METHRUNE DAGON INVASION OF WASHINGTON DC

[marharth]

Right, well, time to add a bit of science!

 

Marharth, "stopping" a bullet actualy plays right into the hands of some weapons, some munitions are specificaly designed to kill targets in armour, including a tiny few that use it's own armour plate against it.

 

Before I go on, ALL of these bullets and weapon REALLY EXIST, and are de-classified, some of them even having been fired with journos present during press events, such as the railguns, which were fired for Guiness World Records in a succesful attempt in 2002 to take the world muzzel velocity record, and send a tour de force message.

OK; Group A represents conventonial weapons modified to fire specialist munitions that merely need to hit you to kill you, armour be damned.

 

Hydroshock projectile: Hydrostatic shock is when a high impact sends a destructive through soft tissues. Such shockwaves are incredibly lethal, and can be created with kinetic force rather than the harder task of punching through someone. Some shotguns, large calbire pistols, antimaterial rifles, and other similar big-bore, massive power weapons can all deliver these deadly rounds, splattering a man in his armour, regardless of thickness.

 

Manbroiler: Coated in a sloppy, oozing, hyperflamable fuel, or even napalm like substances, the vicious Incediary round hits and burns. Some versions can burst open, igniting a whole person in a deadly conflagatrion.

 

Explosive rounds: they hit, then they detonate in a small fireball and massive shockwave, shattering armour and ripping the twisted remnants of flesh clean off the mangled bones. Regardless of it's size, all targets need fear these deadly bolts.

 

Armour Peircing High Velocity: Heavyweight metal core shots with improved aerodynamics, they use clever physics and bullet dynamics to achieve a simple goal: smash ANY armour. When fired from a big enough rifle, these tungsten core rounds can do just that, splintering even vehicle plate to ribbons.

 

Now the dreaded Group B, special, mainly prototype weapons old and new, strange new frontier-of-science devices and dreadful alien looking killing instruments abound here, but all rely on unusual ways to kill, some eschewing kinetic energy alltogether.

 

"ThorHammer" rounds: Able to turn the strongest of fortifications to splintered, shattered contrete and the mightiest tanks to twisted, steaming scrap strewn a mile-long impact scar in a single skysplitting shot, the RailGun showed the world a new sort of warfare when it made it's public debut in 2002.

 

With a muzzel velocity of 17,000 MPH and above (some shots were not measurable) these horrific weapons represent the theoretical next generation of emplaced vehicle killers. Using magnetic fields to fling a vastly heavy depleted uranium slug at a hypersonic speed, RailGuns dont need to bother with such pitiful concers as the target not complying and dying when shot: tests have shown that the unimaginable kinetic force with which they hit is sufficient to SHATTER metals, rather than simply twist or bend them; the impact friction itself creates a firey explosion, and the 17+ KMPH impact shatters the slug aswell, creating a fan of hypervelocity shrapnel. If that wasnt enough, the incalculable muzzlevelocity imparts a searing thousand degree farenheit plasma charge to the bullet, meaning that if it doesnt penetrate the target, somehow, it will melt it to atoms intead, as it burns hotter than an arc-welder's tip. This could likely kill Dagon himelf in a single shot, and it can do so from over the horizon or out to sea.

 

Missilekiller Advanced Tactical Laser System: in use since the early '90s on some American warships, this ultraprecise weapon can target and destroy incoming projectiles at insane ranges using a massive laser: enhanced versions can burn the skin off aircraft and land vehicles and flash-fry humans.

 

"pocketnuke" One of the stupidest ideas to arise during the Cold Wars, which was itself a monument to our owbn idiocy, the "Pocket-Nuke" is a real world FatMan: only ever fired once, it could be fitted into a (very very very big, towed by 6 Semi-trailers) Howitzer, allowing a bombardment of tactical nukes small enough to only kill the enemy: not very practical but in Fallout such weapons would have been pushed even further into development.

 

Microwave Point Defence: a HUMVEE mounted experimental weapon, it emits a debilitating cone of microwave radiation, originaly a riotbuster, and largely abandoned, it causes excuriating pain to anything standing infront of it, turning a bold horde into crippled wimps in moments without actualy doing them any permanent harm(it WAS human-tested, and causes mild sunburn, and skin-tanning symptons after long exposure)

 

And finaly Group-C represents current weapons that can virtualy ignore armour, and using mere kinetic energy and questionable design ethics can rip virtualy anything limb from limb.

 

Ma-Duece: The Browning M-2 .50 calibre shoots the same bullet as many antimaterial rifles: survive one antimaterial slug and you're tough, surviving a burst from this deadly weapon is far harder. With a range of two miles, good accuracy and the ability to tear a man limb fom limb even in the most advanced modern armour, this venerable ancient has been present in virtualy every war since and including WWII, and it's munition, the .50 BMG has spread globaly and is used in hundreds of types weapons. It can also bring down lightly armoured air vehicles and cripple light armour.

