Skyrim Racisism Sucks

[Rethrain]

 

 

That's exactly what I'm saying....

yes and in turn were the one who brought it up.

 

 

the Dunmer are in the way in Skyrim as there isnt really anywhere to put them and literally no one has the resources to do anything for them. they are also unwilling to help in the current issues at hand and as such are only a drain on the economy. whether or not this is true is debatable but it does leave a very reasonable conflict for the parties involved. both sides have a very good point in their stance. the Dunmer just lost their home land and are displaced they dont want to fight someone elses war when they are still trying to figure out what to do next. the Nords on the other hand sees a waste of space and resources that they need to supply the ongoing conflict.

 

in the end the Nords actually are right purely because of their heritage. if the Dunmer stepped up and sided with either party (pro-Imp or Stormcloak) and said party won they would actually help the Dunmer and welcome them as friends as Nords are known for this type of honor system, but as i said the Dunmer are in a difficult situation that is very reasonable and easy to understand.

 

 

Yes, I did so, preemptively(Wasn't really the only one, though). So now I'll do you the solid to get back in topic. By the way, you are not a moderator, so do not tell me what to do. I didn't say that so you had to defend your self in any way, wasn't my intention, so calm down.

 

Okay.

[Padre86]

 

 

 

That's exactly what I'm saying....

yes and in turn were the one who brought it up.

 

 

the Dunmer are in the way in Skyrim as there isnt really anywhere to put them and literally no one has the resources to do anything for them. they are also unwilling to help in the current issues at hand and as such are only a drain on the economy. whether or not this is true is debatable but it does leave a very reasonable conflict for the parties involved. both sides have a very good point in their stance. the Dunmer just lost their home land and are displaced they dont want to fight someone elses war when they are still trying to figure out what to do next. the Nords on the other hand sees a waste of space and resources that they need to supply the ongoing conflict.

 

in the end the Nords actually are right purely because of their heritage. if the Dunmer stepped up and sided with either party (pro-Imp or Stormcloak) and said party won they would actually help the Dunmer and welcome them as friends as Nords are known for this type of honor system, but as i said the Dunmer are in a difficult situation that is very reasonable and easy to understand.

 

 

Yes, I did so, preemptively(Wasn't really the only one, though). So now I'll do you the solid to get back in topic. By the way, you are not a moderator, so do not tell me what to do. I didn't say that so you had to defend your self in any way, wasn't my intention, so calm down.

 

Okay.

 

He sounds pretty calm to me. You're the one who sounds agitated and you're also the one brought real world issues even though no one else had brought up that topic.

 

I didn't really see anyone telling you what to do....so just take it easy. After all, this is a game we are talking about here.

[DoctorKaizeld]

what he ^ said

[Rethrain]

Sure thing buddy.

[Boombro]

Forget it, I get the wrong book.

 

The cats are hardcore drug dealers, there is even a saying that says they can't never stop taking skooma and one wrote a book when he was able to quite saying it possible, that how much they love drugs and can't stop. They are the only traders in morrowind willing to buy drugs as well.

 

I don't see the problem of the nords wanting to by ruled by nords.

 

 

When you read the lore, nords are hardly that bad. There is many nords who are not racist, even more than the racist ones. Nords are also all the why up North and closed on themselves. (Why would anyone go their really.) Their racism has reasons. They are just softies, think they suck? Well it time to enlighten you, because almost all the other races suck way harder.

 

Breton force orcs out, kill them and trash their homes.

 

Dunmer will cross border into Argonia to take children and enslave them until death even after Argonians raided morrowind, even after they teamed up in a war. Since they think beast folk are will, less than human for lack of a better word. And all dunmer of morrowind are racist, ALL OF THEM. Playing morrowind is pretty much scarring as a non dunmer, it made some people stop playing the game.

 

Orcs view others as worthless weaklings.

 

Altmer wins on the racism war, Altmer look down at their very own race if the father was not an altmer and want to start a big war and became the ruling race. (Good luck with aegonia. Hehe.)

 

 

Nords let you work, marry whoever you want and even join them and name yourself as a StormCloak. All acts of racism are passive and rare, not counting bandits, who are well, bandits. They let dunmer in even after they had a very long history of war and and mistrust and gave them their island back.

 

And no, most dunmer of windhelm don't work. Two own shops and one a farm. The farmer has even a nord working for him. A nord takes a bosmer as a wife even.

[Rethrain]

Forget it, I get the wrong book.

 

The cats are hardcore drug dealers, there is even a saying that says they can't never stop taking skooma and one wrote a book when he was able to quite saying it possible, that how much they love drugs and can't stop. They are the only traders in morrowind willing to buy drugs as well.

 

I don't see the problem of the nords wanting to by ruled by nords.

 

 

When you read the lore, nords are hardly that bad. There is many nords who are not racist, even more than the racist ones. Nords are also all the why up North and closed on themselves. (Why would anyone go their really.) Their racism has reasons. They are just softies, think they suck? Well it time to enlighten you, because almost all the other races suck way harder.

 

Breton force orcs out, kill them and trash their homes.

 

Dunmer will cross border into Argonia to take children and enslave them until death even after Argonians raided morrowind, even after they teamed up in a war. Since they think beast folk are will, less than human for lack of a better word. And all dunmer of morrowind are racist, ALL OF THEM. Playing morrowind is pretty much scarring as a non dunmer, it made some people stop playing the game.

 

Orcs view others as worthless weaklings.

