Fallout 4 Beginners Guide

[EldritchEquations]

Nup, crashed again at that same spot. Messed around with my load order a bit, didn't add or take anything away just tried adjusting placement of some stuff, but same result.

I install them all in small groups of categories, and a good deal of them are things I've used successfully in the past. So I'm starting to think it's A) something I'm not as familiar with the stability of, and/or B) a conflict between two and not any one mod being a problem but the combination of them together. And what I have in spades right now that I haven't had much of in the past is adjustments to NPC dialogue. Like, five or six of them I think. The order could be wrong, or it could just be too many of them.

After the last suggestion from NaiRae to check all my Diamond City mods, I loaded up JUST the mods that edit or add anything including NPCs to Diamond City, and it didn't crash. Maybe some sort of dialogue conflict is happening when I enter the city. I'm guessing but I can appreciate a lead, even if only a random feeling, because it's far preferable to having NO idea what to even try next. XD

[EldritchEquations]

I honestly don't even know wtf. I disabled everything and I've been going through enabling mods one at a time, loading in, going to Diamond City, saving, closing, and reloading. Anytime it crashed with a mod enabled, I just took it off. But it KEEPS happening. I've gone from 200 to half that. I yeet something off the list because I enable it and it either crashes or fails to load DC after the save, and then it happens again. But this is such a small list at this point, of things I've used before on this PC, and never had a problem. I've started fresh several times now. I don't know what else to do.

 

 

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0 0 Fallout4.esm
1 1 DLCRobot.esm
2 2 DLCworkshop01.esm
3 3 DLCCoast.esm
4 4 DLCworkshop02.esm
5 5 DLCworkshop03.esm
6 6 DLCNukaWorld.esm
7 7 Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp
8 8 ArmorKeywords.esm
9 9 HUDFramework.esm
10 a DEF_WIDGETS_CORE.esm
254 FE 0 GCM_DLC_Automatron.esl
254 FE 1 GCM_DLC_Far_Harbor.esl
254 FE 2 HoloDisplay.esl
254 FE 3 IDEKsLogisticsStation2.esl
11 b WorkshopFramework.esm
12 c SimSettlements.esm
254 FE 4 UitFJ.esl
13 d dinoshelf.esp
14 e SettlementMenuManager.esp
15 f GCM.esp
16 10 ValdacilsItemSorting-00-ValsPicks-DLCVersion-VanillaWeight.esp
17 11 LooksMenu.esp
18 12 SCM.esp
19 13 DEF_WIDGETS_SURVIVAL1.esp
20 14 LooksMirror.esp
21 15 GrafsSecurityFences.esp
22 16 Sandbag Fortifications - Version 2C.esp
23 17 BuildableBurningCampfires.esp
24 18 SettlementPrivacy.esp
25 19 woodysWastelandStuff.esp
26 1a NWM_House.esp
27 1b g2m_Workshop_Nexus.esp
28 1c ScavversSettlementKit.esp
29 1d V's Scavver Art.esp
30 1e V's Community Art.esp
