Obama releases long form BC

[Lisnpuppy]

I suspect that it is no coincidence that His Holiness Obama has whipped out his BC shortly after Standard and Poors issued a less than favourable report on the US economy and warned of a possible downgrade to the USA's prized AAA rating. He IS trying to deceive his country, by making a smokescreen with this BC lark.

 

@Lisnpuppy, great though my respect for you is, the term Nazi party really is short for Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei - National Socialist German Workers Party. It is too much of a generalisation to say that Nazism represents the far right, for it did rely on massive state interference and huge regulation of individual freedom, as well as other highly socialist concepts, with rabid racism thrown in. It is also quite true to say that Uncle Joe was every bit as much an anti Semite as the appalling Adolf.

 

*Here ends the off topic paragraph...*

 

((gosh we need another thread----Right back at you GInny for the respect. However this is as historians agree and if you look at it....the far extremes of either direction begin to look the same as the powers that be end up controlling or forcing their views upon the masses. I am not saying every definition fits every single act or time period....However is is well agreed that Hitler used the idea of socialist programs to gain power and entrance himself to the German people. I calls 'em like I sees 'em, Darlin' *grin and hug*))

[csgators]

For the record as the OP, I personally think threads are often more fun when they go off topic. I realize many don't share that view. Great posts everyone, I love the link greywaste provided.

[WizardOfAtlantis]

You have to present documents when you sign up to run for office...unless its forged it is not something someone would assume had been checked already.

In this case, it might be. After all, he was previously a senator, if you get my drift... See? That's actually the power of the trick, if trick it is in this case. Everybody Always Thinks that Obviously Someone's Already Checked...ha!http://www.thenexusforums.com/public/style_emoticons/dark/biggrin.gif Seriously, though, there's been a great deal of talk about fakes. Entire sites of it. Who knows? I don't.

 

 

Does anyone seriously think a single man can trick a entire country and basically have the power to do more then any other countries military can do against our national defense?

 

I am sure the president has to go through very extreme background checks, if not that would be insane.

 

Maybe I am missing what your saying, but it seems to me like your saying its not unreasonable to think Obama is not fit to be president.

 

You also have to remember he was a senator before all this.

Obviously it's not a "single man" doing anything, and you don't have to trick an entire country. Those are tremendous exaggerations to belittle a point, and exactly how something like this could work if it were put in motion. You're not even examining the issue, are you, with a clear mind? It's already obfuscated.

 

Brass tacks: How many different people actually look at the birth certificate when it's presented at the very beginning of the race, that *first* time? I don't know but I bet you could count them on one hand, and have fingers to spare. It's probably the job of "a" person as a formal technicality to "get the ball rolling".

 

You would need *some* help in tricking a few people, especially if that document he's finally pulled out is a fake...a "real" fake, if you see what I mean. And none of this is unreasonable at all, if people with legitimate degrees (ex-deputy Attorney General of a state) make legitimate notifications ("hey, he skipped a step") and it only gets looked at after years of said deputy attorney general (et al) taking it to court. You have to take qualified people at their word at first and actually look into things.

 

I'm not saying it's true, but it's certainly reasonable. And more than possible to pull off. All it would take is a stack of dated birth certificates with the right stamp on them in someone's lair. Hells bells, the mafia could pull that trick off, let alone someone with invested power in "the Machine" or whatever.

 

Example: I remember hearing that Obama had received a scholarship from some organization with monetary ties linkable to the Bush family. Who says he's not some pawn of the Saudis via Bush via dot*dot*dot, put there in office to put the country into staggering debt while waging war on all of Saudi Arabia's business and/or regional competitors, paving the way for an even stronger situation where the US is a bought pawn for some foreign power?

 

You think I can think these things up and others with vested interests in the World Scene can't? http://www.thenexusforums.com/public/style_emoticons/dark/no.gif

[Lisnpuppy]

It is my understanding these documents have to be presented each time a candidate runs for elected office.

 

Not just the first time...each time.

 

If I can find it I will link it, but good luck.

 

However...he would have given it to the electoral official in charge, county commissioner, judicial person, whatever. He was in no was obligated to share his birth certificate with an entire country. Would it have shut up everyone..probably but they would just moved on to something equally as useless to the running of our Nation.

[Aurielius]

It is my understanding these documents have to be presented each time a candidate runs for elected office.

Not just the first time...each time.

If I can find it I will link it, but good luck.

However...he would have given it to the electoral official in charge, county commissioner, judicial person, whatever. He was in no was obligated to share his birth certificate with an entire country. Would it have shut up everyone..probably but they would just moved on to something equally as useless to the running of our Nation.

Given Chicago's fine political reputation for not ballot stuffing, or the dead voting, or twice the votes cast as there are registered voters..I am sure you are correct. I mean, we all know that Illinois is not known for it's political machine machinations.

[csgators]

For anyone wondering what conspiracy theories are arising from the new BC.

