Crashes reminiscent of skyrim 3.1gb limit

[Nazgren]

Hi,

Been playing for a little while now and have started encountering strange CTD's. It mainly happens in high density areas such as the Commons and occasionally in medium density areas like Diamond City, sometimes it happens sometimes it doesn't, but does far more often then not and after varying amounts of time, but not by much. It never crashes in low density areas such as small interiors and relatively empty cells in the exterior. Sometimes I can sprint to where I'm going and load into an interior before it crashes. I tried checking Papyrus but very few errors that look mostly harmless were listed. What I did notice was that the last line cuts off for seemingly no reason, often mid word, leading me to believe this is not a mod issue. All of the above is much the same as hitting the 3.1gb memory limit in skyrim. However, this should not be the issue here as Fallout 4 is supposedly 64 bit. Does anyone have any ideas as to what could be causing crashes like this?

[Ethreon]

Using any mods? If so, which ones+plugin load order.

[Nazgren]

Uff, theres 97 in total, but here it is:

 

Mods:

 

 

4K Clean Minuitemen General Uniform - 4K Dark Black

4K HD Enhanced Blood Mod

4K HD textures - Power Armors - Complete Pack

Alternate Settlements 0.8

Alternative Synth Eyes Red

Armor Keywords Community Resource v1.51

Armorsmith Extended v2.41

Armour Categories ReDone + Compatibility Patches

Better Armour Mod Descriptions

Better Computer Terminals 4K Standard

Better Handmade Weapon Textures v1.2

Better Piper Outfit

Better Quarry Sights + HD Normal Maps

Better Settlements and Camps 2 - 4K

Better Settlers v0.9

Binary Speech Checks V.4 Normal Edition

Black Combat Armor

Black Feathered Dress

Black Institute Weapons

Black Leather Armor Pieces

Black Marksman Sniper Rifle Stock

Black Maxsons Battlecoat

Black Road Leathers

Black Syth Armor + Legendaries

Bodyslide and Outfit Studio

Busty V4

Cait Makeover

CBBE

CBBE Every armor part with Bodyslide + hotfix's

CBBE Vanilla outfits

Concealed Armors 1.0

Corset Black Recolour

Craftable Armor Size

Craftable Elevators mark 3.2.0

Craftable Ramps and Rails mark 1 v2

Crafting Workbenches

D.E.C.A.Y- Better Ghouls

Darker Default Power Armor Fra,e

Devastator Armor Black Re-color

Enhanced Blood Textures

Eyewear and Mask Retexture - Realistic lens glasses retexture

Fallout 4 Enhanced Color Correction - Orginal + Gloom

Fallout 4 Texture Overhaul Moons - Masser and Secunda 4K

Fallout Texture Overhaul Pipboy UHD 4K Dark Version

Fallout Texture Overhaul Stars 4K

FAR - Faraway Area Reform (lod) 1.1

Female Vaultsuit Simple recolour - Black

FO4 Rain V3

Full Dialogue Interface

Functional Weapon Racks v0.1.9 Alpha

Ghost - White Dogmeat + Red Eyes

Gil Elvgren - Pinup Better Pictures 2.0

Glorious Female Nude Mod CBBE Edition

Gore Overhaul

High Resolution Texture Pack - Valius

Homemaker - Expanded Settlements

Idle Hands - Female Idle Customization v1.0

Immersive Mouth and Teeth 2K -2.2

Improved Map with Visible Roads

Improved Workshop Lights

legendary Modification

Longer Power Lines - 3X

Lowered Weapons 1.1

More Weaves - No railroad

Nanosuit 3.0 Standalone Full Package with Booty Enhanced Female

Piper Face Retexture

Radiant Clouds and Fog

Rich Merchants - less caps 1.1

Robot Home Defence

Rock on

RustyXXLs quick and Dirty CBBE Bodyslide Conversions + RXL Armorsmith extended v0.5.9 bodyslide files

Settlement Keywords v0.6

Settlement Supplies Expanded 2.5

Shack Floors Re-Done 4k - Dull 1.2

The Eyes of Beauty Fallout Edition - Authors Pick 1

Tie Fighter Pip Boy Texture Overhaul 4K

Towbies Realistic Weapon Sounds

True Storms Wasteland Edition 1.2 + Darker Nights

Valkyr Female Face and Body Textures

Vault Booty - Enhanced Female Vault Suit 1.0.4

Wasteland Build a Bear v2.0 + Homemaker Compatability

Wasteland Salon - Hair Texture Improvement v1.3

Weapon Balance Overhaul

WET - Water Enhancement Textures 1.5

Young Female Face Texture

 

 

 

Plugins in load order:

 

 