31 1f Housekeeping.esp
254 FE 5 Sandbag Fortifications - Version 2C SMM.esp
32 20 Thematic and Practical.esp
33 21 Thematic and Practical - DLC.esp
254 FE 6 HoloDisplay SMM.esp
254 FE 7 ScavversSettlementKit SMM.esp
34 22 VaultPlus.esp
35 23 VaultPlus_Railings.esp
36 24 MoreVaultRooms.esp
37 25 VaultPlusUnlocked.esp
38 26 VaultPlus_MVR.esp
39 27 VaultPlus_MVRUnlocked.esp
40 28 IndustrialCity_Sim_Settlements_Addon.esp
41 29 ohSIM_Sim_Settlements_Scrappers_Addon.esp
42 2a CMPA +300.esp
43 2b QuickTrade.esp
44 2c NPCGreetingTweak90.esp
45 2d No Legendary Items From Creatures.esp
46 2e PlayerComments.esp
47 2f Unofficial Fallout 4 FDI Patch.esp
48 30 DV-Deadly Vertibirds.esp
49 31 DV-Armored Pilots.esp
50 32 DV-No Levelled Vertibirds.esp
51 33 Marmo1233 - Immersive Settlers.esp
52 34 3DNPC_FO4.esp
53 35 ChoiceChopped.esp
54 36 PipPong.esp
55 37 ChoiceChopped VIS patch.esp
56 38 NaiHancock.esp
57 39 NaiGoodneighbor.esp
58 3a Eli_Faction Housing Overhaul - V81.esp
59 3b People have a name.esp
60 3c DiamondNewVendors.esp
61 3d 3DNPC_FO4_DLC.esp
62 3e RecruitableSettlers.esp
63 3f W.A.T.Minutemen.esp
64 40 DCGuard_Overhaul.esp
65 41 AnotherBrickInTheWall.esp
66 42 The Sanctuary Bridge.esp
67 43 Diverse Cats.esp
68 44 AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
69 45 FriendlyEasyCityDowns.esp
70 46 3DNPC_FO4Settler.esp
71 47 RecruitableSettlersFH.esp
72 48 No Boy and His Dog.esp
73 49 FO4 NPCs Travel.esp
74 4a WVSimSAddon.esp
75 4b BostonAirport_WorkshopFix.esp
76 4c Northland Diggers New.esp
77 4d SimSettlements_AddOnPack_AwsomeTown.esp
78 4e SimSettlements_AddOnPack_Defences_Brae.esp
79 4f TrailerParkDreams.esp
80 50 SimHomestead.esp
81 51 JunkTown.esp
82 52 DownTime_SimSettlements_Addon_Des.esp
83 53 ruined_simsettlement_addonpack.esp
84 54 ruined_simsettlement_patch_VIS.esp
85 55 home_improvement_all.esp
86 56 creativeclutter.esp
87 57 NaiRaeCozyScavver.esp
88 58 BasementLiving.esp
89 59 SimSettlements_MegaPack_YearThree.esp
254 FE 8 SimSettlements_XPAC_RiseOfTheCommonwealth.esp
90 5a Altairp's Animal Farm.esp
91 5b VISify Altairp's Animal Farm.esp
254 FE 9 WVSimSAddonAIO_Previews.esp
92 5c PlayerComments_3DNPC_FO4_Patch.esp
93 5d PlayerComments_UFO4P_Patch.esp
94 5e AFT_Hotkey_Recipes.esp
95 5f AFT_Use_Original_Spouse.esp
96 60 NoFeralGhoulDoorOpening.esp
97 61 SkjAlert_All_DLC.esp
98 62 AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp
99 63 Lots More Female Hairstyles.esp
100 64 Lots More Male Hairstyles.esp
101 65 Lots More Facial Hair.esp
102 66 Eli_Gage Overhaul.esp
103 67 UniquePlayer.esp
254 FE a ArcadeTerminals.esp
104 68 Pip-Pong ArcadeTerminal.esp
254 FE b Arcade Terminals SMM.esp
105 69 Scrap Everything - Ultimate Edition.esp
106 6a Stm_DiamondCityExpansion.esp
107 6b Stm_DiamondCityExpansion_x_LowerVolume.esp
108 6c TrainBar.esp
254 FE c Bashed Patch, 0.esp