 

Altmer wins on the racism war, Altmer look down at their very own race if the father was not an altmer and want to start a big war and became the ruling race. (Good luck with aegonia. Hehe.)

 

 

Nords let you work, marry whoever you want and even join them and name yourself as a StormCloak. All acts of racism are passive and rare, not counting bandits, who are well, bandits. They let dunmer in even after they had a very long history of war and and mistrust and gave them their island back.

 

And no, most dunmer of windhelm don't work. Two own shops and one a farm. The farmer has even a nord working for him. A nord takes a bosmer as a wife even.

 

Hmm, it's not really a problem about the book. You may have read that somewhere else, anyways, it's not really important.

 

The Nords did try to destroy elvenkind, though. Hmmm, you are saying basically what I said before about the races, though, Boombro. So no enlightening happening here.

 

I do agree with the Altmer, though, they were never so militant about it. Annoying though, yeah.

 

I do feel terrible about some people's experience about playing morrowind, that's...a new thing I heard. I always played a Nord, but always shrug it off.

[Boombro]

Nords willing to destroy elven kind was something ages ago. As far as I know anyways.

 

Sorry, I can't read all the comments.

[Padre86]

Forget it, I get the wrong book.

 

The cats are hardcore drug dealers, there is even a saying that says they can't never stop taking skooma and one wrote a book when he was able to quite saying it possible, that how much they love drugs and can't stop. They are the only traders in morrowind willing to buy drugs as well.

 

I don't see the problem of the nords wanting to by ruled by nords.

 

 

When you read the lore, nords are hardly that bad. There is many nords who are not racist, even more than the racist ones. Nords are also all the why up North and closed on themselves. (Why would anyone go their really.) Their racism has reasons. They are just softies, think they suck? Well it time to enlighten you, because almost all the other races suck way harder.

 

Breton force orcs out, kill them and trash their homes.

 

Dunmer will cross border into Argonia to take children and enslave them until death even after Argonians raided morrowind, even after they teamed up in a war. Since they think beast folk are will, less than human for lack of a better word. And all dunmer of morrowind are racist, ALL OF THEM. Playing morrowind is pretty much scarring as a non dunmer, it made some people stop playing the game.

 

Orcs view others as worthless weaklings.

 

Altmer wins on the racism war, Altmer look down at their very own race if the father was not an altmer and want to start a big war and became the ruling race. (Good luck with aegonia. Hehe.)

 

 

Nords let you work, marry whoever you want and even join them and name yourself as a StormCloak. All acts of racism are passive and rare, not counting bandits, who are well, bandits. They let dunmer in even after they had a very long history of war and and mistrust and gave them their island back.

 

And no, most dunmer of windhelm don't work. Two own shops and one a farm. The farmer has even a nord working for him. A nord takes a bosmer as a wife even.

That's a pretty good explanation of how the other races/cultures view themselves. There is enough xenophobia and racism to go around all of Tamriel that the Nords, especially the Stormcloaks, really aren't that extreme by comparison. The real reason why everyone likes to call the Stormcloaks racists is because of a few obnoxious townfolk who harass a few Dunmer in Windhelm and make some comments out loud. But that's really the extent of it.

 

Dunmer are still allowed to work and live in the city, as they are pretty much everywhere in Skyrim. I've heard that Argonians aren't allowed into the city, but I believe that has more to do with keeping the Dunmer and Argonians (who have a violent history with one another) from attacking each other.

 

By and large, most races are allowed to live and work in Skyrim freely. The Kahjit caravans are kept outside of the city, probably due to the shop owners and Jarls wanting to avoid financial competition, but Kahjits themselves are still allowed in. People will correctly point out that Skyrim isn't nearly as diverse or cosmopolitan as Cyrodil. Cyrodil is the epicenter of a multicultural empire and trade network, so of course its going to be more diverse. Skyrim, by contrast, is a backwater Imperial province, with a tough climate and environment; not many people, outside of the Dunmer, really want to move there really and why would they?

 

The Nords are naturally suspicious and guarded around foreign races, that's for certain. But go look at the Companions or any number of cities. The # of foreign races working and living there should tell you that most Nords will gladly overlook a person's race so long as they work hard and contribute.

 

My favorite story demonstrating this (I forget the book it was from) was about how the Nords treated the leader of the Snow Elves, after defeating him in battle. They were so impressed by his battle prowess and respected that he was able to kill so many of their heroes that they gave him a warrior's burial and assigned a guard to his tomb to keep it from getting defiled. Granted, they continued to hunt down or drive out the remaining Snow Elves, but at least that shows that other races, even enemies, are capable of earning a Nord's respect.

Edited January 13, 2016 by Padre86

[Boombro]

You dont want morrowind dunmer anywhere near Argonians, any dunmer form any other place is chill. Just not morrowind. They are just hella bitter.

 

I still don't understand why the dunmer of windhelm don't move or something. If I was one of them I may try a warmer place. But it seems like they stayed in wind helm since they came to Skyrim and just stayed.

 

I'm still scratching my head as to why some argonians live in Skyrim. Argonia is a world away and skyrim has no dreams nonsense like Murcia. Kahjiit are here for trade, why them? Why here? Do you like Nordic tombs? I know they are cool, but you have ruins too right?

 

It stated many times in the game, work hard and help with your part to earn trust of the nords. Which is pretty fair idea to me.

 

All this racism talk reminded me of a freakishly bitter countess.