L1ke20N1njas Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 (edited) She is mr.handy. He is not.Technically the female Mr. Handy variants are called Ms. Nannies (and the military flavor, as you probably know, is Mr. Gutsy) though all varieties are still known as Mister Handy robots. But what's it matter?--because that sort of thing is . . . Romancing a Gen 3 is one thing, they're practically human. But the Gen 1's and 2's ARE still robots (this includes Valentine), not really romancing material if you ask me (unless you're into that sorta thing).. . . not unheard of in the Fallout universe. There is a mag with the cover featuring a groom and robo-bride. The Diamond City Schoolhouse teacher and Edna (names?) will get married if you make the right dialogue choices. Edited January 21, 2016 by L1ke20N1njas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nekollx Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 not to mention that Nick is a brain map of a 2077 Detective theres several holotapes explaining this and even a quest with holo logs to the Original Nick Valentine Synth Nick is basicly a mental clone of the original not letting us romace him but we can romace Ghouls and A Ms Nurse (curie) is some serious predjudice here, why is Curie, A string up Mr. Handy who is transfer int oa synth body more accepable a parner then SOMONE FROM YOUR OWN TIME in a synth body Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeesmies Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Maybe valentine doesnt want to be romanced :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nekollx Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Well then he can just turn you down, it IS a speech challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeesmies Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 I havent romance anyone yet in fallout, but can you do the nasty if you do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee5Lee Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Well then he can just turn you down, it IS a speech challenge. Can (Romance) speech check really be failed? I heard only about Piper's challenge, if PC's Charisma is less than certain amount... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetteCorvega Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 BetteCorvega, I'd be happy to help! I made some poking around geck in New Vegas, not very experienced though, but still ^_^ That's awesome! Thanks!! Do you have any experience working on anything like what this mod will probably involve? (I'm still really glad to have your help even if you haven't though!) I have to say, I'm pretty excited for this! Me too! glad many people have looked at my thread! XD Thanks! I was really happy to see that there were other people who were interested in this! She is mr.handy. He is not.Technically the female Mr. Handy variants are called Ms. Nannies (and the military flavor, as you probably know, is Mr. Gutsy) though all varieties are still known as Mister Handy robots. But what's it matter?--because that sort of thing is . . . Romancing a Gen 3 is one thing, they're practically human. But the Gen 1's and 2's ARE still robots (this includes Valentine), not really romancing material if you ask me (unless you're into that sorta thing).. . . not unheard of in the Fallout universe. There is a mag with the cover featuring a groom and robo-bride. The Diamond City Schoolhouse teacher and Edna (names?) will get married if you make the right dialogue choices. To me, this is part of why it would have been so interesting to romance Nick from a story perspective and I'm somewhat surprised it wasn't part of the game to begin with. Besides the fact that the sole survivor and Nick have so much in common in their backgrounds (they're both from the past and have somewhat similar personal tragedies they help each other deal with during the game) so much of the overall story and Nick's personal story in particular relate to the sentience of robots and determining at what point they are essentially "human" and should be treated as such. To me that would have made having your character romance Nick a really cool choice thematically. Well then he can just turn you down, it IS a speech challenge. Can (Romance) speech check really be failed? I heard only about Piper's challenge, if PC's Charisma is less than certain amount... I know Piper's can be failed because I watched a clip of that when I was planning out the dialogue that I am working on for this mod. I assumed it was true for every character - is that not the case? I was planning on creating dialogue for a failed romance check though - I think he should be able to turn you down! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtmaDarkwolf Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 i don't think he should be romance-able, it would kind of conflict with his personality and story, even 'if' you managed to get him a spiffy new gen3 synth meatsack to inhabit. Hes just not that type. And no, the 'he can refuse' argument don't really fit, because you can romance ALL of the romance-able companions at the same time, leading to the thinking that they are all of that mindset anyways (And likely are 'romancing' multiple others behind your back' - All of them being of 'modern' age (Where any depravity is pretty much commonplace and accepted, even encouraged) Nick on the other hand is a 1940's' type of gent (Although really from 2070's) and He 'HAD' his one great love, and does not feel the need to get another. If he was to romance ANYONE, it would be the woman whose his secretary(forgot her name) Anyways, TLDR version, I am of the side of those who feel that Nick defiantly should NOT be anything more than a close friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee5Lee Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 That's awesome! Thanks!! Do you have any experience working on anything like what this mod will probably involve? (I'm still really glad to have your help even if you haven't though!) Didn't tried to make anything for FO4 yet, but for FNV I made a bunch of custom mods involving dialogue: 2 simple companions with rather huge dialogue trees with their stories and comments, and also I was a huge fan of this mod, and wrote a custom addon with some talkable npcs. As for now, I mostly edit dialogue for Nosco companions, and make slight corrections for the game process (again in FNV). Sadly, never dealed with lip-sync and voiced replicas, only silent ones. Still, I hope to help even with that little skill I have! ^_^ Nick on the other hand is a 1940's' type of gent (Although really from 2070's) and He 'HAD' his one great love, and does not feel the need to get another. If he was to romance ANYONE, it would be the woman whose his secretary(forgot her name) During the very start of the game we see PC and his/her spouse incredibly happy and loving couple, and still, right after the spouse's murder you can romance any romanceable companion in, literally, 10 days without any affinity mods. So, the question of one great love is rather subjective in FO4, but that is rather irrelivant.Actually, Valentine's "one great love" was not really his - it was great love of HUMAN detective. To me it seems like a real tragedy - a duty to love some woman, you've never really seen, just because thoughts of love to her was put into your head. And that memory of love you've never had will be the only one in your whole life?... Rather horrifying perspective O_O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuJooGuppy Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 I can see the demand for this, I could almost see taking this further, though. You upgrade Curie.. Why not give an option, if you romance / get far enough with Nick, to upgrade him, too? Not like its impossible. In fact, it has a lot of logic to it.I can kinda see why Nick isnt romancable by default (kinda, not really, but kinda.) but the one that kills me is Deacon. Deacon is hilarious.. human... my GF pretty much says he is the only male companion she finds interesting, and yet, he isnt romancable, but Hancock is? I find it silly. I think really, Dog and Annoy-the-hell-out-of-you, I mean Strong, should be pretty much the only non-romancable that I can think of. Everyone else seems valid to me. But Deacon and Valentine are musts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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