 

Edited February 27, 2021 by EldritchEquations

[JimmyRJump]

Start by eliminating (uninstalling, not simply disabling) everything Diamond City related, like the DC-Guard overhaul and DC Vendors thing and the Diamond City Expansion mods.

 

Elianora's Faction Housing overhaul can be a problem when other mods alter the faction head-quarters, including clothing that affects the factions. Anything SIM-settlement related is a potential hazard.

 

Here's my current load order. 462 plugins

 

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Fallout4.esm=1

DLCRobot.esm=1

DLCworkshop01.esm=1

DLCCoast.esm=1

DLCworkshop02.esm=1

DLCworkshop03.esm=1

DLCNukaWorld.esm=1

Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp=1

SettlementKeywords.esm=1

Homemaker.esm=1

EthreonMasterPlan.esm=1

SpringCleaning.esm=1

Damage Threshold.esm=1

ArmorKeywords.esm=1

DDClean.esl=1

The Castle.esl=1

NAC.esm=1

Vault111LOD.esl=1

JamaicaPlainPathing.esm=1

GrassBlocks.esl=1

EsmeraldaColourfulRugsSet.esl=1

Grim ZeroTwo.esl=1

Diamond City HD.esl=1

Reptilic_DeathClaws_4K.esl=1

EsmeraldaAtomicBarAndStools.esl=1

EsmeraldaPrefabMCMHouses.esl=1

JazzPosters.esl=1

BoardGames.esl=1

FaceLight.esl=1

Glowing_X-01_Quantum.esl=1

Interior - Buildings and Industrial HD.esl=1

BuildingBlocks.esm=1

EsmeraldaCouchAndChairRecolourSet.esl=1

Esmeralda4NewDiamondCityRadios.esl=1

HUDFramework.esm=1

Reverse Combat Armor.esl=1

Quintessential Quarries.esl=1

CBBE.esp=1

LooksMenu.esp=1

ASOAstinsSkinOverlays(Blk).esp=1

ImprovedSkin.esp=1

Homemaker - Greenhouse and Bunker Disabler.esp=1

The Eyes Of Beauty.esp=1

TheEyesOfBeauty.esp=1

KSHairdos_oel.esp=1

AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp=1

5x XP for Kills.esp=1

GodGun.esp=1

Unlimited SPECIAL.esp=1

clearthecommonwealth.esp=1

ConfigurablePowerArmor.esp=1

jump150.esp=1

LongerPowerLines3x.esp=1

UncappedSettlementSurplus.esp=1

LooksMenu Customization Compendium.esp=1

Settlement Aid Program EASY.esp=1

DD_1x1_Foundation_Blocks.esp=1

AA Faster Terminals.esp=1

ASA.esp=1

AdvSettleTurretSet.esp=1

AlternateSettlements.esp=1

woodysWastelandStuff.esp=1

SLR.esp=1

DOOMSettlementStuff.esp=1

Better Vendor Stalls.esp=1

Clean Water - Clear.esp=1

Craftable_Birch_Trees.esp=1

Craftable_Blossom_Trees.esp=1

Grasslands - Healthy.esp=1

Vivid Fallout - All in One - 2k.esp=1

DD_All_the_COncrete.esp=1

StainsStructures.esp=1

SPECIAL-070.esp=1

SC_ExpandedScrapList.esp=1

Ballistic Weave Buff.esp=1

Any Armour on Any Clothes - Legendary Edition.esp=1

CCOVulgarVillainsReplacer.esp=1

2pacSkimpy.esp=1

KSHairdos.esp=1

TransferSettlements.esp=1

BetterSettlersNoLollygagging.esp=1

Enough About the Settlements Preston.esp=1

Lots More Facial Hair.esp=1

Lots More Female Hairstyles.esp=1

Lots More Male Hairstyles.esp=1

PD_LowerWeapon.esp=1

LongRangeBulletHoles.esp=1

ShellRain.esp=1

AkaMoveYourWorkbench.esp=1

Buildable_PAFrames.esp=1

Better Calibrated Shocks (250).esp=1

Buildable_PAFrames_Recipe.esp=1

le666piercings.esp=1

UNnaked Power Armor.esp=1

N7X1GPA.esp=1

N7 X1PowerArmor.esp=1

No Aggro Impact Landing.esp=1