 

Note: I am not endorsing any conspiracy just posting what is being said.

 

Any of our UK friends want to enlighten us on what name modern day Kenya was referred to under British control in 1961? I have heard it was know simply as British East Africa but not by any source I trust.

Edited April 28, 2011 by csgators

[ginnyfizz]

Does anyone care about a report on the economy and a AAA rating?

 

Everyone knows the economy sucks, that would be news for 10 minutes.

 

 

*Facepalms*

 

Bejasus, you must be even more naive than I thought if you think being slammed by Standard and Poors and facing the loss of your AAA rating really doesn't matter. It basically means that the USA is in really, really deep doodoo and that none of the international financial community think Obama is doing anything about it. When your credit rating drops, so does your ability to borrow money. It happens to individuals (and boy, should I know all about that!), and it also happens to countries. Even the richest nations borrow money on the international market to finance their programmes. So if Obama carries on the way he does and the AAA rating is downgraded, the US economy will tank even more, he will not be able to afford any of his schemes anyway. Look at what is happening to Greece, Spain and Portugal, and Ireland. The only reason they are still afloat after downgrading is that the other members of the EU (mainly Germany and the UK) have been compelled to bail them out. The UK were threatened with the loss of their AAA rating, but the markets approve of the Conservative government taking the axe to public spending.

 

@csgators, Kenya has always been known as Kenya, speaking as a Brit who was born in 1961 myself.

[WizardOfAtlantis]

However...he would have given it to the electoral official in charge, county commissioner, judicial person, whatever. He was in no was obligated to share his birth certificate with an entire country. Would it have shut up everyone..probably but they would just moved on to something equally as useless to the running of our Nation.

Very true, he shouldn't have had to show it to everybody as if everybody's opinion mattered. It doesn't, of course. However, it seems this whole thing was created because he didn't show it to a select few at some opportune moment, which means he or those behind him created this problem to begin with OR they got, more or less, caught out.

 

I personally find it fishy that this problem exists at all, that he didn't follow the rules to begin with, and I don't think it's because he's a secret Muslim or part Black or whatever. Possible, but...I don't know.

 

Generally speaking, in the "real world", something stinks because there actually is something rotten. Somewhere. Smoke does tend to lead to fire. Now, that's not to justify all wacky "conspiracy" claims as to the truth of what they claim...but smoke does come from a fire, just not perhaps the fire that one expects. Fire there is, usually, however.

 

Why him? Why didn't he do what he was supposed to do to begin with? The fact that he does it now doesn't alter the fact that he didn't then and has to now, because of that fact. The fact that he's sort of Black is a shield, if need be. The same goes for his Arabic name. Those are great smoke screens for future liabilities, as to what regards perceived public perceptions and the cards that can be played against those cards.http://www.thenexusforums.com/public/style_emoticons/dark/pirate.gif

[Harbringe]

Any of our UK friends want to enlighten us on what name modern day Kenya was referred to under British control in 1961? I have heard it was know simply as British East Africa but not by any source I trust.

 

That would be correct Csgator ,its current name was derived from either the person who led the struggle for independence from colonial rule Jomo Kenyatta and was its first President or its etymology.Which is.

 

The word Kenya', /ˈkɛnjə/, originates from the Kikuyu, Embu and Kamba names for Mount Kenya, "Kirinyaga", "Kirinyaa" and "Kiinyaa". The English meaning of the words, in all three languages, is "place with ostriches" – in reference to the black and white plumage of male ostriches. When viewed from a distance the snow-capped peak of the mountain is like the white feathers of a male ostrich. Prehistoric volcanic eruptions of Mount Kenya (now extinct) may have resulted in its association with divinity and creation among the indigenous Kikuyu-related ethic groups who are the original native inhabitants of the vast agricultural land surrounding Mount Kenya.

[csgators]

Any of our UK friends want to enlighten us on what name modern day Kenya was referred to under British control in 1961? I have heard it was know simply as British East Africa but not by any source I trust.

 

That would be correct Csgator ,its current name was derived from either the person who led the struggle for independence from colonial rule Jomo Kenyatta and was its first President or its etymology.Which is.

 

The word Kenya', /ˈkɛnjə/, originates from the Kikuyu, Embu and Kamba names for Mount Kenya, "Kirinyaga", "Kirinyaa" and "Kiinyaa". The English meaning of the words, in all three languages, is "place with ostriches" – in reference to the black and white plumage of male ostriches. When viewed from a distance the snow-capped peak of the mountain is like the white feathers of a male ostrich. Prehistoric volcanic eruptions of Mount Kenya (now extinct) may have resulted in its association with divinity and creation among the indigenous Kikuyu-related ethic groups who are the original native inhabitants of the vast agricultural land surrounding Mount Kenya.

 

Makes you wonder how his fathers place of origin is Kenya rather than British East Africa or simply East Africa.