angrybuffalo238 Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Does anyone else get the feeling like the world is kinda dead and empty? I recall from Oblivion that there were a ludicrous number of side quests to the point where I am sure I never did them all. And with all the faults that Morrowind and Oblivion had they both seemed very alive and lived in. I have been roaming this way and that in Skyrim adding mods and doing all kinds of stuff to try and make it a far superior experience compared to Vanilla but what I find everywhere is a sobering lack of substance in the world in general... It seems to me like there is nothing hidden in Skyrim, all the major places are mapped and apart from a few shabby holds with a number of small towns in between it seems like everything is so empty... Just caves camps and ruins for miles and miles... The factions in both previous games were a lot better by far. This one seems more like its just a bunch of fetch quests an a hurried main story line and your done... Not that great... So I guess what im really lookiing for are better factions and such. More quests and activities with dialogue and a better feel of interacting with real people than just task-reward-moving on... Oh, and more crazy happenings on the road, I found a few mods like Immersive patrols that have merchants traveling and factions fighting each other and so on and so forth. Just not enough human activity though, everything seems to be so mechanical and scripted which really hurts you if you want to have a fantasy about living in another world. I dont know, im just thinking out loud... xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironbender800 Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 (edited) I agree the world feels kinda empty. There are mods tho that add npcs. some with quests some without. and mods that enhance the guilds as well. Just search the nexus pages. Just be careful tho. adding hundreds of npcs can hurt performance. make sure your pc can handle it. if your already barely getting playable frames i wouldnt. Edited May 20, 2015 by ironbender800 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derok Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 I sadly must agree. I like Skyrim, but there is something lacking. Bethesda didn't put the same amount of "love" in this game, maybe because it was rushed.I don't think mods can fix that, the boring dialogue, micro cities and the whole leveling system.I think I'll leave Skyrim and start modding games I actually enjoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angrybuffalo238 Posted May 20, 2015 Author Share Posted May 20, 2015 (edited) I sadly must agree. I like Skyrim, but there is something lacking. Bethesda didn't put the same amount of "love" in this game, maybe because it was rushed.I don't think mods can fix that, the boring dialogue, micro cities and the whole leveling system.I think I'll leave Skyrim and start modding games I actually enjoy.And thats the problem, what other games are there? To be honest I havent even touched Oblivion with modding because my last experience with oblivion was so painful that I just couldnt bare to pick it up again... At its core Oblivion was broken. From what I heard a whole crap load of data was lost during development and they simply didnt have the time to try and go back and redo it. So instead they took a bunch of short cuts to try and make up the time and have a game that they could sell or go belly up... I mean hey, at this point I am willing to try Oblivion but I would need someone to hold my hand in the modding process. There are far too many bad emotions tied into for me so it would have to be made easy for me or I wouldnt be able to... PS And what I mean specifically is that Oblivion has the worst leveling system you could ask for, horrible graphics, shotty psychs, and a gross lack of realism. If I were to mod I would want to start with wholesale overhauls of everything and then look for specialties. Edited May 20, 2015 by angrybuffalo238 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derok Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Atleast Oblivion is a true Rpg, doesn't have perks like: heavy armor is now exactly like light armor, but better!And more skills like unarmed that didn't deserve to be removed.Graphics were atleast colorful and not various shades of grey and white (ENB are broken and just make everything too dark instead of fixing rhe lighting).Oblivion has mods that truly fix the enemy scaling system plus adding new creatures, not like Skyrim mods that just ripped content or recolored models.And Deadly Reflex! That is a mod!No games are perfect but I'm probably just tired of Skyrim. Dark Souls with modding and first person mode would be a dream but... Won't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iXenite Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Maybe try these? They could perhaps liven up your game and make the overall experience more dynamic and interesting. Interesting NPC's:http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/8429/? Inconsequential NPC's:http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/36334/? Adventurers and Travelers:http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/10527/? Ultimate Deadly Encounters:http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/12452/? Expanded Towns and Cities:http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/13608/? Extended Encounters:http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/50376/? Morrowloot 4E Edition:http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/50740/? Scarcity:http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/49496/? Requiem - The Roleplaying Overhaul:http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/19281/? Also, perhaps take a look at Broduals YouTube channel, they have tons of videos on numerous mods that you may want to take a look at. Broduals YouTube channel:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMQkYC9HUcPTertReHILVOA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angrybuffalo238 Posted May 20, 2015 Author Share Posted May 20, 2015 Maybe try