Fallout 4.esm

Armor Keywords.esm

SettlementKeywords.esm

Homemaker.esm

Safe SSEx.esm

WET.esp

Binary Speech Checks V.4.esp

Busty.esp

Cuts and Blunts 3.0.esp

extendedLightsWS.esp

Weaponry Overhaul.esp

Weaponracks.esp

weaponracks-tools-vanilla.esp

DDP_BAB_m1.esp

Homemaker - SK-SSEx Patch.esp

TrueStormsFO4.esp

TrueStormsFO4-DarkNights.esp

Robot Home Defence.esp

AlternateSettlements.esp

WeaponRacks-ALTSET.esp

Alternate Settlements Set C Blocker.esp

Alternate Settlements Set B Blocker.esp

Alternate Settlements Build Toggle.esp

Alternate Settlements Set A Blocker.esp

BetterArmorModDescriptions.ESP

Crafting Workbenches - Removed Crafting Experience.ESP

Crafting Workbenches.esp

Crafting Workbenches - Ammo.esp

Crafting Workbenches - Ammo Expanded.esp

Crafting Workbenches - Ammo Special.esp

Crafting Workbenches - Junk Items.esp

Crafting Workbenches - Power Armor.esp

Crafting Workbenches - Pre War and Manufactured.esp

Armorsmith Extended.esp

Armourcategories.esp

Legendary Modification.esp

Legendary ModificationMisc.esp

Legendary ModificationGrognak.esp

MoreWeaves.esp

Craftable Armor Size.esp

ConcealedArmor.esp

CBBE.esp

Vaastek_Vaultsuit.esp

Cait_Visual_Overhaul.esp

BetterSettlers.esp

RichMerchantsLessCaps.esp

DDP_Elevators_mark1.esp

DDP_Ramps_mark1.esp

LongerPowerlines3x.esp

 

 

I have fixed the Crafting Workbench - Removed Crafting Experience.esp being above Crafting Workbench.esp now (now I know to always double check LOOT) but as Crafting Workbench is not a master for the other and I have yet to crash in Sanctuary I don't believe this will make any difference. As you can see most of it is graphical, the most likely culprit I can see would likely be the settlement mods, but like I said, I have yet to crash in any settlements or while building.

[Ethreon]

That's a lot of 4k mods. While FO4 might be a 64bit application, I doubt Beth optimized the engine properly. Try reducing shadows to medium in your launcher. I did it and never had issues with performance or crashed from it.

[Nazgren]

Yeah i know, but then:

i7-6700k
Asus ROG Z170 Maximus VIII Hero
EVGA GTX Titan X Superclocked
Kingston HyperX Predator DDR4 12GB 3000mhz
Samsung 850 Pro 1tb

 

If there's a system that can handle it, its probably mine. I know its still engine handicapped, but still. Given how Bethesda Shadows are CPU handled. I cant imagine dropping them to medium from admittedly 8192 would make any difference. If given the above you still believe its worth a try then i will try dropping it, but im sceptical.

Edited January 18, 2016 by Nazgren

[Ethreon]

Try, it's not gonna take your more than a few minutes. I have a fairly strong system bought specifically for this game, and it hiccups inside city due to too many object shadows needing to be drawn. (gtx980, 16ddr3@1600,SSD install, i74790, same MB as you).

[Nazgren]

Tried dropping the shadows to 2160, no help whatsoever, crashed within 5 seconds of loading a save on top of the Gilded Grasshopper building, right in the heart of the commons.

[Jinusean]

Have you tried playing with the load order? or using LOOT? I've got a lot of the same mods and had similar crashes.

The culprits for me at least turned out to be settlement mods. I can already see that you should move the homemaker SSEx

patch up directly beneath SSEx, you've got a ton of settlement crafting mods and those tend to conflict really easily and cause said problem.

Alternate settlements has been updated and homemaker has a patch to work with SK and Alternate settlements as far as SSEx I would

get rid of it if you can live without the few things that it adds that homemaker doesn't. Which isn't very much. Alternate Settlements should

also be higher up on the list or at least grouped together with the other settlement mods. I just noticed you have SK (settlement keywords)

That should be second on your list under Homemaker then Armor keywords I'd just give loot a shot and update your mods to the latest version.

And you're also missing a patch for truestorms and radiant clouds and fogs.

