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anonownsyou Apprentice

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In response to post #24616159. #24616314, #24616399, #24616454, #24616704, #24616799, #24616909, #24617019, #24617144, #24617304, #24617354, #24617394, #24617519, #24618004, #24618149, #24618159, #24618169 are all replies on the same post.


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As I said, everyone deserves a pat on the back and some beef jerky for their effort. You guys deserve 75% of your beef jerky though, not no sad 25%

Best of luck in this, I admire your optimism regarding this pushing towards quality rather than quantity, and I surely hope you're right.
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TheEyelessWanderer Rookie

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In response to post #24616159. #24616314, #24616399, #24616454, #24616704, #24616799, #24616909, #24617019, #24617144, #24617304, #24617354, #24617394, #24617519, #24618004, #24618149, #24618159, #24618169, #24618264 are all replies on the same post.


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I'm going to take care to specifically not purchase, download, endorse, or promote anything you create.

(I suggest everyone else takes the same course of action. This individual followed the gold scent. We all know where it inevitably leads.)
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Thankfully my outrage only extends to unendorsing and uninstalling mods from creators whom I dislike that have taken part in this. I don't support the idea of 'paid mods' being forced behind a pay wall. I have the money to donate, but I won't be forced to pay for something that'll probably be broken.
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Hummm beth release a game modders make it playable and give it longevity. Then valve and beth come up with the idea that mods should be charged for and they get a 75% cut. That is a total rip off and modders agreeing to this are being taken for a ride. Thinking about that if any modders want to do some work that I have no input into and give me £75 out of every £100 that you make and give me all the rights to your work that would be very nice thank you.
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In response to post #24616159. #24616314, #24616399, #24616454, #24616704, #24616799, #24616909, #24617019, #24617144, #24617304, #24617354, #24617394, #24617519, #24618004, #24618149, #24618159, #24618169, #24618264, #24618289 are all replies on the same post.


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This is what I was afraid of happening. It not like I don't think modders deserve any compensation, or that they can't value their work financially. It's the transformation, the necessary consideration of it that every modder will now have and how that makes them a different kind of artist and a completely different member of a now fractured mod community. Before now I'd never heard nor thought of a modder 'in it for the money', that any of their mods were being advertised like product; it was always just something they made that would improve the game and the community was reciprocative in those efforts. Now those same modders will filling their own artistic visions of their mods with thought about how much they deserve for it, something they never had to, or wanted to do while they were lovingly making mods for fun/enjoyment/challenge etc.

Everything was fine until now. Mods that were made, were made. Mods that weren't made, weren't. The community doesn't 'need' to give back, because they were never taking - modders were only ever giving, in a community of only ever giving.
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If you think people are screaming now, wait until Steam DRM forces mods to be Steam-exclusive. Look at the big picture; this isn't only about money (although Steam and Bethesda certainly won't mind getting more of the stuff), this is about control. Skyrim and the Steam Workshop brought modding into the limelight. Evidence: The flap over the Killable Children mod that made it into the mainstream media. The last few years have been the golden age of modding, and it will never be the same after this. Even if Steam reverses this - and it would have to be soon or it'll be too late anyway - the fallout will affect modding from now on. The only chance we have to avoid the above scenario (or at least delay it) is to make enough noise to get this stopped. Again, look at the big picture.

 

I personally don't blame Steam, they're doing what content providers do.

 

I don't blame modders, heck who wouldn't want to make some money on the side? I *am* disappointed in modders that are willing to give any rights they may have had here and give complete control of their hard work to Steam and Bethesda for a measly %25. Technically, according to Bethesda's EULA, all mods created with the CK are their property anyway. At least here on the Nexus every effort is made to respect the author's wishes.

 

I put the responsibility directly on Bethesda for this. It's shameful and ultimately a slap in the face to modders and their hard work.

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While I find your viewpoint refreshing and provocative, I cannot help but point out that the way IP law works these days does not foster an air of sportsmanlike competition. Let someone prove to be a competitor to valve/bethsoft et al. The lawyers will come with DMCA claims, and sites will die.

If we keep modding a hobby, free, we are legally untouchable within certain boundaries; if we take Valve's silver, we invite a violent change to that status. Some chose to do that, for their own reasons, and I fear that by doing so, we've let the vampires in. I'm going to wait to see what comes of this change in paradigms before I publish a damn thing, that's for certain.
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In response to post #24616159. #24616314, #24616399, #24616454, #24616704, #24616799, #24616909, #24617019, #24617144, #24617304, #24617354, #24617394, #24617519, #24618004, #24618149, #24618159, #24618169, #24618264, #24618289, #24618509, #24618634 are all replies on the same post.


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Hi phenderix,
My native language/mother tongue is german and because of this fact my choosen game language is german. You say you will release the new Version of your mod only via Steam Workshop and Paid Content. Now one simple question to you: Will your mod being available as a multi-lingual version on the Workshoip? If not, then why the hell should a german, italian, french.... customer pay for it? I can understand that you have putted a lot of work in your creations, but going behind the pay wall should inlcude that you provide the same service as Bethesda did when they released Skyrim and the DLC's. If this is not a legitimate concern for you, then everything you said about your decision is only a lie. Then you care only about the money and nothing more Edited by WileCoyote68
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