PowerArmorJumpUpgrade.esp=1

PowerArmorEnhancements.esp=1

UnrestrictivePowerArmor.esp=1

TDS_PA_WWII_Camo_Paints_Clean.esp=1

Simple Yellow Forklift.esp=1

DX Courser X-92 Power Suit.esp=1

V's Community Art.esp=1

V's Scavver Art.esp=1

V's Stylish Decor2.esp=1

Canopies.esp=1

YM_CashRegister.esp=1

MTM-ConstructionLights.esp=1

CREAtiveGardens.esp=1

g2m_Workshop_Nexus.esp=1

ExpandedSettlementBuildings.esp=1

CR_OuthouseCollection.esp=1

Heavens Craftable Paint Cans.esp=1

Crimsomrider's Immersive Market.esp=1

BuildableBurningCampfires.esp=1

Business Settlements.esp=1

Cozy Beds.esp=1

Cozy Beds - My Bed.esp=1

DLCLetters.esp=1

FireHydrant.esp=1

Statuary.esp=1

GreeblesAndDecorations.esp=1

Buildable Fallout 76 Watchtowers V2.esp=1

Evil Detective Outfit.esp=1

ImmersiveVendors.esp=1

HappyStores.esp=1

Light Radius Redux AIO.esp=1

Relight.esp=1

Wireless Power.esp=1

BetterGenerators.esp=1

Efficient generators - homemaker.esp=1

AWARHERO Chinese Decor Pack.esp=1

AWARHERO Japanese Decor Pack.esp=1

AWARHERO_Decor_Pack.esp=1

ButcherMeatRack.esp=1

CafePosters.esp=1

Colored Workshop Lights.esp=1

LanternBottles.esp=1

dinoshelf.esp=1

EoW_FarHarborLights.esp=1

EoW_MakeupColors.esp=1

SignsOfTheTimesCategorized.esp=1

GymPosters.esp=1

HRGiger_Paintings.esp=1

HeavensOldTimeRockandRollPaintingsDLC05.esp=1

Heaventhere Paintings.esp=1

HeaventhereVA&APaintingsDLC05.esp=1

Friffy_Fixed Rugs.esp=1

Friffy_Fixed Curtains.esp=1

LivingInterior.esp=1

Maritime Paintings.esp=1

NasaPosters.esp=1

Not Your Average Neon.esp=1

NukaVimRack.esp=1

PinkFlamingos.esp=1

PinUpRedLipstick LMCC.esp=1

Soul Survivor Reloaded.esp=1

SettleObjExpandPack.esp=1

SettleObjExpandPack-AllLightShadowEnabler.esp=1

WDP-PC.esp=1

N7-Armor-Standalone_by_Ruddy88.esp=1

NorthgirlArmorFO4.esp=1

sarahRageArmor.esp=1

NoVanillaRadiantDLCLocations.esp=1

Iroha Neon.esp=1

TERANurseUniform.esp=1

Colored Highlights CC.esp=1

TERAChunLiWig.esp=1

CiriBattleGear.esp=1

R97R Colonial Duster.esp=1

Spiff's Gravel & Dirt.esp=1

BobbleGirl.esp=1

Idiot s!@£.esp=1

TheyWantThatAss.esp=1

NoAffinityCooldown.esp=1

ETRFC.esp=1

MysticPinesRetirementSettlement.esp=1

Build High - Expanded Settlements.esp=1

RedRocketReborn.esp=1

MassFusionContainmentSettlement.esp=1

Rebsy's Greebles 1.6 SKE PC - Misc Release.esp=1

UniversityPointSettlementSPE.esp=1

BreakheartBanksSettlementSPE.esp=1

settlemods_huntressisland.esp=1

Convenient Bridges.esp=1

Warwick Homestead a Bridge to SpectacleIsland.esp=1

Fallonsv1.0.esp=1

CommonwealthChooksAndBunnies.esp=1

Reeb Marina Settlement.esp=1

HAIA With Crafting.esp=1

MurkwaterFarmSettlement.esp=1

settlemods_norwooddepot.esp=1

Eli_Armour_Compendium.esp=1

settlemods_radbgone.esp=1

BradbertonOverpassSettlement.esp=1

settlemods_edenmeadowscinemas.esp=1

Rebuilt_HomePlate.esp=1

Build High - Builder's Patch.esp=1

NX Pro - Farm Core.esp=1

Ground_Vanilla.esp=1

MostlyFemale.esp=1

BetterSettlers.esp=1

BetterSettlersCCAPack2.0.esp=1

LegendaryPAPieces.esp=1

More Power Armour Mods.esp=1

PAPJ.esp=1

Ultimate Power Armor Overhaul - FULL.esp=1

UniquePlayer.esp=1

Impervious Power Armour.esp=1

