Fallout 4 Issues

[Inquisitor956]

Hello everyone!

 

I made this topic because I need some assistance with a few issues I have in the game. Any and all help is appreciated!

 

My system is as follows, in case anyone needs any of this information:

 

• CPU: AMD A10 5800k, overclocked to 4.6GHz stable
• GPU: MSI R9 380 Gaming 4GB, overclocked 1100MHz core, 1600 memory clock, +20 Power limit, stable
• PSU: Silverstone Strider Plus 600W Fully Modular 80plus Bronze, ST60F
• RAM: 8GB Kingston Hyper X Fury Black 1866MHz 2x4GB
• Mobo: MSI FM2-A75MA-E35
• Storage: Samsung SSD 850 Evo 250gb, 1TB WD Blue (3.5"), 250GB WD Blue (2.5")
• Cooling: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo

 

First thing is first, let me list all the things I have done in order to try and resolve these issues:

 

• Reinstalled the game.
• Made sure DirectX and all other dependencies are properly updated (though Win10 and Steam make sure of this already).
• Disabled all over-clocks, and even under-clocked the GPU a bit.
• Made sure all drivers are updated, although I reverted to the pre-Crimson drivers since Crimson, for some reason, kept crashing my PC when playing Fallout 4 (and only F4). This got rid of random crashing and has kept my system very stable. And yes, I tried the latest hotfix from AMD, and as soon as I installed it, the random crashes returned.
• Disabled all mods. .INI changes included.
• Made sure my CPU and GPU weren't overheating. (Both never get over 60 degrees Celsius on full load)
• De-fragmented all my hard drives, even though the game is installed on the SSD.
• I've enabled beta updates for this game, and I believe the latest one is 1.3.47. I have also tried disabling beta updates, but the issues still persist.

 

*EDIT* As suggested, I have added my mod list in its load order. Although mods don't seem to affect any of these issues. They happen with a clean install of the game or not.

 

1. Fallout4.esm
2. ConcealedArmor.esm
3. Arbitration - Resources.esm
4. ArmorKeywords.esm
5. SettlementKeywords.esm
6. SpringCleaning.esm
7. Homemaker.esm
8. 25% Fusion Core Drain.esp
9. DarkerNights.esp
10. More armor slots.esp
11. no_level_reqs.esp
12. CraftableRangedWeapons.esp
13. Workshop_Planters.esp
14. ExpandedSettlementBuilding.esp
15. Simple Intersection.esp
16. Snap and Build - Greenhouse.esp
17. BetterGenerators.esp
18. Robot Home Defence.esp
19. DDP_Bridge_mark1.esp
20. DDP_Ramps_mark1.esp
21. ConcealedArmor.esp
22. Arbitration - Button Lowered Weapons.esp
23. OCDecorator.esp
24. Companion Infinite Ammo and Unbreakable Power Armor.esp
25. LegendaryModification.esp
26. LegendaryModification2LM.esp
27. LegendaryModificationMisc.esp
28. My_Minutemen.esp
29. DD_Michael_Faraday_Time_yo.esp
30. CraftableAmmunition_Core.esp
31. CraftableAmmunition_Recipes_Components_Normal.esp
32. CraftableAmmunition_Recipes_Core_Perks.esp
33. CraftableAmmunition_Recipes_FusionCore_Perks.esp
34. CraftableAmmunition_Recipes_NukaGrenade_Perks.esp
35. AK2047.esp
36. M9.esp
37. SC_ExpandedScrapList.esp
38. SKJAlert_S+.esp
39. ScrapDeadThings.esp
40. MoBettaScrap.esp
41. CompRedo.esp
42. Merchants stick with store - Regular settlers.esp
43. Merchants stick with store - Unique Settles.esp
44. AlternateSettlements.esp
45. DD_CBBE_SLooty_Castle_Innie_Vajajay_4K_Fix.esp
46. RainofBrassPetals.esp
47. PipBoyShadows.esp

 

So what are the issues I'm having?

