Obama releases long form BC

[Kendo 2]

Fair enough Marharth. Maybe we can save that for its own debate. :thumbsup:

[marharth]

Fair enough Marharth. Maybe we can save that for its own debate. :thumbsup:

Yea I have been going way off topic :P

 

Also something to add to this, the natural born citizen clause is what the birthers are using now.

 

I thought that is if your born on USA soil, I wasn't aware your parents had to be US citizens as well...

[Lisnpuppy]

This one is so far off topic I think you might as well change the title of the thread. Or someone start some new ones....I may like to dip my toe into one or another of these pools.

 

EDIT: Oh Kendo...from a historical perspective (and I got a shiny degree to dust off for you *wink*) she is right. Nazis are considered the farthest right you can go...while as most do not like to admit this either...The Communist are the farthest LEFT you can go.

 

Here we thought it was Jerry Falwell and Gloria Steinem :biggrin:

[WizardOfAtlantis]

Reasonable people never questioned it.

That's simply not true. One of the first men with *some* social position pushing the whole thing was an ex-deputy attorney general of (I think) Pennsylvania, so right there you're talking about someone familiar with law, to say the least.

As I understand it, he was supposed to show it when he ran as a nominee, but he didn't. Should that be a surprise that someone actually didn't check to see if the paperwork was in order? Of course not. Lawmakers (as in politicians, senators, etc) don't always read the laws that they vote on, and even at times rely on other people to tell them *what's up* and they take it from there (and on one small level, I know this for fact because I did it myself working for a senator in Illinois many many moons ago).

It might very well be terribly easy to get away with something like that...after all, IT"S OBVIOUS that someone checked, isn't it?...http://www.thenexusforums.com/public/style_emoticons/dark/rolleyes.gif

 

 

[Lisnpuppy]

Reasonable people never questioned it.

That's simply not true. One of the first men with *some* social position pushing the whole thing was an ex-deputy attorney general of (I think) Pennsylvania, so right there you're talking about someone familiar with law, to say the least.

As I understand it, he was supposed to show it when he ran as a nominee, but he didn't. Should that be a surprise that someone actually didn't check to see if the paperwork was in order? Of course not. Lawmakers (as in politicians, senators, etc) don't always read the laws that they vote on, and even at times rely on other people to tell them *what's up* and they take it from there (and on one small level, I know this for fact because I did it myself working for a senator in Illinois many many moons ago).

It might very well be terribly easy to get away with something like that...after all, IT"S OBVIOUS that someone checked, isn't it?...http://www.thenexusforums.com/public/style_emoticons/dark/rolleyes.gif

 

 

 

You have to present documents when you sign up to run for office...unless its forged it is not something someone would assume had been checked already.

[marharth]

Reasonable people never questioned it.

That's simply not true. One of the first men with *some* social position pushing the whole thing was an ex-deputy attorney general of (I think) Pennsylvania, so right there you're talking about someone familiar with law, to say the least.

As I understand it, he was supposed to show it when he ran as a nominee, but he didn't. Should that be a surprise that someone actually didn't check to see if the paperwork was in order? Of course not. Lawmakers (as in politicians, senators, etc) don't always read the laws that they vote on, and even at times rely on other people to tell them *what's up* and they take it from there (and on one small level, I know this for fact because I did it myself working for a senator in Illinois many many moons ago).

It might very well be terribly easy to get away with something like that...after all, IT"S OBVIOUS that someone checked, isn't it?...http://www.thenexusforums.com/public/style_emoticons/dark/rolleyes.gif

brb, running for president and saying I meet requirements.

 

They will clearly not check me at all since they are law makers.

 

Does anyone seriously think a single man can trick a entire country and basically have the power to do more then any other countries military can do against our national defense?

 

I am sure the president has to go through very extreme background checks, if not that would be insane.

 

Maybe I am missing what your saying, but it seems to me like your saying its not unreasonable to think Obama is not fit to be president.

 

You also have to remember he was a senator before all this.

[greywaste]

Here's a few more who've had eligibility questioned :

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_Born_Citizen_Clause#Eligibility_challenges

[Kendo 2]

OH-HO-HO! The truth comes out now.

 

Good link, greywaste.

 

kudos

[ginnyfizz]

I suspect that it is no coincidence that His Holiness Obama has whipped out his BC shortly after Standard and Poors issued a less than favourable report on the US economy and warned of a possible downgrade to the USA's prized AAA rating. He IS trying to deceive his country, by making a smokescreen with this BC lark.

 

@Lisnpuppy, great though my respect for you is, the term Nazi party really is short for Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei - National Socialist German Workers Party. It is too much of a generalisation to say that Nazism represents the far right, for it did rely on massive state interference and huge regulation of individual freedom, as well as other highly socialist concepts, with rabid racism thrown in. It is also quite true to say that Uncle Joe was every bit as much an anti Semite as the appalling Adolf.

 

*Here ends the off topic paragraph...*

[marharth]

I suspect that it is no coincidence that His Holiness Obama has whipped out his BC shortly after Standard and Poors issued a less than favourable report on the US economy and warned of a possible downgrade to the USA's prized AAA rating. He IS trying to deceive his country, by making a smokescreen with this BC lark.

 

@Lisnpuppy, great though my respect for you is, the term Nazi party really is short for Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei - National Socialist German Workers Party. It is too much of a generalisation to say that Nazism represents the far right, for it did rely on massive state interference and huge regulation of individual freedom, as well as other highly socialist concepts, with rabid racism thrown in. It is also quite true to say that Uncle Joe was every bit as much an anti Semite as the appalling Adolf.

 

*Here ends the off topic paragraph...*

Does anyone care about a report on the economy and a AAA rating?

 

Everyone knows the economy sucks, that would be news for 10 minutes.

 

It is not left wing invade in freedom, that is just authoritarian. The far right does not = Super freedom and the far left does not = Super government.

 

The whole nazi thing is for another debate.