PAMAP.esp=1

Poisonresist 1.2.esp=1

More Power Armour Mods - Automatron.esp=1

Beautiful Female Enemies.esp=1

AA Lots More Settlers and Enemies.esp=1

BetterSettlersMostlyFemale.esp=1

Evangeline Preset - Glory Replacer v1.0..esp=1

Cait CBBE Standalone 1.esp=1

HotMamaNPCFarHarbor01.esp=1

Hot Mama NPCs Nuka World.esp=1

CaptivatingCompanions.esp=1

PressingPreston.esp=1

GuardPosts_IncreasedDefense_DLC6.esp=1

Nuka World Bottle Fix.esp=1

Bellwood_Workshop_Brick&Concrete.esp=1

ScrapDeadThings.esp=1

SafelyScrapCovenantAndZamonjaTurrets.esp=1

RealTroughs.esp=1

FSS_Officer.esp=1

RichMerchants.esp=1

Eli_Crafting Shiz 9000.esp=1

CeramicBathroomFixtures.esp=1

Ammo.esp=1

Siles - Connectable Electricpoles.esp=1

Evan_Crafting Goodies.esp=1

SettlementPrivacy.esp=1

rbi_pack.esp=1

ScavversSettlementKit.esp=1

SkyHigh.esp=1

DD_Power_armor_option.esp=1

Test.esp=1

Stone&MarbleWorks.esp=1

This is MY Bed (Extended).esp=1

Unicorn_Farts_And_God_Rays.esp=1

LightboxPower.esp=1

NWM_VVITCH_HAUS.esp=1

XnjguyFilledMods_AIO.esp=1

SettlementMenuManager.esp=1

An Office Fit For A Mayor.esp=1

Assaultron Ada Parts.esp=1

bTankTop.esp=1

Sneak6_Balanced.esp=1

CCOFoxyFactionsReplacer.esp=1

CCOSaucySettlersReplacer.esp=1

CC's Unique Vault Suit Boxes.esp=1

Centered camera.esp=1

BoardGames.esp=1

cartman1975_warehouse.esp=1

CleanSettlement Homemaker Greenhouses.esp=1

Companion Infinite Ammo.esp=1

spacefiddle_Follower-Stealth-Distance-Fixes.esp=1

cartman1975_concrete-glass.esp=1

870.esp=1

Covscript.esp=1

CriticalHitsOutsideofVATS.esp=1

JetPackDrain0.esp=1

PowerArmorDrain05.esp=1

EchoLakeLumber.esp=1

DaltonFarmExpanded_Full.esp=1

Deeper Thoughts - Expressive Curie.esp=1

Deliverernewreceiver.esp=1

DnxTattoos.esp=1

Edit_Abernathy.esp=1

Edit_Preston.esp=1

Elegant Hardware.esp=1

EnclaveX02.esp=1

EnclaveX02 Patch.esp=1

FactionEmblems.esp=1

FilledDinerCounters.esp=1

Ghouls Revamped.esp=1

Girls Workshop.esp=1

GW1stPersonFix.esp=1

Glowing Animals Emit Light.esp=1

Goggles on Forehead.esp=1

Grim_MaryJane.esp=1

Grim_Megamilk.esp=1

Grim_MegamilkMk2.esp=1

Grounded.esp=1

HiPolyFaces.esp=1

HushDogmeat.esp=1

IncreasedSettlerPopulation500.esp=1

IntenseENB.esp=1

LegendaryModification.esp=1

LegendaryModification - DLC Far Harbor.esp=1

LessCrapLegendaries.esp=1

LegendaryPAPieces - FarHarborPatch.esp=1

LegendaryModification2LM.esp=1

LegendaryModification - DLC Far Harbor (2LM).esp=1

LegendaryModificationMisc.esp=1

SpotlightFix-300-Shadow.esp=1

Spotlight - Bigger radius+Shadow.esp=1

MatchedFreefallLegs.esp=1

RFBMissileTargetingScope WithMesh.esp=1

Missing Vault Jumpsuits.esp=1

More Power Armour Mods - X-02.esp=1

ZIR_VendorCounters.esp=1

Move (Get Out the Way).esp=1

Multiple Floors Sandboxing.esp=1

CricketVanillaLike.esp=1

Female Tactical Armor.esp=1

JB - CasualTramp.esp=1

JB - MilitaryMommy.esp=1

NoBOSVertibirdRandomEncounters.esp=1

NoMoreRadioStationNotifications.esp=1

No More Fake Puddles - Nuka World 1-0.esp=1

NoTwigs.esp=1

NoMoreHolesNick.esp=1

PlayerHeadTracking.esp=1

SkipHSH1_6.esp=1

HZS Office and Stores.esp=1

Old World Plaids.esp=1

