Killing Mr House option way too radical?

[cerebus23]

also the H&H tools factory the hidden computer logs shows that, i believe it is house, was bat crap insane at some point.

 

Actually, the computer entries at the factory were written by Anthony House, his brother.

 

ahh ok thanks i was wondering.

[gsmanners]

But the BOS would not want to take over and rule anyone that is not in their mindset.

 

I'm inclined to agree with this, which is why it's a little surprising that House and NCR want them destroyed. House, in particular, strikes me as a very calculating and methodical person. For him to miscalculate the Brotherhood's significance is a serious error on his part, and that just proves to my mind how unfit he is to be a good leader. This adds weight to the threat he poses when he insists that you carry out the BoS's unprovoked slaughter, and should give you pause when you consider that he could be in a position to rule the wasteland. Killing Mr. House is, to my mind, an act of self-defense on behalf of the people of the wasteland for this reason.

[cerebus23]

well house did not want them around because of his army of super robots, plus house did not have a clue how bad off they were since he had limited intel on anything outside of vegas, i actually balked when he told me to destroy them and said i did not want to do it, and his reply was pretty much that they would not sit still while he had an army of robots and wanted them out of the picture entirely while they were weak.

 

tho you really do not get the impression they could get any reinforcements else why would they have not sent for help already.

 

but house seemed to be of the mindset better safe than sorry and kick em while they are down. probably because without his army he would be totally boned. and he still would have had to defend the dam and vegas so his army like the ncr would have been spread thin for any prolonged scuffle.

 

plus he chides you for buying into their "religious" mumbo jumbo, house was all about technology and to his outlook they were fanatics that were anti technology, which is not too far off the mark to be fair.

 

still i would not agree with his decision to slaughter them all, especially since house really did not have any global domination with his robot army thing going on, only thing he really wanted to dominate was the money flow.

[graymaybe]

I didn't like it when he told me to take out the Brotherhood of Steel, but I do get it. Say they had contacted some larger group, like the Brotherhood of the east coast, down the line. Here he is, making all of this great technology come back to life (his plans for the future include bringing humans to space within a hundred years, along with many other advancements I assume). I think the Brotherhood would absolutely object and try to seize it themselves, killing off that little group which would contact a larger encampment buys him time. They'd still find out, eventually, and the Brotherhood of Steel in full force would be a formidable opponent with all of their knowledge of technology. He needs all the prep time he can get.

[feedmegnomes]

Yeah I didnt like how he wanted me to kill off the BoS too. Even further down the line when I could tell him id convinced them to fight for the NCR, and with Veronica slowly gnawing away at him, forcing him down the eldar Lyons route, he still told me he wanted them killed.

 

Didnt really like the ending overall though, because it didnt let me do what I'd of liked, kill house, install yesman, destroy ceasars legion with BoS, make nevada a safer place with this kickass robot army + NCR + BoS.

[Gapho]

^ you get that speech just by talking to him.

 

also the H&H tools factory the hidden computer logs shows that, i believe it is house, was bat crap insane at some point.

 

also if you talk to cowgirl ghoul she knew of house before and after the great war, and when he came back he slaughtered a ton of people. anyone that would not side with him got obliterated.

 

also freeside being on his doorstep he could do a hell of a lot more to help that place out considering he can spend 800,000+ caps looking for that chip.

 

granted he made a pretty safe zone and some of the factions he united are not too bad, others are just utter slime. considering they were all tribals tho i guess you got to give him some points for domesticating them to some degree.

 

he does not want the rest of the world to burn tho it would hurt his bottom line. he wanted the NCR there so he could take their caps he did not necessarily want them gone for good as in dead, why he tasks you to save their president at the dam. but the rest of the world that had no caps to take, well they could all burn.

 

house is a bit short sighted if he helped renovate the whole of the desert and got trade routes protected etc, it would improve the lot of the people, with his new army and with the help of some of the factions he could have done a lot to make the roads safer and control the more evil gangs. then put his grand plan into practice with only a few years delay.

