Pob Posted September 24, 2003 Share Posted September 24, 2003 With the latest version of the GCSE English the spelling/grammer is irrelevant as long as the meaning is clear. (For those in the US and other places GCSE is done at 16) This is a sentiment I carry on to the forum, spelling/grammer is unimportant as long as the meaning is clear. A good rule of thumb - if you read your own post and can't/have trouble understanding what you have written so will everyone else. IRL (In real life) it may matter more and you should get someone else to check work etc anyway, but here it is less important If you think your spelling/grammer is poor check you posts firsts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thanateros Posted September 25, 2003 Share Posted September 25, 2003 I think it's just a general courtesy to the people who are reading something you write to use the best grammar and spelling you can. Certainly I recognize that there are people who don't read/write natively in English and am rather impressed by the efforts of those who can communicate affectively. Not everyone can avoid those typos that seem to slip in every-so-often, but the one thing that bugs me the most is when people don't use capital letter at the beginning of sentences. It's almost as if we've become too reliant on word processing to do the basic grammar for us. Admittedly, when I write emails to my friends I rarely use capital letters, but when addressing a professor or someone I don't know that well I make it a point to use correct grammar. Like others I'm not going to call you out for using bad grammar, but if people can't understand the message you are trying to convey, the most basic purpose of communication, then what's the point in even trying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rynos Posted September 25, 2003 Share Posted September 25, 2003 Mike13 wrote-i have read wat i got in teh tribunal box its very small and really dosn't tell me much! Should i have gotten something else?? it would be great if u just told me but ur probaly wicked busy soo........but if ur not could u tell me should i call and ask for a guid book and have it sent or.................... o well i will get trying if u have any info send it to me ASAP at [email protected] Thanx Mike13 wrote-sorry i tried google but i couldn't find anything ill try ur site, thanx if u know any thing else please tell me! thanx Mike13 wrote-hey thaxi hate having to type all the words w/e thax for teh advice but do u know were i can get a pack animal? Mike13 wrote-ps wat is there to do in mournhold i am board arleady and do u have bloodmoond and if soo is it any good?? thax sry i am new at this ( i post like 10000000000000000000 things a day) Mike13 wrote-hey pale way don't u s**k a *** one! You don't u get a ****** life all u do is ****** play morrowind u loser! so shut the **** up before i ******* kill u!! Mike13 wrote-hey ****** Rynos i am talking to u S**K A *** ONE! ---I am just showing how much bad grammer is annoying. I dont mind the "u" for you and "r" for are... But this is rediculos... P.S.- I REALLY HATE THIS GUY http://www.click-smilie.de/sammlung0903/sauer/angry-smiley-030.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiseasedPunk Posted September 25, 2003 Share Posted September 25, 2003 <sarcasm>Spelling totally effects the way I view a person!</sarcasm> Quite honestly...who really cares. You don't need perfect spelling to properly communicate or get the point across. Personaly, it doesn't make me feel any different towards a person either. So seriously, what is the big deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peregrine Posted September 25, 2003 Share Posted September 25, 2003 Its not the occasional mistake that's a problem (something like a misspelled word or lost period), but the people like mike13 whose grammar is approaching unreadable. The ones who are either too lazy to take the few seconds to use correct english or the ones who think stuff like "u" and "teh" make them look good. There's a big difference between:"I'm makng a mod and I'd like people to hep me"and"WE R mAK1nG tEH 1337 h0use mod :lol: ;) loLOLOLOl!!!!1!!11!. u r teh g1VE me heLp. kthxbye."One is a simple mistake that anyone could let slip through, but there is NO excuse for something like the second. Especially when you're asking for help from people. It does affect the way I view someone if they show so little concern for proper english. If they don't even believe what they are saying is worth the extra effort to type correctly, then why should I? I mean, how much extra time does it take to type the extra two letters difference between "u" and "you"? Oh, and for those of you who try to justify it as english not being your primary language, don't bother. Its pretty obvious if you make a translation mistake between english and french, as opposed to simply not caring enough to try. You're not fooling anyone. And the same is true for people with spelling problems. I can understand a few misspelled words, but anyone who can't spell "you" seriously needs help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiseasedPunk Posted September 25, 2003 Share Posted September 25, 2003 I can understand a few misspelled words, but anyone who can't spell "you" seriously needs help. So cold :( There are actually people like that out there and im sure they wouldn't appreciate that. Be a little more forgiving! Although, yeah i can understand how "l33t sp34k" can be annoying, but people with personal problems...c'mon picking on them is just sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peregrine Posted September 25, 2003 Share Posted September 25, 2003 Perhaps I didn't make this clear enough. My objection is not to anyone who honestly has trouble with spelling. I was refering to the people who use poor grammar/whatever and then lie, saying its "because my first language isn't english" or something like that. Yes, I've seen people type in 1337ish and then say exactly that when people object. And seriously, people who have trouble spelling simple stuff like that are a tiny minority. The overwhelming majority of people who use stuff like "u" and "teh are people who are either too lazy to type the whole word, or people who think it looks "cool". If you truly have so much trouble spelling that even a quick check before posting can't stop the mistakes, then I can understand if you don't write perfectly. But, if you're just too lazy (again, 99% of the people), you get exactly zero sympathy from me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Switch Posted September 25, 2003 Share Posted September 25, 2003 Perhaps I didn't make this clear enough. My objection is not to anyone who honestly has trouble with spelling. I was refering to the people who use poor grammar/whatever and then lie, saying its "because my first language isn't english" or something like that. Yes, I've seen people type in 1337ish and then say exactly that when people object. And seriously, people who have trouble spelling simple stuff like that are a tiny minority. The overwhelming majority of people who use stuff like "u" and "teh are people who are either too lazy to type the whole word, or people who think it looks "cool". If you truly have so much trouble spelling that even a quick check before posting can't stop the mistakes, then I can understand if you don't write perfectly. But, if you're just too lazy (again, 99% of the people), you get exactly zero sympathy from me. *bursts into tears* ur so hurtful peregrine! :P starting to think i should use proper grammar since everyone seems 2 have such strong views on it. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pob Posted September 25, 2003 Share Posted September 25, 2003 I was refering to the people who use poor grammar/whatever and then lie, saying its "because my first language isn't english" or something like that. It is perhaps interesting to note that people often speak/write in a forgien langauge how they would in there own, so words may be in a different order. Therefore there meaning is normally clear and it is obvious that they are not native English speakers. It is also worth mentioning that in most countires lanaguage teaching is good and the qaulity of English (from non English speakers) in this forum is generally good, and would put some native speakers to shame. I think the problem referred to here is more about understanding (or ease of understanding) what someone has written. I noted the earlier Mike13 qoutes I found harder to read and while the meaning was clear, I had to read them slowly to get the understanding which could be frustrating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darmoth Posted September 26, 2003 Share Posted September 26, 2003 *bursts into tears* ur so hurtful peregrine! :P starting to think i should use proper grammar since everyone seems 2 have such strong views on it. :rolleyes: Well... to be truthful man, it's a little hard to take everything you say seriously when you use things like '2' for 'to' or 'ur' for 'your'... Not a slam against you man, just adding my two cents(Or other denomination of monitary value, used in your native country.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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