PWR.esp=1

Power Conduits and Pylons Overhaul.esp=1

Wall Oil Lamps.esp=1

Power Radius 3x.esp=1

PaintingsGiveHappiness.esp=1

BuildingBlocks-Foundations.esp=1

EasyHacking.esp=1

EasyLockpicking.esp=1

Dupe Sheer Crop.esp=1

MoreColorfulHarvest.esp=1

LT_WearBothRings_AK.esp=1

Piercings.esp=1

ClothingShelvesLite.esp=1

DX Commonwealth Shorts.esp=1

DX Vault Girl Shorts.esp=1

Commonweath Vans.esp=1

CROP_SKE.esp=1

Rdr-DialogueFix01.esp=1

MogomraPAMs.esp=1

personal paintings.esp=1

Stackable Brick Wall Foundations.esp=1

DecontaminationBooth.esp=1

NWM_House.esp=1

Femsheppings Minimalist Homewares.esp=1

def_inv_scrap_en.esp=1

ImmersiveScrapping_SeasonPass.esp=1

moreoil.esp=1

Randomized DC Guard Outfits.esp=1

RealisticHuntingRifle.esp=1

Realistic Muzzle Ranges.esp=1

Recovering Glowing Sea (Radstorm Removal).esp=1

Wasteland Workshop Streetlights.esp=1

dcc-dialog-helm.esp=1

RemoveScopeSway.esp=1

RemoveTurretPowerReq.esp=1

aes_rendeco.esp=1

AES_Renovated Furniture.esp=1

ResearchExperience.esp=1

RestorePAFrames.esp=1

Reverb and Ambiance Overhaul.esp=1

RRTV_RobotModelKits.esp=1

RoomDividers.esp=1

Running with Corpses.esp=1

3dscopes-replacer.esp=1

3dscopes-framework.esp=1

InoueCWPuffs.esp=1

HN66Fo4_EarringsV1.esp=1

VtawClaire2.esp=1

VtawSensualWear.esp=1

Panundrum-SweaterDress.esp=1

MorePowerfulWindmills250.esp=1

SWG.esp=1

NX Pro - Harvest Overhaul.esp=1

NX Pro - Farm Core - Homemaker.esp=1

NX Pro - Farm Core - Spring Cleaning.esp=1

NX Pro - Farm Core - No Requirements.esp=1

TabsMissingFix_DLC_WW_CW.esp=1

Hot Mama NPCs Added Settlers and Minutemen A.esp=1

Repaired Roofs.esp=1

Evan_Modular Kitchen.esp=1

D.E.C.A.Y.esp=1

DavesPoses.esp=1

HZS Easy Homebuilder and Working Double Beds.esp=1

NSA All-in-One.esp=1

100_collection_North.esp=1

NewtonBank.esp=1

GKX Apple Tree.esp=1

settlemods_rockynarrowspark.esp=1

MoreRobotModels.esp=1

settlemods_fiddlersgreen.esp=1

EMIB Side Buildings Only.esp=1

The Sanctuary Bridge.esp=1

[777] Sanctuary - Reworked Roads.esp=1

settlemods_natickpowerplant.esp=1

CroupSettlerRescue.esp=1

Snappy_HouseK.esp=1

Snappy_DLC03.esp=1

CC's Unique Vault Suit Boxes - Far Harbor Patch.esp=1

BetterShackBridges.esp=1

Towel_Beds.esp=1

NoGuardclean.esp=1

JLS Minigun Suite.esp=1

Scroungers Weekly.esp=1

t51concord.esp=1

RRShuttersAndDoors.esp=1

SDIShutters.esp=1

FunctionalKingsportLighthouse.esp=1

Ephla's Unique - Baseball Caps.esp=1

BetterStores.esp=1

RC_BarnSet.esp=1

hzy-newfurniture.esp=1

DD_AIO Test Mark 1.esp=1

AkaWaterWorld.esp=1

WareHouseExt.esp=1

Hamed Taneh-e-Derakht Wall.esp=1

Kraggles - Structures.esp=1

JP_GuardTowers.esp=1

Hamed Bridge.esp=1

HamedConcreteRetextures.esp=1

CPO Overpass T-51.esp=1

EpilogueRestored.esp=1

ExcavatorPA.esp=1

StoneShit.esp=1

Shocking Sniper Rifle MK I.esp=1

WareHouseExt-Clean.esp=1

BarnAdd.esp=1

creativeclutter.esp=1

NaiRaeCozyScavver.esp=1

CabinInTheWoods.esp=1

BS-FarHarborExpansion.esp=1

Hellfirenew.esp=1

Hellfirenew - MPAM Compatibility.esp=1

CustomConcrete.esp=1

DD_Khassar_De_Templari_Increased_build.esp=1

NAC-FarHarbor.esp=1

NAC-NukaWorld.esp=1

