Why are people using the d3d9 fix when they have no idea what it actua

[NuclearDestination]

This fix is degrading your image quality and is going to cause all sorts of long term problems, the following is taken from the EXTREMELY reputable video game tweaking website www.tweakguides.com which is the site that has the fallout 3/new vegas ini tweaking guides

 

 

"I've been receiving a lot of emails about this, so I thought it important to finally speak out about it. An unofficial 'fix' to performance issues in Fallout: New Vegas has been doing the rounds for the past week as some sort of global solution to all problems. I do not recommend this D3D9 Fix at all, as it causes Fallout: New Vegas to falsely redetect your graphics card as a lower model, and in turn use a lower shader package. It can reduce image quality and cause a range of long-term problems. A much better solution is to use the ToggleEmotions (temo) console command in each Fallout: New Vegas session to temporarily disable facial emotions on NPCs, thereby removing the major source of the slowdowns which may occur in areas where there are several characters. This method will not reduce your image quality or cause other potential problems. This is also a good time to remind everyone that PC gaming does not involve any quick fixes. If you're having performance issues in Fallout: New Vegas or any other game, the correct solution inevitably involves properly optimizing and maintaining your entire PC, along with research and intelligent tweaking of the game, not just grasping at the first quick fix that happens to come along. Additionally, official patches and driver updates resolve many of the legitimate problems, so some patience is also involved."

 

And today there was a second update on the issue

"I notice there's been some drama over my recent recommendation not to use the popular 'D3D9 Fix' for Fallout: New Vegas, and this bears some clarification. Firstly, apparently a newer version of the fix is available which only disables facial emotions instead of also altering the shader package used by some cards. While this is certainly an improvement, I still recommend using the ToggleEmotions (temo) console command, as this is a much cleaner temporary solution which addresses the same issue but also guarantees that no other changes are made. As for the long-term problems of using the DLL fix, the primary one is that of potential conflicts with future game patches. I'm certain that Fallout: New Vegas will be patched to fix this performance issue caused by the facial generation system, along with other bugs. However since it is a Steam-only game, patches are deployed automatically and without prior warning. For more advanced users this may not be a major concern, but I believe it to be undesirable for the average user to blindly follow the constant prompting to install this fix."

 

More importantly, why is Nexus allowing these files to be downloaded without these problems first being explained to the person downloading? There should be a disclaimer clearly outlining what this thing does to your game. I realize there is now the file with only the temo command and none of the graphics card false detecing and such but I am not talking about that, I am talking about the d3d9 fix.

 

It is quite feasible that when Bethesda/Obsidian actually updates the game and fixes these issues that Steam will update your Fallout: NV before you even realize and then you will be stuck with broken, incorrupt files that will cause soooo many problems for you, probably forcing you to reinstall everything/mess around with all sorts of stuff to get your game/saves working again.

 

I highly recommend against this "quick fix" for the problems outlined above along with other suspected problems it could cause.

 

To see the updates on the actual tweakguides website please go to www.tweakguides.com

 

Just a warning, happy days and stay safe out in the wasteland! EDIT: Oh look Nexus cut off my topic title yet again. Nice.

[ciikada]

if you use the right one for your card it will be fine. there is a huge thread on this on the official forums,

http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/1133441-do-not-use-the-so-called-d3d9dll-fix/

[NuclearDestination]

if you use the right one for your card it will be fine. there is a huge thread on this on the official forums,

http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/1133441-do-not-use-the-so-called-d3d9dll-fix/

 

That topic is mainly about how it may or may not cause visual quality degradation

 

It doesn't go over about how once Bethesda/Obsidian update the game and mix their new files with this fix what it will do to your game. That is what you guys should be worried about. It is going to corrupt/invalidate all sorts of things and most likely cause you to reinstall

 

Oh and P.S, I tested the fix (Using the correct one for my ATI graphics card) and did a screenshot comparison test, I did see visual degradation (Even if it was really minor, it was still there). I also noticed with certain buildings that they would become "blocks" as in they have tiny lines seperating the entire house into blocks but you can only see this from a fair distance away. It's not very noticeable at all but it IS caused by this fix.

 

I think you will find it degrades visual quality for almost everybody but when people see this awesome fix and all the downloads and endorsments it has and the magical increase on performance it seems to have, they seem to look past the slight visual degradation and not notice it. I'm sure if those people did screen comparisons they would find slight visual degradation, it's just everyone is so hyped up about this so called "must have fix" that they are looking past all issues it introduces.

 

The d3d9 file included with "Enhanced Shaders HD" has given me a signifigant performance boost without degrading visual quality at all (In fact the mod improves it) and has almost completely stopped stuttering.

 

That d3d9 file also does not do the "cheap tricks" that the other one in question does. It does not trick the game into thinking your graphics card is something it isn't, it doesn't do any of that yet it gives a solid performance boost. Unfortunately I can't tell you what it does do either but I have had confirmation that it does none of the potentially damaging quick fixes included in the other d3d9 fix

 

I highly recommend it over the other d3d9 fix in question.

[vashts1985]

so where is this file that just disables facial expressions? im not gonna use the console until im 100% sure its not gonna funk with my achievments

[JimboUK]

so where is this file that just disables facial expressions? im not gonna use the console until im 100% sure its not gonna funk with my achievments

 

I use the console regularly and my achievements are still working, got one for finishing the game last night. Proof? check the date of my last achievement on Steam (same user name as here) and the dates of some of the HUDless screens I've upped to image share.

[McclaudEagle]

I would rather suffer a tiny, almost unnoticeable drop in graphics than to have to constantly use the console commands. Although it's from a trusted site, they haven't mentioned what those long term problems are, and so I don't really trust what they are saying.

[Khet]

The long term problems he mentions are most likely in the way of conflicts with future patches.

 

 

Hillariously enough, ToggleEmotions didn't do anything for me. It didn't work. The D3D9 worked, even allowed me to crank the settings up to Ultra without a single stutter.

 

Sure, it degrades quality a bit, but the long term problems that are mentioned isn't "Causes your computer to burst into flame" instead it's simply "If you're too stupid to be able to delete the file when Obsidian release a fix, don't use it"

 

 

Edit: And if I have to re-install for whatever reason when Bethesda/Obsidian finally get around to fixing it themselves, so what? I can't say how many times I've reinstalled Fallout and Oblivion through the course of the years. So many times, that I really don't care if I need to do it again.

 

What I want to know, is why do you have such a problem with it?

[Scatterspell]

DOOM DOOM DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!

 

*stops, looks around*

 

Oh wait, it's a simple fix if it does cause problems later on.

 

NONISSUE NONISSUE NONISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSUUUUUUUEE!!!!

[frostmute]

DOOM DOOM DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!

 

*stops, looks around*

 

Oh wait, it's a simple fix if it does cause problems later on.

 

NONISSUE NONISSUE NONISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSUUUUUUUEE!!!!

 

 

Yea, I'm going to have to agree....

 

When they actually get around to fixing THEIR screw-up, all we'll have to do is remove the file.... =\

 

What is the big deal?

 

The funniest part is that it IS THE MAGICAL FIX THAT IT IS BEING ADVERTISED AS. Not using this fix is just RETARDED.

[InquisitorChaotic]

I don't see why all of you are bitching.

 

My laptop had a fairly large amount of lag before I installed this. I found this file that said it would fix my performance, and I went from minimum sight range with lag, to half full bars of sight range with no lag.

 

It did exactly what it said it would, and then some. The fact it messed with graphics doesn't even phase me. The only time I care about graphics is when it starts looking like it's 8-bit.