Question about copyrights

[Miriandandes]

 

 

The full score is not used and I got it from a youtube video that is just a dude and not the original creator nor the studio that owns the franchise. And the video is 7 years old, and not muted. So if youtube doesn't have a problem, why would Nexus? Said video has 8 million views, 7 years old, and is not taken down or muted on the most popular, most copyright-trolled website in the history of mankind. If that's not an indication that something is fine to use for entertainment and not profit I don't know what is.

youtube is notorious for stolen content and it is well known that they will not remove something until someone complains. also since they are a multi-million dollar company they dont care because they can afford to take the blow and often use its own members as scape goats.

 

Which is exactly my point. No one has complained in 7 years and 8 million views, so why would anyone assume the same people would complain about it being used as a mod?

[DoctorKaizeld]

 

Which is exactly my point. No one has complained in 7 years and 8 million views, so why would anyone assume the same people would complain about it being used as a mod?

because the Nexus can afford a copyright strike. also it is horribly unprofessional and the Nexus staff are far more responsible.

[Crimsonhawk87]

Not to really get into all of the legalsleaze and all of the arguing....but can't you (the OP) just make it for yourself and be done with it? I doubt we have come to the point of armed strike forces storming into out private homes and "taking you out" because you converted a 7 year video of a 31 year old song into your personal game (although I'm sure some demented people would be fine with that). The problem is that you are re-distrubting that to a public website, who because of paranoid lawyers and uptight corporations, have to walk a very careful line on what they distribute to the public. I get your point. I really do....but I get their point as well. I think it would be awesome to have that playing in the intro, but unless I learn how to convert and incorparate it myself, I doubt I will ever have the pleasure.

[DoctorKaizeld]

 

Not to really get into all of the legalsleaze and all of the arguing....but can't you (the OP) just make it for yourself and be done with it? I doubt we have come to the point of armed strike forces storming into out private homes and "taking you out" because you converted a 7 year video of a 31 year old song into your personal game (although I'm sure some demented people would be fine with that). The problem is that you are re-distrubting that to a public website, who because of paranoid lawyers and uptight corporations, have to walk a very careful line on what they distribute to the public. I get your point. I really do....but I get their point as well. I think it would be awesome to have that playing in the intro, but unless I learn how to convert and incorparate it myself, I doubt I will ever have the pleasure.

actually there is a mod that allows you to upload music from your computer into your game: http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/15024/?

 

if this was made instead then all this copyright stuff wouldnt be a problem since people can use their own music in their own game.

[Miriandandes]

Not to really get into all of the legalsleaze and all of the arguing....but can't you (the OP) just make it for yourself and be done with it? I doubt we have come to the point of armed strike forces storming into out private homes and "taking you out" because you converted a 7 year video of a 31 year old song into your personal game (although I'm sure some demented people would be fine with that). The problem is that you are re-distrubting that to a public website, who because of paranoid lawyers and uptight corporations, have to walk a very careful line on what they distribute to the public. I get your point. I really do....but I get their point as well. I think it would be awesome to have that playing in the intro, but unless I learn how to convert and incorparate it myself, I doubt I will ever have the pleasure.

Oh I still uploaded it, what's the point in not doing so? I'm not a coward who's afraid of a 31 year old theme that has shown no evidence to be "dangerous".

There's a link to it in the video, I dunno if I'll be taken out back and whipped for daring to link to it on such a responsible and professional website, but it seems the video is ok to link.

[Crimsonhawk87]

 

 

Not to really get into all of the legalsleaze and all of the arguing....but can't you (the OP) just make it for yourself and be done with it? I doubt we have come to the point of armed strike forces storming into out private homes and "taking you out" because you converted a 7 year video of a 31 year old song into your personal game (although I'm sure some demented people would be fine with that). The problem is that you are re-distrubting that to a public website, who because of paranoid lawyers and uptight corporations, have to walk a very careful line on what they distribute to the public. I get your point. I really do....but I get their point as well. I think it would be awesome to have that playing in the intro, but unless I learn how to convert and incorparate it myself, I doubt I will ever have the pleasure.

actually there is a mod that allows you to upload music from your computer into your game: http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/15024/?

 

if this was made instead then all this copyright stuff wouldnt be a problem since people can use their own music in their own game.

 

Oh, no doubt, there are ways to get around it....my point was just that he could use it for himself (in a single player game) and could easily get away with it, without all of the fuss. I don't agree with alot of the onerous copyright laws, but I also get why Nexus has to be careful. I get both points of few.

[DoctorKaizeld]

 

Oh, no doubt, there are ways to get around it....my point was just that he could use it for himself (in a single player game) and could easily get away with it, without all of the fuss. I don't agree with a lot of the onerous copyright laws, but I also get why Nexus has to be careful. I get both points of few.

i think all of the copyright laws are quite reasonable. the owners though are a pain in the rear to work with because of their lawyers. your point though is quite good and in my opinion makes sense. i really dont see the point arguing with people about laws we have to follow just because someone (the OP) doesnt like it.

[Miriandandes]

 

 

Oh, no doubt, there are ways to get around it....my point was just that he could use it for himself (in a single player game) and could easily get away with it, without all of the fuss. I don't agree with a lot of the onerous copyright laws, but I also get why Nexus has to be careful. I get both points of few.

i think all of the copyright laws are quite reasonable. the owners though are a pain in the rear to work with because of their lawyers. your point though is quite good and in my opinion makes sense. i really dont see the point arguing with people about laws we have to follow just because someone (the OP) doesnt like it.