 

i dunno if that bit is bugged, if you take him offline it opens the thing which supposedly will kill him anyway, seems you should have been able to disconnect him wo popping his bubble thing. to have him around to advise on his renovation projects. otherwise you might as well put a bullet in his brain else he will just die of illness given time.

 

but the whole BoS thing i hardly see how the brotherhood is much of a threat, there are not that many of them, and their ranks are closed so it is not like they are gaining any new followers and they have no super robot of eternal patriotic duty to obliterate his robot army. They do mention that they want to investigate his robots but none of them seem inclined to start a war over them. Nor do i think they would have a shot in hell of getting into vegas if you locked the place down.

 

comparing him to the ncr they are alike in a lot of ways, both want power ncr seems a tad more inclined to help the common people as long as there is a percentage in it for them or something to gain as in power water food etc. but then the vast majority of people in the desert do not want the ncr there and the other ones that kinda do think the ncr is too spread thin to actually do much good.

 

house will let people live the way they want to live, within reason. if you join the ncr you play by their rules and laws and there is no debate.

 

any of the factions are rather whats in it for me, tho. the NCR probably would never have been in vegas but for the dam and then for the potential cash cow that was the vegas strip. so none of the parties have any particularly lofty goals they are aspiring to.

 

dumby in the long term he will save the world because of the information on that chip which if he didnt have he would enevatbly lose all of the Mojave to the legion and the world would be ceasars *censored*, NCR is not a good faction since they arnt devoted to anything just gambling according to their troops and free side could burn regardless, EXCEPT for my beloved Silver Rush... save that. anyway the girl cow ghoul is more batshit insane then house himself

[Gapho]

well house did not want them around because of his army of super robots, plus house did not have a clue how bad off they were since he had limited intel on anything outside of vegas, i actually balked when he told me to destroy them and said i did not want to do it, and his reply was pretty much that they would not sit still while he had an army of robots and wanted them out of the picture entirely while they were weak.

 

tho you really do not get the impression they could get any reinforcements else why would they have not sent for help already.

 

but house seemed to be of the mindset better safe than sorry and kick em while they are down. probably because without his army he would be totally boned. and he still would have had to defend the dam and vegas so his army like the ncr would have been spread thin for any prolonged scuffle.

 

plus he chides you for buying into their "religious" mumbo jumbo, house was all about technology and to his outlook they were fanatics that were anti technology, which is not too far off the mark to be fair.

 

still i would not agree with his decision to slaughter them all, especially since house really did not have any global domination with his robot army thing going on, only thing he really wanted to dominate was the money flow.

 

he didnt want to rule the world just rise it from the slumps. if you look into the long term effects of the bos being stronger then house they care less even more then house.. they just want that technology for what? too look at? no to rule the world and take what they please. except for the east coast bos they were mostly exiled because they did not see eye to eye with the west coast, west coast wanting the tech for a evil reason. all and all no one is good.

[cerebus23]

all that information on the chip was to upgrade his weapons lest that is all we know about and thanks for calling me dumb. you can side with house but if house cared at all about people he would have helped some of the outer settlements and certainly done more to cleanup freeside. he had enough money to probably feed the entire desert.

[Gapho]

all that information on the chip was to upgrade his weapons lest that is all we know about and thanks for calling me dumb. you can side with house but if house cared at all about people he would have helped some of the outer settlements and certainly done more to cleanup freeside. he had enough money to probably feed the entire desert.

 

upgrade his weapons to destroy all the anti-human organisations like the legion to spread over the mojave to put every thing under his rule, yes, but to then raise every one up with him so that even freeside would be as great as the strip beside why waste 800,000 caps on freeside? when if you had 800,000 you could fix up the entire waste land not just a small town that would eventually put all those caps into thier arms.

[Gapho]

all that information on the chip was to upgrade his weapons lest that is all we know about and thanks for calling me dumb. you can side with house but if house cared at all about people he would have helped some of the outer settlements and certainly done more to cleanup freeside. he had enough money to probably feed the entire desert.

 

plus you will learn a lot more about him if you help him or if you like bashing elderly people read his obtituary