File bug reporting system and image uploading updates

[RichWebster]

In response to post #25091049. #25111084, #25116644 are all replies on the same post.

Sharlikran wrote: As helpful as this will be I am wondering if there are plans to have certain designated members have the ability to upload the fixes themselves. For example, a mod Ambassador. An author could have a mod with deleted NavMeshes or deleted references and doesn't know that any mod loaded after the mod that tries to access one of the deleted NavMeshes or deleted references will cause Skyrim to Crash. A mod Ambassador could resolve the issues and upload a new file on behalf of the author.

Granted that could be an op-in type of feature as well however, I recommend against it. The intent is not to disparage the authors work or to change the creative intent of the mod. It is only intended to resolve critical issues and to help the modding community have a more stable game experience. This would also allow some mods to be fixed when the author no longer maintains the mod. Permissions wouldn't be an issue because the same mod that the author wrote is simply fixed and uploaded to the same authors page.

B1gBadDaddy wrote: You can already allow other users to edit your file, in the Edit Attributes options :) Unless I'm misreading what you're saying.

You would need to set them yourself in this case. Unless you're suggesting the nexus creates a team of people to do this.

ThreeTen wrote: "This would also allow some mods to be fixed when the author no longer maintains the mod." I feel your pain there. Many of the errors are from mods that are no longer actively maintained (mod authors are unreachable), We can try to upload new files as fixes but theres a small chance people would even notice and im pretty sure thats against the nexus rules to begin with.

Having *official* fixes that are perhaps linked to this bug report system would help these old but still extremely popular mods would go a long way.

I'm pretty sure this would also encroach upon the file permission debate.

[mannygt]

I love the new bug reports section, Dark0ne. Could may I ask for adding a "description header" in that section? I would like to put a description like:

 

"This is the bug tracking section. Please be detailed when you report a bug. Reporting bugs which are related to other mods may not be tracked."

 

Thank you.

[EnvyDeveloper]

In response to post #25106774. #25110759 is also a reply to the same post.

EnvyDeveloper wrote: I can't upload any images to my mod. It just hangs perpetually when I try to upload it. :(

ElfyPers0n wrote: Same here :/
Edit: It worked on IE, for some reason.

It doesn't work in IE for me.

[ShivasBane]

As a very active mod user, I am enthralled by the way the game can be modded and therefore becomes a new experience during/or starting a play-through. I have been playing long enough that certain mods/characters have become essential to my experience. Sorry Lydia. I am also for some kind of system which would allow fixes to unmaintained mods. Perhaps if a mod author does not reply to queries within a certain time frame the mod could be considered abandoned and that community fixes, and only those fixes which directly address the bug issues, could be uploaded to the original authors page with proper credit given for all parties involved.

[DreGWriter]

There's a bug with the "bug report section" when users try to post images of the problems they are having. I have a link to an image showing what im talking about.

 

http://cl.ly/image/0s1z3m0i473i

 

As you can see, the picture posted in the submission stretches the post beyond the website layout boarder so users can't hit the reply/edit button nor read whats posted beyond the cut off point.

 

I can't get help about my problem because the author of the mod can't hit the reply button, and I can't even edit my post to take the pictures out because of the layout.

 

[CrithionLoren]

Could we get a Retry button for every possible error in NMM downloader? I had some internet problems and just clean reinstallled skyrim. Got a server error on 80+ mods and I don't even know which ones they where! Now I h ave to go through the database again.

[unforbidable]

This is bound to encourage mod users to provide more detailed reports than ".. doesn't work, uninstalling." knowing as their report will be properly filed in and categorized and not get buried under other posts. Thanks!

 

Edit: I'm very happy with this addition but I am wondering whether this could be used to suggest and track new features as well.

Edited May 11, 2015 by unforbidable

[IAmTiz]

In response to post #25145729.

DreGWriter wrote: There's a bug with the "bug report section" when users try to post images of the problems they are having. I have a link to an image showing what im talking about.

http://cl.ly/image/0s1z3m0i473i

As you can see, the picture posted in the submission stretches the post beyond the website layout boarder so users can't hit the reply/edit button nor read whats posted beyond the cut off point.

I can't get help about my problem because the author of the mod can't hit the reply button, and I can't even edit my post to take the pictures out because of the layout.

Fixed, it should be working now

[Sharlikran]

In response to post #25091049. #25111084, #25116644, #25120234 are all replies on the same post.

Sharlikran wrote: As helpful as this will be I am wondering if there are plans to have certain designated members have the ability to upload the fixes themselves. For example, a mod Ambassador. An author could have a mod with deleted NavMeshes or deleted references and doesn't know that any mod loaded after the mod that tries to access one of the deleted NavMeshes or deleted references will cause Skyrim to Crash. A mod Ambassador could resolve the issues and upload a new file on behalf of the author.

Granted that could be an op-in type of feature as well however, I recommend against it. The intent is not to disparage the authors work or to change the creative intent of the mod. It is only intended to resolve critical issues and to help the modding community have a more stable game experience. This would also allow some mods to be fixed when the author no longer maintains the mod. Permissions wouldn't be an issue because the same mod that the author wrote is simply fixed and uploaded to the same authors page.