 

And its attitudes like that that will lead to copyrights lasting 100 years after the original creator's death. Not even being sarcastic, they tried / are trying to pull s#*! like that.

Copyright as it stands is unreasonable. Too many good things have been shut down and removed because of pointless copyrights. Too many innocent people have had their lives ruined by completely unreasonable copyrights.

The copyright is an aged, draconic model of ownership that does not expire nearly as soon as it should.

And then you have copyright trolls, people like Apple trying (and often times succeeding) to copyright very basic, universal concepts and methods, movie companies that go way overboard to "protect" their property, and people like you, who just roll over and accept the fact that even though Michael Jackson is dead, his music (even the stuff that's 30, 40 years old by now) will not become free use until after my death.

 

You should not be going "oh its fine its to protect the inventors" because most of the time its not even the people who created these things that own them, its one of the massive corporations that make their money off of the moans of people like you getting rear-ended and enjoying it, and completely financially destroying lives because that 10 dollar album that one guy pirated is clearly worth 100,000$ in compensation for having done "stolen" it.

 

Lastly, that candy bar stops existing when you take it and eat it. Digital property goes exactly nowhere and its been proven in very large, wide tests that fair use and relying on the good 'ole "my friends said its good" rather than overinflated prices helps the products in the end. In this case, hearing the theme to Terminator will make people who download it go "oh man that was an awesome movie i havent seen in forever" and then go and watch it, generating a few cents for the property holders.

[M48A5]

 

 

 

Oh, no doubt, there are ways to get around it....my point was just that he could use it for himself (in a single player game) and could easily get away with it, without all of the fuss. I don't agree with a lot of the onerous copyright laws, but I also get why Nexus has to be careful. I get both points of few.

i think all of the copyright laws are quite reasonable. the owners though are a pain in the rear to work with because of their lawyers. your point though is quite good and in my opinion makes sense. i really dont see the point arguing with people about laws we have to follow just because someone (the OP) doesnt like it.

 

And its attitudes like that that will lead to copyrights lasting 100 years after the original creator's death. Not even being sarcastic, they tried / are trying to pull s*** like that.

Copyright as it stands is unreasonable. Too many good things have been shut down and removed because of pointless copyrights. Too many innocent people have had their lives ruined by completely unreasonable copyrights.

The copyright is an aged, draconic model of ownership that does not expire nearly as soon as it should.

And then you have copyright trolls, people like Apple trying (and often times succeeding) to copyright very basic, universal concepts and methods, movie companies that go way overboard to "protect" their property, and people like you, who just roll over and accept the fact that even though Michael Jackson is dead, his music (even the stuff that's 30, 40 years old by now) will not become free use until after my death.

 

You should not be going "oh its fine its to protect the inventors" because most of the time its not even the people who created these things that own them, its one of the massive corporations that make their money off of the moans of people like you getting rear-ended and enjoying it, and completely financially destroying lives because that 10 dollar album that one guy pirated is clearly worth 100,000$ in compensation for having done "stolen" it.

 

Lastly, that candy bar stops existing when you take it and eat it. Digital property goes exactly nowhere and its been proven in very large, wide tests that fair use and relying on the good 'ole "my friends said its good" rather than overinflated prices helps the products in the end. In this case, hearing the theme to Terminator will make people who download it go "oh man that was an awesome movie i havent seen in forever" and then go and watch it, generating a few cents for the property holders.

 

 

It does not matter how you feel about copyrights and the use of copyright material. What does matter is the Terms of Service of this site.

 

As stated in the Terms of Service, that you agreed to, no one can upload copyright material without the copyright holder's permission. There is not debate. The file will be removed.

 

If you don't like it or will not abide by the rules of this site, it would be better if you were to move on before you are banned.

[DoctorKaizeld]

 

And its attitudes like that that will lead to copyrights lasting 100 years after the original creator's death. Not even being sarcastic, they tried / are trying to pull s*** like that.

Copyright as it stands is unreasonable. Too many good things have been shut down and removed because of pointless copyrights. Too many innocent people have had their lives ruined by completely unreasonable copyrights.

The copyright is an aged, draconic model of ownership that does not expire nearly as soon as it should.

And then you have copyright trolls, people like Apple trying (and often times succeeding) to copyright very basic, universal concepts and methods, movie companies that go way overboard to "protect" their property, and people like you, who just roll over and accept the fact that even though Michael Jackson is dead, his music (even the stuff that's 30, 40 years old by now) will not become free use until after my death.

 

You should not be going "oh its fine its to protect the inventors" because most of the time its not even the people who created these things that own them, its one of the massive corporations that make their money off of the moans of people like you getting rear-ended and enjoying it, and completely financially destroying lives because that 10 dollar album that one guy pirated is clearly worth 100,000$ in compensation for having done "stolen" it.

 

Lastly, that candy bar stops existing when you take it and eat it. Digital property goes exactly nowhere and its been proven in very large, wide tests that fair use and relying on the good 'ole "my friends said its good" rather than overinflated prices helps the products in the end. In this case, hearing the theme to Terminator will make people who download it go "oh man that was an awesome movie i havent seen in forever" and then go and watch it, generating a few cents for the property holders.

yeah im with M48A5, move on. we dont care about your opinion on the matter. the law is there and you have to follow it, the TOS for this site are there so you have to follow it. so stop the childish insults and attempting to make me sound stupid for stating facts and continue on with your life.