StanIsTheLaw Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 Hi, newbie. Couple of quick questions please.1) I seem to be stuck in a loop with the main quest. I have taken the book to Martin and am looking for spies in Jeral's house, but everytime I go there it is empty. Picked the lock to the basement and it is also empty. I reloaded games to go there as quickly as possible after dropping the book of but it is the same, no spies, no plans. Went as far as Anvil on quests and came back, still nothing. Have I missed something please?2) I also got the Knights of 9 and Shivering Isles discs, but the expansions do not open, no shortcuts etc. Do I have to finish the main quest or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandsOfTime404 Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 I'm left to assume you've modded your game, in which case it'd be beneficial to the community as a whole if we could see a list of your mods and their load order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanIsTheLaw Posted December 24, 2010 Author Share Posted December 24, 2010 I'm left to assume you've modded your game, in which case it'd be beneficial to the community as a whole if we could see a list of your mods and their load order.Sorry no, I have not, straight off the disc and the patch loaded, nothing else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fonger Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 1 - did you make the mistake of installing the game to the default locationthereby empowering UAC to make your life miserable 2 - the spies appear only at certain times of the day 3 - did you install the KOTN/SI disk?If nothing happened with the disktry a trick that can sometimes workcopy the entire contents of the disk to your hard drivethen install from there. otherwise if you didn't install the diskthe contents will obviously not be in your game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanIsTheLaw Posted December 25, 2010 Author Share Posted December 25, 2010 Thanks, 1) where should have I installed the original game other than the default location? Whats UAC?2) thanks, will keep checking then.3) there are bsa and esp files for Kof9 and SI expansions in the oblivion data folder after installation from that disk, but no shortcut or way to launch, no exe file with their name etc. No reference to either when I fire up Oblivion. Many thanks:-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFact Posted December 25, 2010 Share Posted December 25, 2010 (edited) You have to activate KoTN plugin, like any other mod.(Note: DLCShiveringIsles.esp is dummy plugin for loading SI resources. All NPC, quest, and any other records are integrated into Oblivion.esm. So the SI quest will be on your journal even if it's not activated, though you will see tons of yellow !s because of missing meshes) Edited December 25, 2010 by LFact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanIsTheLaw Posted January 6, 2011 Author Share Posted January 6, 2011 Still can't finish the main quest :-((((((((((((((((((((((((((( It is now running from my E drive, I started again with KOTN and SI activated, initially just through data in the opening menu, now through OBMM. I tried it with and without SI and KOTN activated through OBMM, same every time. Get to Jearl's house and there is nothing. Been through the cave/basement, walked right round to the northern gate, took my horse for a ride along the south road and back around, nothing. Sat in Jearl's house from dusk to dawn, nothing, in 2 games and many resumptions from save have been to Jearl's house 50+ times. Emailed Bethesda support, NOTHING!!!!!!! Can anyone help please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowfen Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Still can't finish the main quest :-((((((((((((((((((((((((((( It is now running from my E drive, I started again with KOTN and SI activated, initially just through data in the opening menu, now through OBMM. I tried it with and without SI and KOTN activated through OBMM, same every time. Get to Jearl's house and there is nothing. Been through the cave/basement, walked right round to the northern gate, took my horse for a ride along the south road and back around, nothing. Sat in Jearl's house from dusk to dawn, nothing, in 2 games and many resumptions from save have been to Jearl's house 50+ times. Emailed Bethesda support, NOTHING!!!!!!! Can anyone help please? Here is the page about Jearl (and her schedule) at UESPWiki. As she's very busy during the night, Jearl sleeps late and gets out of bed no earlier than 12pm. She spends the next two hours inside the house, talking with her partner-in-crime Saveri, until sitting down at the dinner table to take her lunch at 2pm. At 4pm, she exits the house, crosses through Bruma and heads for the Hestra Rune Stone southeast of the temple. She arrives around 5pm and then waits her for partner to show up. When Saveri appears around 8pm, if the player is nearby and undetected, Jearl will start sneaking and will move up the road and find a good stakeout spot closer to the Temple. She will observe the Temple from there until 10pm, where she sneaks back to the Rune Stone. If Saveri is dead, Jearl will just stay near the rune stone, regardless of the player's presence. At midnight, she finally leaves and heads for their hideout in the depths of Bruma Caverns, next to the underground entrance to her basement. She arrives at around 1am and will stay down there until bedtime at 6am. This is a very good reference site for the vanilla Oblivion quests, people, places, and all sorts of other useful information. It also will tell you how to fix your game if you run into some of the more common game bugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanIsTheLaw Posted January 7, 2011 Author Share Posted January 7, 2011 Thanks, I have now worked it out, I did not realise you can actually get ahead of yourself in a quest and the game will still carry on as normal, but just loops forever. It happened with this and Beneris Manor in Anvil. I did not quiet complete a section, then it updated itself to the next part of the quest, but wont finish it ever. In both cases the red markers were on the map for the next part as if everything was going normally, that is what totally threw me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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