Why 200 years?

[Boombro]

Wasn't Boston hit by blasts?

 

 

Adding straw or dung to it actually makes it stick together better, and both grass and brahmin dung should be in ample supply.

I prefer gentle rain drops than my place smelling like s#*!.

[Moraelin]

Well, if you white-wash it -- which you should, to keep it dry, unless you're in a very dry climate -- it won't smell much. But fair enough. You can use just straw then. Especially if you can find some soil that's moderately rich in clay, it will stick together quite well without dung.

[Lisnpuppy]

I don't remember the exact conversation (I'm not a synth, I don't have a recorder in my head;)) but he seems to say he's been in there for a very long time and it was dark and boring. Doesn't sound like he awoke just now.

 

As for why 200 years... I'm guessing because if it were 50 years, I'd have a bit of a hunch that Father might be, you know, lying his donkey off :wink:

 

 

Kids are like dogs, they have no concept of time. When my kids were small (well heck I could still do it and they are teens) I could have left them in a room for 5 min and they would have been bored and crazy and scared and have gone the full spectrum of emotions and back.

 

So there is no telling there. lol

[Pthalo]

I think it's because Bethesda really wanted to go back to the feel of Fallout 1, but felt that they had to make Fallout 3 a sequel that took place years after the last game.

 

If you look at Fallout 3, it should really be taking place at the same time as Fallout 1 in terms of the devastation and how little rebuilding was going on. But they also forgot about Shady Sands and that it was a completely new, clean village made using adobe. While Fallout 4 feels like it should be taking place at the same time as Fallout 2 (cities are coming back attempts at trade, etc).

 

The weather though does make a little sense, as to the dead plants. I think that Fallout 4 takes place in the fall. October and November. They grass died, the leaves fell, it's raining constantly and it's wet. It'd just help if they went with a more dynamic environment grass and leaf-wise.

Yeah I was gonna say, it's el niño winter here in Ottawa and everything's looked more or less like a combination of October and March, since ...October. Brown, grey, brown, and mostly-dead crap everywhere. Real life does sometimes look like FO4. It probably helps that we drain our canal system over the winter, so we have that dried-up lake of garbage aesthetic to go alongside. I will lament the 'everything is dead' feel once my Sole Survivor makes it to late winter, and then spring. Though... I can't imagine radstorms are very friendly to nature. Maybe the farms we see are just the few foodcrops left that have mutated sufficiently to survive the radiation, hence why they seemingly thrive in spite of an otherwise-dead world?

 

I forgave the Elder Scrolls games for lacking seasons, because their whole world-lore suggests their cosmos works according to crazy whims of deities and stuff. I'm pretty sure the sun in skyrim is supposedly a huge hole left in reality because their world-maker got the hell out of dodge. For all we know, Cyrodiil is part of a flatworld. But Fallout takes place on a very physics-ruled Earth, so WHAR BE MY SEASONS, MATE?

 

I edited an older post but realize it's just gonna get buried: I suspect FO4 is sticking with FO3's 200-years marker because they then have the option of FO3 character cameos - and it's possible that beyond Dr. Li, the others are planned for inclusion via future DLC's.

Edited December 19, 2015 by Pthalo

[Boombro]

Fallout 4 seems to take place early winter when I think about it.

[Pthalo]

I don't know when winter starts to look like winter in Boston, nor do I know what nuclear devastation would do to the climate.

 

What I DO know is that it's a few days before Halloween before the bombs fall, and it's a few days before a very different Halloween when you wake up. I know because one of the Diamond City guards complained about not getting any candy or something silly, and sure enough, my pip-boy's been counting calendar days the whole time that dead vault scientist was wearing it. October 31st, and I hadn't spent that long dinking around before making my way to the great green jewel.

 

 

 

I prefer gentle rain drops than my place smelling like s***.

 

 

Understandable! Though if I may... If you really don't wanna smell or smell like s***, I suggest never doing jet again. That crap be jenkem.

Edited December 19, 2015 by Pthalo

[CaptainPatch]

@Boombro

As I was saying, adobe is just basically mud. And a style of adobe plaster is basically just paint a layer of mud on the wall, watch it dry :wink: repeat.

Much of Elizabethan England was comprised of "daub-and-wattle" architecture https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wattle_and_daub People do NOT like having Mother Nature just breezing into their lives. Native American even though often nomadic, created a variety of do-it-yourself housing like teepees, wigwams, longhouses, igloos, etc. Why wouldn't some people build weather-tight homes if they couldn't find an pre-existing sound structure to move into? And why, why, why do they NEVER clear out the trash? Does EVERYONE living in a garbage dump? And some NPCs are portrayed as being wealthy enough to hire employees? Why no spend some of that wealth to hire a maid service to clean up the domicile. Maybe even hire a glazier to make some windows.

[Boombro]

 

nd why, why, why do they NEVER clear out the trash? Does EVERYONE living in a garbage dump? And some NPCs are portrayed as being wealthy enough to hire employees? Why no spend some of that wealth to hire a maid service to clean up the domicile. Maybe even hire a glazier to make some windows.

Everyone asks about it everywhere. So I went into the game and looked about it.

 

The institute and vault 81 are very clean unlike the wastelanders, same goes for the convent. There is also many clean places, all farms are clean and same goes for npc houses.

So what are you guys talking about?