cVc Water Well.esp=1

DCVendorClutter.esp=1

Crimsomrider's Unique Furniture.esp=1

HN66-SiriusArmor.esp=1

LeatherOutfit.esp=1

NoRandomMercer.esp=1

dcvendorsfaces.esp=1

vaultbuild.esp=1

TBOS-AntoHairPAck.esp=1

Homemaker - Streetlights Use Passive Power.esp=1

BDO Hair.esp=1

ParagonHairs.esp=1

Armorsmith Extended.esp=1

Toxic Raider Armour.esp=1

FemsheppingsPorts_LeahLilithAndKalilies_AWKCR_AE.esp=1

FemsheppingsSkyrimConversions_PetrovichJewelry.esp=1

NAC-AE Patch.esp=1

AWARHERO TitanFall 2 Outfits.esp=1

SuperMutantRedux.esp=1

SuperMutantRedux_ArmorSmithExtended.esp=1

SuperMutantRedux_Insanity.esp=1

EnhancedLightsandFX.esp=1

Build High - Scrapper's Patch.esp=1

Improved Power Armor Strength Increase.esp=0

More Durable Power Armor - 75%.esp=0

PhotoMode.esp=1

GruffyddsSignsAndPosters.esp=1

[EldritchEquations]

I did. I've done this so many times I've literally pulled out hair over it. I think I nail down the problem, and then I find another mod that is also causing the exact same issue. And there's no way every single one of these highly reliable mods is the problem.

I appreciate and get that it can be done. This is by absolutely no means the largest, most intensive, nor most complex loadout I've done. I built 16 settlements up, including every single one of the Triangle of Death, and saved the blueprints with Transfer Settlements using over 220 mods. Sim Settlements, armor mods, body mods, quest mods, Beantown Interiors, Atomic World, Lexington Interiors-- a ton of things you have are things I either have or have had, and have had no problems with. I've modded it way beyond this time and time again, but every single attempt in the last six months has just been random crashes.

The Diamond City mods all work fine. I loaded them all up into a Profile, and I can get into Diamond City, save, reload, run into a building, save, exit, reload, etc.

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0 0 Fallout4.esm
1 1 DLCRobot.esm
2 2 DLCworkshop01.esm
3 3 DLCCoast.esm
4 4 DLCworkshop02.esm
5 5 DLCworkshop03.esm
6 6 DLCNukaWorld.esm
7 7 Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp
8 8 ArmorKeywords.esm
9 9 HUDFramework.esm
10 a TrueStormsFO4.esm
11 b dinoshelf.esp
12 c 3DNPC_FO4.esp
13 d NaiGoodneighbor.esp
14 e CBBE.esp
15 f Eli_Armour_Compendium.esp
16 10 DiamondNewVendors.esp
17 11 TrainBar.esp
18 12 3DNPC_FO4_DLC.esp
19 13 DCGuard_Overhaul.esp
20 14 Stm_DiamondCityExpansion.esp
21 15 creativeclutter.esp
22 16 Stm_DiamondCityExpansion_x_LowerVolume.esp
23 17 TrueStormsFO4-EarlierSunsets.esp
24 18 TrueStormsFO4-FarHarbor.esp
25 19 TrueStormsFO4-EarlierSunsetsFH.esp
26 1a TrueStormsFO4-FarHarborExtraRads.esp
27 1b TrueStormsFO4-GlowingSeaExtraRads.esp
28 1c TrueStormsFO4-NukaWorld-FH-Compat.esp
29 1d DarkerNights.esp
30 1e DarkerNightsDetection.esp
31 1f AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp
32 20 Lots More Female Hairstyles.esp
33 21 Lots More Male Hairstyles.esp
34 22 Lots More Facial Hair.esp
35 23 UniquePlayer.esp
36 24 TransferSettlements.esp

Stuck all my building mods in a profile. Loaded that up just fine as well. No problems.

