it's base mod, because it will automatically BBB dress many NPCs. And don't forget ArchiveInvalidation. Then you should already see some bouncing walks. If you want more BBBed NPC "action" you should use my mods. NoMaaM BBB Animation Replacer is the only (known) mod which has BBBed combat animations (1hand, 2hand, hand2hand). To easily watch them on female NPCs you can use NoMaaM BBB Animation Theatre, which has several options like a "BBB nude spell" or a "BBB all". :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard123 Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 I knew I'd forgotten a detail when I wrote that post. -sigh- You'd think I'd have learned by now not to do work at two in the morning. Twerp... I have also downloaded and installed:[list[*]BBB for DMRA armor stock and KOTN[*]BBB for DMRA clothing stock[*]BBB for DMRA NON-Skimpy robes stock[*]BBB for DMRA Shivering Stock COMPLETESo, yes, I have BBB compatible clothing meshes. @fore, what's ArchiveInvalidation? :confused: And thank-you for the animation replacers, I'll try them when I get home. Off for now to an interview. Thanks for the help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard123 Posted March 19, 2011 Share Posted March 19, 2011 OK, limited success. ArchiveInvalidation (IF I'm understanding the literature correctly) is a problem with replacement textures not loading.I've gone with BSA-redirection fix for this problem. The simplest option appeared to be adding another BSA file at the beginning of the SArchiveList entry in the INI, so that's what I did. bgMagicEV.bsa, just to mention it.This particular glitch I don't think should be affecting me, as it appears my problem is with the animations themselves. fore, I want to thank you again for directing me to the animation replacers. Now, when a female NPC is just standing around (Idle.kf?), her breasts will bounce. But walking is producing nada. So, some anims are working, but not others. Which doesn't make any sense, as I simply copied the entire directory from your replacer over... Yes, I've made sure I have the recommended underlying mods installed: Coronerras skeleton, BBB body mesh, and BBB-compatible clothing & armour meshes. Thanks in advance.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fore Posted March 19, 2011 Share Posted March 19, 2011 Richard, ArchiveInvalidation is for skeleton, meshes, and textures. I don't know if BBB ever works without AInv. And for me it only works with AInv -> BSA Invalidation, but maybe thats because I always use reduced BSAs for testing purpuses. But if you see the idle bounce, BBB is working. Although some people don't like the "invisible boob man", it sure helps to easy find out ;) So we have to see why walking doesn't work. My first guess is that you use Sensual Walks as well. They use completely different walks. If not, we should continue in the NoMaaM BBB Animation thread, or you can send me a pm (which version? which BMF, if you use V2?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sorceress99 Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 Okay, do I understand that you can make the game's NPC have BBB? I have use NoMaam animations which do add an idle anime with BBB but does not add it to their walk. I use Edhildil's skimpy stock armor/clothing mods and my NPC do have the DMRA body model but do not have BBB even though Edhildil's mods are BBB converted. Pretty Woman is a good walk anime, being smooth and fluid and BBB worksd great. I use Natural Woman for my run animes and it too has nice BBB action. I have an ArchiveInvalidation file, so what do I need to put in it to make the NPC's have BBB and use the Pretty Woman's walk animes? I use Vipcxj's skeleton because of the mods requiring the high heel sys. If you use the Coronerra, Growl, Deeds, etc. skeletons with his sys, it can cause conflicts. It works well with BBB too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard123 Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 OK, thank-you for the direction fore, I've found the problem. It's the walk anim I'm using. :wallbash: I've been using Colourwheels sexy walk, from here, and I'm quite fond of it :cool:. I see that several NPC walk options have been included with your NoMaaM mod, but the readme says they need to be modded, and so of course they don't work (yet?). Failing that, how hard would it be to modify Mur_zik's walk anim (that's what Colourwheel used) to include BBB? Thanks fore!ps: can you reply with the link for the NoMaam BBB Animation thread...? Thanks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fore Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 @Sorceress, Richard: BBB is more than BBBed idles and walks. NoMaaM BBB Animation Replacer has about 150 animations, most all of them either combat or unsheathed weapon. So if you fight a girl and she is dressed with something from one of the BBBed robe stocks, like BBB for DMRA Skimpy Robes Stock, you will automatically see a BBBed NPC in action. However, NoMaaM is only an adaptation of standard animations, which works for males and females. If you want special BBBed walks for females ONLY (e.g Umpa's sexywalk) its more complicated ("need modding"). If you want to add it to the player or a companion, you can open your favorite companion mod with CS, and add this walk in the NPC's animation tab. If you want to use it for ALL (vanilla) NPCs it's really difficult, since Oblivion didn't offer easy ways to seperate animations by gender. You need to use a mod like Sensual Walk or Colourwheels sexy walk, which change every vanilla NPC in the game, or NoMaaM BBB Animation Theatre, which does it dynamically to all females a player meets. Hope, that helps understand. @Richard: see my signature for links. And about Mur_zik's walks: I had long BBBed his walks, but unfortunately he refuses them to be modified. But I think Sensual Walks now also includes Beni's nice walks, and they have BBB. I think Sensual Walk does all what Colourwheels sexy walk does, and some more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcheNone Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 Not really a request for a conversion but a whole new armor. I saw you made Soul Calibur ones, can you make a Taki red one based off of Soul Calibur IV? with BBB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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