MCR and other emo bands

[Dark0ne]

And here's the main reason i believe that MCR are posers and Slipknot aren't. When the lead singer of MCR screams, he sounds all whiny and emotional. When Corey Taylor screams (especially in the old songs, now his voice is shot sad.gif ), he really does sound pissed off.

 

So you're calling him a poser because of the way he screams now? Honestly I think you have no argument under this poser pretense at all; you just don't like them and wanted to vent it out. Everyone screams differently, look at the difference between Killswitch Engage, Underoath and The Agony Scene. All very different screams.

 

There are people who sing, and there are people who entertain. MCR are entertainers.

 

no, i don't think the members of slipknot are posers. They're technically nu-metal, and they were one of the first nu-metal bands to come out.

 

Irrelevent.

 

Anyway, you can tell that they don't try to be hardcore, in most all metal bands, the lead singer will more or less just stand there and sing, NOT DANCE, as the lead singer of MCR does.

 

I've seen Slipknot live and the lead vocals definately doesn't just stand there and sing; he prances around the stage doing all sorts of stupid stuff.

 

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One thing you ought to learn: the whole music industry is one big fake. Bands have two faces; the ones they wear when they're at work and the ones they wear when they're off work. This is true for ALL of the bands we're talking about. If you don't believe that then you're delusional.

[poopgoblin]

i think the problem here is a lack of communication skills on my part. i know what i'm thinking, but i have trouble putting it into words(yes i do stutter a little when i speak and use words like "like") :blush:

 

Let me try and recap, bear with me

 

I believe that MCR is a band made up of emos trying to play the part of a heavy metal band

 

However, when i hear MCR's music, i hear people trying to play metal, but i don't feel any aggresion coming from them, especially the lead singer (yes, i do feel that there should be aggresion involved when people play heavy metal, and i do feel that aggresion from Slipknot's music, screams should also sound angry, not whiny, like MCR's)

 

I don't believe that Slipknot are posers because they were wearing their masks long before they had a massive fan base and were well known, i honestly don't care what they look like. Take Mudvayne for example, sometimes they play with make-up on, and sometimes without, that doesn't matter, if i was at a concert, i'd still get ripped in two in the pit either way.

 

you said it yourself, you focus on the music and not how they act in their videos (or in concert?) or how they look, but you accused Slipknot of being posers because they wore masks. If the lead singer of MCR wants to dye his hair, O.K., if Sid wants to change his mask every five minutes, whatever.

 

Crap lost my train of thought. i had more, but i forgot, OH!!!!

 

By dancing i meant swinging hips, not moving around the stage, now that i think about it, i take back my previous comment on lead singers standing still, but they still don't shake their hips. As proof that MCR's singer swings his hips: My Webpage at 1:35 is what i meant by dancing. Sorry for the misunderstanding there, my bad.

 

If you still think that MCR isn't a poser band, maybe we should just agree to disagree, your not shaking me, i'm not shaking you.

 

I think i got everything, probably didn't.

 

Oh yeah, now that i think of it, if i were in a heavy metal band, i'd probably play the flute naked, cause that'd be cool.

[Peregrine]

They're posers who think that they're hardcore. Bull crap. If you want hardcore, listen to KoRn, MuDvAyNe, SlipKnoT, Ill Nino, anything really, except other emo bands.

 

Allow me to laugh at this statement. Do you honestly think those are "hardcore"? I think you need to get some satanic black death scream metal (or whatever it's called these days). All those bands are just music industry fakes, mass-market "hardcore" for the 15 year olds who want to horrify their parents.

 

Not that I really love the true hardcore stuff, but here's a hint: if you can find it on the shelf at your local walmart, it isn't hardcore.

 

I don't like Slayer because they're satanic and have a CD that has an image that mocks Christ on the front

 

Welcome to the world of hardcore metal! You would think someone as concerned with hardcore-ness would embrace the satanism!

[poopgoblin]

to me, satanic death metal isn't hardcore, its just straight up bullcrap. but really, its worse than rap. And if you haven't gotten it yet, i am a Christian, so why would i listen to a song that talks about killing Christians (Diocide) or listen to a CD called Christ Allusion (Slayer). Oh yeah, i know Slipknot has the Heretic Anthem with the lyrics, "If your 555 then i'm 666", but guess what, i don't like that song and i don't listen to it.