 

1. Sometimes, textures look weird. They lose color, take on a random color, (mostly blue), have this weird pixelated effect and, interestingly enough, morph some other textures into them. I include some screenshots of this here. (I removed the possibility of the GPU being faulty since it only happens with this game.) Restarting the game fixes this, but I have encountered a few times it does not.
2. Both the institute rifle and pistol have no sound when firing them. The institute rifle is especially frustrating since I cannot aim it at all either. I end up with the butt of the rifle right in the middle of the screen, blocking most of the view.
3. Random crashes in specific areas. Most notably it used to happen on Monsignor Plaza, but one of the patches fixed this area I believe, though I haven't been back to check on it. Now I'm crashing on the BADTFL Offices, on the interior. These aren't just the game crashing to desktop, it crashes my computer, completely locking it up. It only happens in these areas, as far as I know.

 

Again, any and all help is appreciated! These are the main issues that prevent me from fully enjoying the game. I love this Fallout 4, and I know Bethesda is doing their best to fix a lot of things, but they need to release the G.E.C.K. (or CK) soon so we can have other people look into these issues. It shouldn't be this way, but having more people looking into bugs and glitches as well as them is much better.

Edited January 21, 2016 by Inquisitor956

[tedman84]

Are AMD drivers sorted out now (supposedly)? I heard they were a bit flakey the last time I checked.

 

Can you borrow a different GPU for testing? What OS are you running?

[mwhenry16]

I have an iMac with the M395x, and the only "flaky" thing it does is occasionally, like one or two times a week, "..stopped responding, and has recovered", which necessitates restarting the game.

 

That's probably not your problem. Perhaps those among us smarter than I could use such information as: Which and how many mods are you using? Are you using NMM or manually installing? Are you sure of the load order or using Loot?

[Inquisitor956]

I have an iMac with the M395x, and the only "flaky" thing it does is occasionally, like one or two times a week, "..stopped responding, and has recovered", which necessitates restarting the game.

 

That's probably not your problem. Perhaps those among us smarter than I could use such information as: Which and how many mods are you using? Are you using NMM or manually installing? Are you sure of the load order or using Loot?

AMD seems to have received the worst with this game. Most of the problems and crashing I have seen with this game are on AMD platforms. In my case, I've had a few issues of "Fallout4.exe has been blocked from accessing graphics hardware.", but a quick reboot of the game and it works fine. In the other cases, which only happened when using Crimson, instead of the usual "Graphics driver has stopped responding and has recovered.", my entire PC just locks up.

 

Thanks for the suggestion, I will include the mod list as well in the main post.

 

Are AMD drivers sorted out now (supposedly)? I heard they were a bit flakey the last time I checked.

 

Can you borrow a different GPU for testing? What OS are you running?

I do not think they are. I updated to both the latest stable and beta drivers for testing, and while performance surely was better, I returned to having the frequent PC crashes thanks to Crimson. I reverted to Catalyst for now, until this issue gets sorted, since it seems its quite common, especially with the R9 285/380 GPUs.

 

I cannot, sadly. I'm the only person who has a gaming capable PC, let alone a GPU for a five-mile radius approximately. Most people where I live prefer the consoles, and their PCs are laptops most of the time, or very outdated PCs. I am running Windows 10, fully updated. I was willing to revert to Win7, but I just have too much data and programs to perform a clean install. Mostly, I don't want to spend another 3+ weeks re-downloading all my games from Steam (5mb connection FTW!)

Edited January 21, 2016 by Inquisitor956

[Fonger]

you know where you are gonna crash - so go there and make a strategic save

 

then try

 

disabling all your mods - does it still crash

 

dramatically lowering your video settings - does it still crash

 

wing it from there

[Inquisitor956]

you know where you are gonna crash - so go there and make a strategic save

 

then try

 

disabling all your mods - does it still crash

 

dramatically lowering your video settings - does it still crash

 

wing it from there

Thank you for your suggestion!