B1gBadDaddy wrote: You can already allow other users to edit your file, in the Edit Attributes options :) Unless I'm misreading what you're saying.

You would need to set them yourself in this case. Unless you're suggesting the nexus creates a team of people to do this.

ThreeTen wrote: "This would also allow some mods to be fixed when the author no longer maintains the mod." I feel your pain there. Many of the errors are from mods that are no longer actively maintained (mod authors are unreachable), We can try to upload new files as fixes but theres a small chance people would even notice and im pretty sure thats against the nexus rules to begin with.

Having *official* fixes that are perhaps linked to this bug report system would help these old but still extremely popular mods would go a long way.

B1gBadDaddy wrote: I'm pretty sure this would also encroach upon the file permission debate.

B1gBadDaddy, no I'm not talking about that. For example if an Ambassador knew a mod had deleted references and NavMeshes and other issues that will cause a CTD he could fix the mod and upload the new version. The ambassador wouldn't need to ask permission it would just be done. Not to be arrogant or disparage the Authors work but to benefit the modding community and provide stability for the mod.

For mods that are no longer maintained this would be a huge help and would circumvent the need to ask for permission. For mods that are popular and fairly new some mod authors simply don't know how to fix critical issues even though there are Wiki Pages, Forum Posts, and Youtube Videos. There are many example of the errors and CTDs from credible people like Myself, Zilav, Hlp, Arthmoor, Gopher, to name a few that can demonstrate how a Deleted NavMesh effects the game. The best example being a mod that alters the NavMesh in the Breezehome. If the mod author doesn't have a separate version for Skyrim.esm only and one for Hearthfires, anyone with Hearthfires will get a CTD entering the Breezehome if they have the Skyrim only version. So this isn't conjecture.

As far as permissions that's not an issue because you upload it to the original authors page. A mod ambassador would be like a forum moderator so only a few select people would have access to do this. As far as users knowing it would be the same way it is now where when you open NMM you see that a new version is available. Edited May 11, 2015 by Sharlikran

[RichWebster]

In response to post #25091049. #25111084, #25116644, #25120234, #25160479 are all replies on the same post.

Sharlikran wrote: As helpful as this will be I am wondering if there are plans to have certain designated members have the ability to upload the fixes themselves. For example, a mod Ambassador. An author could have a mod with deleted NavMeshes or deleted references and doesn't know that any mod loaded after the mod that tries to access one of the deleted NavMeshes or deleted references will cause Skyrim to Crash. A mod Ambassador could resolve the issues and upload a new file on behalf of the author.

Granted that could be an op-in type of feature as well however, I recommend against it. The intent is not to disparage the authors work or to change the creative intent of the mod. It is only intended to resolve critical issues and to help the modding community have a more stable game experience. This would also allow some mods to be fixed when the author no longer maintains the mod. Permissions wouldn't be an issue because the same mod that the author wrote is simply fixed and uploaded to the same authors page.

B1gBadDaddy wrote: You can already allow other users to edit your file, in the Edit Attributes options :) Unless I'm misreading what you're saying.

You would need to set them yourself in this case. Unless you're suggesting the nexus creates a team of people to do this.

ThreeTen wrote: "This would also allow some mods to be fixed when the author no longer maintains the mod." I feel your pain there. Many of the errors are from mods that are no longer actively maintained (mod authors are unreachable), We can try to upload new files as fixes but theres a small chance people would even notice and im pretty sure thats against the nexus rules to begin with.

Having *official* fixes that are perhaps linked to this bug report system would help these old but still extremely popular mods would go a long way.

B1gBadDaddy wrote: I'm pretty sure this would also encroach upon the file permission debate.

Sharlikran wrote: B1gBadDaddy, no I'm not talking about that. For example if an Ambassador knew a mod had deleted references and NavMeshes and other issues that will cause a CTD he could fix the mod and upload the new version. The ambassador wouldn't need to ask permission it would just be done. Not to be arrogant or disparage the Authors work but to benefit the modding community and provide stability for the mod.

For mods that are no longer maintained this would be a huge help and would circumvent the need to ask for permission. For mods that are popular and fairly new some mod authors simply don't know how to fix critical issues even though there are Wiki Pages, Forum Posts, and Youtube Videos. There are many example of the errors and CTDs from credible people like Myself, Zilav, Hlp, Arthmoor, Gopher, to name a few that can demonstrate how a Deleted NavMesh effects the game. The best example being a mod that alters the NavMesh in the Breezehome. If the mod author doesn't have a separate version for Skyrim.esm only and one for Hearthfires, anyone with Hearthfires will get a CTD entering the Breezehome if they have the Skyrim only version. So this isn't conjecture.

As far as permissions that's not an issue because you upload it to the original authors page. A mod ambassador would be like a forum moderator so only a few select people would have access to do this. As far as users knowing it would be the same way it is now where when you open NMM you see that a new version is available.

I would support this idea for sure, and I see no reason why modders wouldn't.