[Vagrant0]

to me, satanic death metal isn't hardcore, its just straight up bullcrap. but really, its worse than rap. And if you haven't gotten it yet, i am a Christian, so why would i listen to a song that talks about killing Christians (Diocide) or listen to a CD called Christ Allusion (Slayer). Oh yeah, i know Slipknot has the Heretic Anthem with the lyrics, "If your 555 then i'm 666", but guess what, i don't like that song and i don't listen to it.

 

And people thought KISS was a Satanic band... It isn't philosophy, it's marketing. Just like Rap about pinps, hoes, and busting a cap in whitey is. Both appeal to angsty middleclass teenagers who want to rebel against their parents (and everything they believe).

 

Anyway, metal isn't about any religious beliefs, it's straight up "kick you in the nuts, stab you in the gut, watch you bleed to death, light you on fire" kind of music. Metalica (for atleast their first year), Pantera, Iron Maden, Megadeath, Slayer were the forefront of metal. Yeah, they still did that whole "Satan is cool, people will like us better if we sing about it" bullpoo, but behind that there is all that raw, unfiltered metal goodness. God, even ICP is more hardcore than Slipknot. It's still the same brand of corporate filtered metal that gets played on VH1 that's edgy only so long as they don't get calls from upset parents threatening to pull their cable subscription (and lose their skinimax?!). As was mentioned, if you can go into a Walmart, Target or even a BestBuy and see your music on sale (which isn't an edited version), it isn't Hardcore. Limp Bizket jokes aside, the good stuff has to be bought from an actual Music store.

[poopgoblin]

okaaaaaaay, but what i don't understand is why you can't buy an album from a store and not have it be hardcore. Is there some law that states that if your music is being sold in a certain store then its not hardcore?

 

and what is an "actual music store?"

[Abramul]

...Is there some law that states that if your music is being sold in a certain store then its not hardcore?

No law, merely corporate policy.

and what is an "actual music store?"

From Wikipedia:

A record shop (or record store) is an outlet that sells recorded music. Although vinyl records are no longer sold in the majority of music stores, in favor of compact discs, people still use the term "record shop", in conjunction with "CD shop" or "music shop".

[Vagrant0]

Is there some law that states that if your music is being sold in a certain store then its not hardcore?

 

and what is an "actual music store?"

 

Basically, yes. Large chain megastores (with a music section) usually only carry music that is played on the radio or on some of the music channels. As those forms of media are under restriction of the FCC, they can't play anything that Bible Beating Christian Rightists would find objectionable. Even though the stores themselves aren't required to sell the doctored versions of the songs, most of them do (even those ones with the "explicit lyrics" label that kids specificly look for). By going to a store that sells specifically music, you tend to get past that whole corporate marketing thing, and actually see what music is out there.

 

So anyway, before we get further off topic, is it just me, or does the Emo movement seem more like the resurected, castrated, corpse of some 80's hair bands brought back because boybands weren't going anywhere. Not that I'm saying it's a bad thing, people can like whatever they want, just suggesting that this is merely a continuation of previous trends.

 

Also, if you're still in highschool, you shouldn't be too concerned about what music is filtered corporate trash or not. In highschool the only thing that matters is that you're listening to the same exact stuff your friends are. Leave the plunge into the indie and subculture music scene till you're in college and can listen to whatever the hell you want without anyone giving a poo.

[poopgoblin]

yeah, i'm still in high school. my friends and i always arguee about music. most of them listen to rock of some sort (me having the most diverse taste), except my friend who i call D-Bag, he listens to rap.

 

oh yeah, i mostly download my music and find out about bands online, i haven't listened to the radio in a while, actually(:) )

[elpiggo]

Iron Maiden... still did that whole "Satan is cool, people will like us better if we sing about it" bullpoo.

 

Listen to the lyrics of "The number of the beast". You'll find it isn't satanic at all. It's all just complaints from saddos who took one look at the album cover.

 

As for Satanism in general, I wouldn't class it as a religion, as the modern image is that of goths with black makeup and hauling six foot crosses around on their necks. It was only designed to be the exact opposite of Christianity.