these? They could perhaps liven up your game and make the overall experience more dynamic and interesting. Interesting NPC's:http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/8429/? Inconsequential NPC's:http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/36334/? Adventurers and Travelers:http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/10527/? Ultimate Deadly Encounters:http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/12452/? Expanded Towns and Cities:http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/13608/? Extended Encounters:http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/50376/? Morrowloot 4E Edition:http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/50740/? Scarcity:http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/49496/? Requiem - The Roleplaying Overhaul:http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/19281/? Also, perhaps take a look at Broduals YouTube channel, they have tons of videos on numerous mods that you may want to take a look at. Broduals YouTube channel:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMQkYC9HUcPTertReHILVOAMost of that I have already seen but Extended Encounters is something I havent seen before, Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angrybuffalo238 Posted May 20, 2015 Author Share Posted May 20, 2015 Atleast Oblivion is a true Rpg, doesn't have perks like: heavy armor is now exactly like light armor, but better!And more skills like unarmed that didn't deserve to be removed.Graphics were atleast colorful and not various shades of grey and white (ENB are broken and just make everything too dark instead of fixing rhe lighting).Oblivion has mods that truly fix the enemy scaling system plus adding new creatures, not like Skyrim mods that just ripped content or recolored models.And Deadly Reflex! That is a mod!No games are perfect but I'm probably just tired of Skyrim. Dark Souls with modding and first person mode would be a dream but... Won't happen.You know, having this conversation makes me want to look into this a bit more. Have you done any modding with Oblivion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boombro Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Atleast Oblivion is a true Rpg, doesn't have perks like: heavy armor is now exactly like light armor, but better!And what a great RPG it is! I can master anything and get all the perks! I always had to access the mages guild to get spells and enchanting. That so great!Npc tell me their whole lives and names as soon as I press E1, and dame they are always happy to talk about mud craps just like me!Bandits became strong just like the player, they have deadric armor as soon as level 20! The wild life is so dynamic, the wolves fear me and flee from existence when I get stronger!How convenient it is to be always be able to bribe my way when I screw up with npcs!The caves, I was so happy to know they all look the same because I really liked them! The only part oblivion is better than Skyrim, is questing. That it, everything else is about taste or worse. Skyrim modding is smoother, easier and there way more options. I wanted to mod oblivion but it was hard, I started with Skyrim and I was shocked to how much better it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angrybuffalo238 Posted May 20, 2015 Author Share Posted May 20, 2015 Atleast Oblivion is a true Rpg, doesn't have perks like: heavy armor is now exactly like light armor, but better!And what a great RPG it is! I can master anything and get all the perks! I always had to access the mages guild to get spells and enchanting. That so great!Npc tell me their whole lives and names as soon as I press E1, and dame they are always happy to talk about mud craps just like me!Bandits became strong just like the player, they have deadric armor as soon as level 20! The wild life is so dynamic, the wolves fear me and flee from existence when I get stronger!How convenient it is to be always be able to bribe my way when I screw up with npcs!The caves, I was so happy to know they all look the same because I really liked them! The only part oblivion is better than Skyrim, is questing. That it, everything else is about taste or worse. Skyrim modding is smoother, easier and there way more options. I wanted to mod oblivion but it was hard, I started with Skyrim and I was shocked to how much better it was. Well, thank you for making the vast majority of your post a mockery leaning toward insult... We have already established that Oblivion has a huge number of problems, but at least it didnt feel totally empty on the second play through... I can roam the wilds of skyrim without doing the main story and find piratically nothing out there that feels like a real adventure. The sum of Skyrim is combat, which is boiled down to hack and slash with nearly no strategy to speak of, but hey, if you have kill moves who cares right? People would rather watch an action movie than play a game where you have to make choices and live with consequences. Which is the underlying problem with the world in general today. People want all the right, but none of the responsibility... People dont want to think, they dont want to work, they dont want to have to set goals and try to earn what they want so that they would actually appreciate it once they have it. It all just give it to me now, dont make me wait, dont make me sweat about anything, and if you should dare criticize my manors or behavior you are a bigot and need to be punished. Its this kind of thinking and expectation that is destroying the world, and we see deep shadows of this in all the new games coming out. The whole notion of puzzle solving and creativity are now hated where before they were the delight of the world. The expectation that you need to earn something to have it and otherwise dont deserve it is called hateful and neglectful. And god forbid the practice of patience should ever be expected from anyone ever again. Give it to me now now now now now....... So there, my venting is done... Mission accomplished... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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