 

I went ahead and tried this. The end results are the same: the PC crashes. It seems this crash at BADTFL Offices is one of those bugged areas that hasn't been fixed by Bethesda yet. I went to Monsignor Plaza and played smoothly without any crashing, before the patches it also crashed there.

 

One thing I did notice though, the crashes happened much sooner if I entered the offices in Power Armor. As soon as it loaded, I walked through the first door and I crashed almost every single time. Without PA, I could explore for a few minutes before crashing.

 

I managed to complete the quest by quick-saving a bunch, as soon as I got the kidnapped NPC out of the area, it was smooth sailing from there. I do fear having to return there for one of the companion's special side quests. Perhaps I'll delay doing said quest until it is patched.

[tomomi1922]

Where is BADTFL Offices? Crashes like that I would blame save corruption. This is why, messing with mods, I haven't been able to progress in the game. Mostly spending time fixing mods than playing.

You have ConcealedArmor? I read that it has been buggy with a lot of people in Posts responding with problems. That's why I didnt get it. I know why it is good: make invisible armors so you (or companions) can wear certain outfits that otherwise look ridiculous with armors on. I use Craftable Combat Armor by Endormoon. It can make Combat Armors invisible, and in most cases, they do well to be good protection, and since they are invisible, why care what armors look like?

Your screenshots suggests corruption within the graphic pipeline. First I thought it would be bad downloads from mods. But now I think the textures get corrupted somewhere in the pipeline (that has to do with the game AND your graphic card). If this is the case, it has nothing to do with game crashes. Graphic glitch doesnt crash the game.

Still can't believe you only have 47 mod files. I have over 200.

[Fonger]

 

I managed to complete the quest by quick-saving a bunch

 

bethesda is notorious for quick save corruption

 

never use them in any game

[Inquisitor956]

Where is BADTFL Offices? Crashes like that I would blame save corruption. This is why, messing with mods, I haven't been able to progress in the game. Mostly spending time fixing mods than playing.

 

You have ConcealedArmor? I read that it has been buggy with a lot of people in Posts responding with problems. That's why I didnt get it. I know why it is good: make invisible armors so you (or companions) can wear certain outfits that otherwise look ridiculous with armors on. I use Craftable Combat Armor by Endormoon. It can make Combat Armors invisible, and in most cases, they do well to be good protection, and since they are invisible, why care what armors look like?

 

Your screenshots suggests corruption within the graphic pipeline. First I thought it would be bad downloads from mods. But now I think the textures get corrupted somewhere in the pipeline (that has to do with the game AND your graphic card). If this is the case, it has nothing to do with game crashes. Graphic glitch doesnt crash the game.

 

Still can't believe you only have 47 mod files. I have over 200.

It is located northwest of Bunker Hill.

 

Well, it is to be expected. The CK hasn't been released yet so most mods are somewhat buggy. The only reason I installed concealed armor was for this specific playthrough so I can have no visible armor and retain vanilla clothing appearance, particularly with Maxson's Battlecoat and the drifter outfit. I will try that mod though, thanks for letting me know!

 

I guessed it was some sort of hardware+software issue. I just have to wait to see if it gets patched in the future. Yesterday I played for a few hours before it happened. It is seriously annoying having to restart the game to fix this.

 

That may change soon. Considering I'm very careful not to ruin my game's installation and stability. When the CK gets released and proper mods start pouring out, then well see! Also, most mods that are getting released don't interest me. I just use mods that improve the gameplay and help me get immersed.

 

 

 

I managed to complete the quest by quick-saving a bunch

 

bethesda is notorious for quick save corruption

 

never use them in any game

 

Unfortunately quick save is a must for me. As much as I would like a better option for saving my game quickly, there is yet one to be seen. If there were a timed auto-save option that replaces, or worked in conjunction with the other auto-save options I would gladly use that.