Deleted4610270User Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 can still not download from this sitehttps://yadi.sk/d/haZ_PZwOpsCXohttps://yadi.sk/d/Ph5iot80psCXPi have try upgrade my chrome and firefox. Download will not respond can anyone reup somewhere else? and pm me ty nwm it fixed now Do you check if you have Fallout 4 bugs in general? If you don't, do you just skip patches? This is absurd. Why do you think there's a CHANGE tab that modders can use? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted4610270User Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 (edited) I think you are wrong. Like I said, when Bethesda releases patches, do you not care for downloading them or at least checking out the bugs new patches fixed? By your logic, unless one experiences problems with the game, one should not bother updating or checking out release notes for whichever update. This is also why Mod Pages have a "Changes" section, which can either be vague or detailed. Obviously we can't expect the same level of details from mod-makers because unlike Bethesda, they don't owe us anything, but plenty of modders release detailed notes... Modding is hard and I bet Neanka doesn't get nearly as many complains as other modders, who keep going regardless....how on earth does that follow?The problem here is that if you ran into any problems, you had all the tools you needed to fix them yourself. But you couldn't be bothered to even check if there were problems. The saddest part in all of this is the person can't even see the reason that Neanka quit, while being one of the reasons why Neanka quit right here in this thread First of all, do you think Neanka is the only modder out there who receives countless complaints? It comes with the territory. I bet Valdacil's mod receives way more complaints than Neanka's mod and he (she?) isn't quitting and in fact, now hosting Neanka's mod, which will probably get him even more complaints. Do you know how many complaints Bethesda gets? Sure, Bethesda gets paid, while modders, do not, but they do the same type of work. Listening to complaints is a part of releasing mods or software to the public. Did his mod not get a lot of endorsements and downloads? That alone should've pointed out all the positive feedback, which, IMHO, over-shadowed the number of complaints received.I TRULY appreciate Neanka's work and I think his mod is absolutely crucial to having great Fallout 4 experience, but I also think quitting his mod was a quitter decision, a sign of weakness. I am not saying this to offend him (her?), but to point out that this world isn't fair. I don't know about you, but as a business analyst I communicate with a lot of people, most of which are educated and intelligent, but guess what? They often don't read my e-mails all the way and ask questions I've already answered! If someone has already read the Mod Description main page, then they won't bother to re-read it again after it has been edited. Why would they? They would look for Changes tab to see the difference. Change tab would also be a much better place to provide info on possible bugs and how to avoid them instead of the main Description page that nobody reads! If I were to act like Neanka and respond the same way, I'd be fired 100 times by now. Again, I get PAID and Neanka doesn't, but mod making is equivalent to volunteering. Just because you volunteer doesn't mean its OK to get pissed off because you're sort of doing people a favor. I don't see public mod releases as favors, but as quality content offered for free, which can further lead to donations who knows what. EDIT: Why can't SkyUI from Skyrim be ported onto Fallout 4 with appropriate changes for Fallout 4??? Will that require GECK? Edited March 11, 2016 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freso Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 It comes with the territory.And Neanka found this out and decided he didn't want part of that territory. Stop feeling entitled. End of discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoliteRaider Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 I don't see public mod releases as favors, but as quality content offered for free, which can further lead to donations who knows what. I'm sorry if this is a harsh way of putting this but why does how you see mod releases matter? A modder might choose to give away their time to others for many reasons and it's their own personal reasons that will matter to their choice of continuing to do so or not. All you can do as an end mod user is choose how you'll respond to those people to express your gratitude and motivate their continued efforts. You have apparently decided that insulting them and calling them weak is a fair response to their time and effort creating a mod that you clearly appreciate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuJooGuppy Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 You are feeling incredibly entitled here, MonarchX, when in reality you are not. Yes, you would be fired if you got sick of everyones stupidity and acted accordingly. That's great. This is NOT a job. He (and every other mod author) are NOT under ANY obligation to even respond to your questions, at all. They are not under any obligation to upload or update their mod. They are not obligated to do a damned thing. Mod authors often set out to make mods for themselves, but decide to share to see if others will enjoy their content.He can simply quit whenever he wants, plain and simple. If I had a bunch of people acting that way towards me, I would block them and move along. If I had someone like you acting like I owed you anything at all, especially after I had posted stating I was moving on due to this exact type of issue, I would ban you from my files instantly. Its rude.I don't like calling people out directly, but your childish sense of entitlement is really pissing me off. Its completely against the nature of modding and its community, and its sad that a lot of authors drift away from it from being sick of people. I have seen far worse than you, to be sure. And I am not saying you are the cause of everything. But your attitude is wrong, sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Descivii Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 (edited) Not only are mod authors under no (0, none, nada) obligation but they lose nothing by taking their ball and going home; however, they do lose when they keep doing something they are no longer enjoying. Mod users on the other hand lose out on a mod and sometimes very good ones at that. The loading screen tells you flat out; "Show people respect or suffer the consequences" Edited March 12, 2016 by Descivii Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTalkieToaster Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 I also think quitting his mod was a quitter decision, a sign of weakness.A sign of weakness: Turning your back on people who disrespect you and doing what you want, not what they demand. A sign of strength: Spending your free time doing work you don't enjoy for people you dislike because it'd upset them if you stopped. Plus c'mon talking about 'weakness'? Who are you, Donald Trump? Or just someone else with a big ego and tiny hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minngarm Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 https://youtu.be/kQFKtI6gn9Y Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilkandeekid Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 Plus c'mon talking about 'weakness'? Who are you, Donald Trump? Or just someone else with a big ego and tiny hands. Im like 85% sure he is. Says endorsements show support and how I TRULY appreciate Neanka's work and I think his mod is absolutely crucial to having great Fallout 4 experience - profile shows only endorsed 5 mods 2 years ago... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chucksteel Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 (edited) I for one am getting really tired of reading all these posts from weak, whiny, lazy, elitist mod Authors who don't seem to understand how much effort actually goes into clicking the "Endorsement" button!!!!!! All you do is complain about fulfilling simple requests that would no doughtily improve your mods, shoot them up into the "Hot Files" and probably make them win "File of the Month" for the next six months! I mean you can't even be bothered to give simple support to mod users and just tell them to read the Read-Me! Do you have any clue how much time it will take for the mod user to do that? I will not be endorsing any mods or mod authors unless they provide the following! 24/7 mod tech support via Steam chat or Skype! provide a video tutorial on how to install the mod! in the event I'm still having issues with the mod you must come and install/trouble shoot it for me! You must make any changes to the mod I want the moment I want them! What many of you weak, whiny, lazy, elitist mod Authors don't seem to understand is that Mod users use mods for fun and not to stroke your egos! We use your mods to improve our games not to READ or have issues because we DIDN'T want to READ! We don't have to Endorse your mods or even use them! It's a privilege for you to receive our endorsements and we can take them away at any time if you don't comply with what mod users want! Now do you see what many mod users sound like to us mod authors? :rolleyes: Edited March 13, 2016 by chucksteel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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