 

Swiss BOFORS. BOFORS weapon systems, autocannon, fire powerful penetrator bullets, but can also use incendiary, or explosive rounds. These 20mm horrors typicaly boast 2-4 barrels, a rate of fire that puts machineguns to shame, and can rip apart a Main battle Tank, let alone a man!

 

Denel NTW-20. The indesputably most brutal sniper rifle ever created, the NTW 20 fires a 20mm BOFORS style autcannon shell, the sort normaly employed to kill armoured vehicles from over a mile away, and which was created in WWII to shoot down high flying aircraft. This abbhorent device will turn a man to red mist in a single shot, can use incendiary and explosive bolts, and has a range limited mainly by it's scope. It's also bloody heavy! (about 25 kilos including the tripod)

 

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Would'nt you just love to bring THAT to the rifle range? :) THAT my friends is a railgun, that's what they look like IRW, big long boxy things that shoot glowing orange bullets of doom, big thanks to WikiMedia Commons for the image, and the US Navy for actualy releasing cool stuff like that to the public.

Magic armor does not exist in real life, and therefor we wouldn't be able to test it to see what a bullet would do.

 

Not to mention we are talking about the FO3 wasteland, which would mean only the weapons that existed in FO3.

[Maharg67]

A change in question?

 

How well would the daedra do if they invaded Washington of this, the real, world?

 

I will answer later.

[ub3rman123]

Even worse. Our world is a lot more organized than that of the Wastes. Still, other factions might take advantage of our distraction as a time to attack.

[juderodney]

Magic armor does not exist in real life, and therefor we wouldn't be able to test it to see what a bullet would do.

 

Not to mention we are talking about the FO3 wasteland, which would mean only the weapons that existed in FO3.

 

Well if a sword or arrow in Oblivion can damage magic armor, why can't a bullet?

[marharth]

Magic armor does not exist in real life, and therefor we wouldn't be able to test it to see what a bullet would do.

 

Not to mention we are talking about the FO3 wasteland, which would mean only the weapons that existed in FO3.

 

Well if a sword or arrow in Oblivion can damage magic armor, why can't a bullet?

Damage does not = Perice

 

Bullet proof vests are damaged when hit by a bullet.

 

 

If the question is changed to IRL DC then we would win without question.

 

All we would have to do is launch a nuke into the gate, blows up the tower and everything.

[Vindekarr]

Aye, we could smash the poor stupid little blighters with a single nuke, roll it through the gate then detonate remotely.

 

We're also far more unified than the Capital Wasteland; the other superpowers of the world would feel threatened by this and come to Washington's side, if only to stop the invasion before it can harm them. With folks like China and Russia weighing in, Dagon would be back in Oblivion nursing a sore butt from where we kicked in before the week was out.

 

And dont forget, we've got all sorts of incredible weaponry that could harm even Dagon himself, like the Chemical Tactical Laser or Railgun. Not even Dagon can absorb a Railgun shell!

Edited March 30, 2011 by Vindekarr

[juderodney]

 

Damage does not = Perice

 

Bullet proof vests are damaged when hit by a bullet.

 

 

If the question is changed to IRL DC then we would win without question.

 

All we would have to do is launch a nuke into the gate, blows up the tower and everything.

 

Swords and arrows pierce it, too. So why not bullets? Magical armor is by no means absolute, and the armor that most Dremora wear is mundane.

[marharth]

 

Damage does not = Perice

 

Bullet proof vests are damaged when hit by a bullet.

 

 

If the question is changed to IRL DC then we would win without question.

 

All we would have to do is launch a nuke into the gate, blows up the tower and everything.

 

Swords and arrows pierce it, too. So why not bullets? Magical armor is by no means absolute, and the armor that most Dremora wear is mundane.

Its hard to say if swords and arrows pierce it or not since the damage isn't exactly realistic.

[Vindekarr]

Well if an arrow can go through their armour, what about a barrage of flak rounds?

 

I'd think they'd be torn limb from limb.

 

And even if the shells didnt pierce them, as I mentioned in a previous post there are deadly weapons that dont need to penetrate a target to kill them. Explosion will blow them up right and proper too.

[marharth]

Well if an arrow can go through their armour, what about a barrage of flak rounds?

 

I'd think they'd be torn limb from limb.

 

And even if the shells didnt pierce them, as I mentioned in a previous post there are deadly weapons that dont need to penetrate a target to kill them. Explosion will blow them up right and proper too.

Well since it changed to a invasion of real DC, of course we would win.

 

There is a massive difference between the DC wasteland and the real DC.

 

IRL we could launch missiles at the base of the towers or nuke the place and destory them.

 

Not to mention we could probably just blow up the portals without even entering them. Looks like its just made out of stone...

 

Speaking of that I may be wrong.

 

Would it be possible for a mininuke or a missile to blow up the portal? Like the entrance arch.