 

This is my load order ATM for example

 

 

 

Fallout4.esm

Homemaker.esm

SettlementKeywords.esm

ArmorKeywords.esm

AlternateFurniture.esp

AlternateSettlements.esp

Homemaker - Settlement Keywords Compatibility Patch.esp

Homemaker - Unlocked Institute Objects SK.esp

MOAR Turrets.esp

InfusedPlasmaBuff.esp

EpicDrums.esp

LoweredSprintAPDrain.esp

Scrap Everything.esp

Simple Intersection.esp

VeryRichMerchants.esp

Buildable_PAFrame_v1.3.esp

Craftable Armor Size.esp

LegendaryModification.esp

LegendaryModification2LM.esp

ProtoLining.esp

CompanionAllInOneBuildableLootablePAFrames.esp

ExpandedSettlementBuildings.esp

ExpandedSettlementBuildings_Homemaker.esp

DD_1x1_Foundation_Blocks.esp

InstantVendorsReset.esp

CarryWeight25Strength.esp

CarryWeight99999.esp

10% Fusion Core Drain.esp

LoweredJetpakAPDrain.esp

LegendaryAllDifficulties20x.esp

LegendaryRarity25.esp

Easier Hacking - 1 Word.esp

Easy Lockpick.esp

Faster EXP - 10x.esp

IncreasedSettlerPopulation100.esp

jump150.esp

LongerPowerLines3x.esp

Realistic Death Physics.esp

ShellRain.esp

GunNut5.esp

BetterSettlers.esp

EssentialAbernathys.esp

Always Idiot Savant.esp

SkjAlert_RS+.esp

RebuiltCroupManor v1.3.esp

RebuiltTaffingtonBoathouseLoreFriendly v1.1.esp

RebuiltSomervillePlace v1.0.esp

DarkerNights.esp

TrueStormsFO4.esp

TrueStormsFO4-ClimateSettings.esp

DarkerNightsDetection.esp

DarkerNights-TrueStorms.esp

Radiant Clouds and Fogs.esp

DarkerNights-Radiant.esp

Fr4nssonsLightTweaks.esp

WET Clearer.esp

Remove Interior Fog.esp

CombatRiflePlus.esp

Armorsmith Extended.esp

Military_Cap_Extended_v1_2.esp

Perk Magazine Material Fix.esp

Kerrigan.esp

MoreBeards2.esp

MoreHairstyles4Female4.esp

MoreHairstyles4Female4.1.esp

MoreHairstyles4Male3.1.esp

AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp

MojaveImports.esp

Chem_redux.esp

Colorful Mirelurks.esp

NoMoreHolesNick.esp

Glorious_Glowing_Plasma_Weapons_by_Diranar.esp

SniperDamage v1.5x.esp

R91M.esp

AK2047.esp

Although I wouldn't copy it exactly because I just applied the new beta update and it redid my plugins.txt so I need to make some edits still.

[Nazgren]

As I said in second post, that is the order that Loot gave me. I've tried running it again but for whatever reason it now refuses to open, will look into that later. I reshuffled my load order and updated my true storms and settlement mods and it now looks like this:

 

 

 

Fallout 4.esm

SettlementKeywords.esm

ArmorKeywords.esm

Alternate Settlements.esp

Homemaker - Settlement Keywords Compatibility Patch.esp

AlternateSettlements - Set A Blocker.esp

AlternateSettlements - Set B Blocker.esp

AlternateSettlements - Set C Blocker.esp

AlternateSettlements - Build Toggle.esp

Crafting Workbench.esp

Crafting Workbenches - removed crafting experience.esp

crafting Workbenches - ammo.esp

Crafting Workbenches - ammo expanded.esp

Crafting Workbenches - ammo special.esp

Crafting workbenches - junk items.esp

Crafting Workbenches - power armor.esp

Crafting Workbenches - pre war and manufactured.esp

DDP_BABM1.esp

DDP_Elevators_mark1.esp

DDP_Ramps_mark1.esp

LongerPowerLines3x.esp

WET.esp

Binary Speech ChecksV.4.esp

Busty.esp

Cuts and Blunts 3.0.esp

ExtendedlightsWS.esp

Weaponry Overhaul.esp

WeaponRacks.esp

Weaponracks-Weapons-WO.esp

WeaponRacks-Weapons-WO.esp

Weaponracks-altset.esp

Robot Home Defence.esp

BetterArmorModDescriptions.esp

Armorsmith Extended.esp

Armour Categories

LegendaryModification.esp

LegendaryModificationmisc.esp

LegendaryModificationGroknak.esp

MoreWeaves.esp

Craftable Armor Size.esp

ConcealedArmor.esp

CBBE.esp

Vasstek_Vaultsuit.esp

Cait_Visual_Overhaul.esp

BetterSettlers.esp

RichMerchantsLessCaps.esp

TrueStormsFO4.esp

TrueStormsFO4-ClimateSettings.esp

DarkerNights.esp

DarkerNightsDetection.esp

Darkernights-Truestorms.esp

 

 

Loaded the same save as before on top of the gilded grasshopper building in the commons, still crashed after ~5 seconds. will go through all my mods one by one and check for updates and incompatibilities. I would hazard a guess it will be unrelated to my settlement mods as i have never (iirc) crashed inside a settlement.

Edited January 19, 2016 by Nazgren

[Nazgren]

Updated a variety of mods, and removed SSex and BUSTY fully, it lasted a bit longer this time but still crashed.