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0 0 Fallout4.esm
1 1 DLCRobot.esm
2 2 DLCworkshop01.esm
3 3 DLCCoast.esm
4 4 DLCworkshop02.esm
5 5 DLCworkshop03.esm
6 6 DLCNukaWorld.esm
7 7 Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp
254 FE 0 HoloDisplay.esl
8 8 ArmorKeywords.esm
9 9 HUDFramework.esm
10 a WorkshopFramework.esm
11 b SimSettlements.esm
254 FE 1 UitFJ.esl
254 FE 2 IDEKsLogisticsStation2.esl
12 c dinoshelf.esp
13 d TransferSettlements.esp
14 e g2m_Workshop_Nexus.esp
15 f AllowVaultAnywhere.esp
16 10 Crafting Mastery.esp
17 11 Crafting Mastery - Universal Chems Bench.esp
18 12 ManufacturingExtended.esp
19 13 ManufacturingExtendedFH.esp
20 14 DLC items to manufacturing.esp
254 FE 3 ArcadeTerminals.esp
21 15 BuildableBurningCampfires.esp
22 16 GrafsSecurityFences.esp
23 17 Housekeeping.esp
24 18 LooksMirror.esp
25 19 Northland Diggers New.esp
26 1a NWM_House.esp
27 1b SettlementPrivacy.esp
28 1c Sandbag Fortifications - Version 2C.esp
29 1d ScavversSettlementKit.esp
30 1e V's Community Art.esp
31 1f V's Scavver Art.esp
32 20 woodysWastelandStuff.esp
33 21 Settlements - ALL DLC - Lights Out.esp
34 22 Settlements - Lights Out.esp
35 23 Bunker Hill - Lights Out.esp
36 24 Vault 88 Lights Out.esp
37 25 PipPong.esp
38 26 Pip-Pong ArcadeTerminal.esp
39 27 SettlementMenuManager.esp
40 28 OWR2_CraftableDecor.esp
41 29 OWR2_CraftableDecor_CW.esp
42 2a VaultPlus.esp
43 2b VaultPlus_Railings.esp
44 2c VaultPlusUnlocked.esp
45 2d MoreVaultRooms.esp
46 2e VaultPlus_MVR.esp
47 2f VaultPlus_MVRUnlocked.esp
48 30 LooksMenu.esp
49 31 AnotherBrickInTheWall.esp
50 32 The Sanctuary Bridge.esp
51 33 BostonAirport_WorkshopFix.esp
NanotechWaterpump_FoodWaterHappy.esp
52 34 SimSettlements_AddOnPack_AwsomeTown.esp
53 35 SimSettlements_AddOnPack_Defences_Brae.esp
54 36 TrailerParkDreams.esp
55 37 SimHomestead.esp
56 38 DownTime_SimSettlements_Addon_Des.esp
57 39 home_improvement_all.esp
58 3a ruined_simsettlement_addonpack.esp
59 3b creativeclutter.esp
60 3c NaiRaeCozyScavver.esp
61 3d BasementLiving.esp
62 3e WVSimSAddon.esp
63 3f OWR.esp
64 40 OWR2.esp
65 41 Altairp's Animal Farm.esp
66 42 IndustrialCity_Sim_Settlements_Addon.esp
254 FE 4 SimSettlements_XPAC_RiseOfTheCommonwealth.esp
67 43 JunkTown.esp
68 44 SimSettlements_MegaPack_YearThree.esp
69 45 ohSIM_Sim_Settlements_Scrappers_Addon.esp
254 FE 5 WVSimSAddonAIO_Previews.esp
254 FE 6 Arcade Terminals SMM.esp
254 FE 7 HoloDisplay SMM.esp
254 FE 8 OWR_CraftableDecor.esp
70 46 OWR_CraftableDecor_CW.esp
254 FE 9 OWR_CraftableDecor SMM.esp
254 FE a Sandbag Fortifications - Version 2C SMM.esp
254 FE b ScavversSettlementKit SMM.esp
71 47 Thematic and Practical.esp
72 48 Thematic and Practical - DLC.esp
73 49 Better Manufacturing.esp
74 4a Better Manufacturing - Menu Organization.esp
75 4b Better Manufacturing - Manufacturing Extended Additions.esp
76 4c Better Manufacturing - Manufacturing Extended Additions FH.esp
77 4d Better Manufacturing - Manufacturing Extended Expanded Patch WO.esp
78 4e Scrap Everything - Ultimate Edition.esp

 

 

Uninstalling everything and testing everything one at a time has given me several false-positives. It's why the list is so small at this point, because anything that causes the issue I just immediately uninstall and continue along testing the rest of them. I have no confidence anymore that when I find one that's causing it that it's the actual problem, because I've had it reappear with so many different mods. Example:

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0 0 Fallout4.esm
1 1 DLCRobot.esm
2 2 DLCworkshop01.esm
3 3 DLCCoast.esm
4 4 DLCworkshop02.esm
5 5 DLCworkshop03.esm
6 6 DLCNukaWorld.esm
7 7 Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp
8 8 3DNPC_FO4Settler.esp

 

Everything else is disabled. It won't load Diamond City. OK, easy, right? Just get rid of 3DNPC_FO4Settler.esp

Except, if I do that, I know from experience because I've been dealing with this absolute migraine for months, that it will happen again. And then I'll go do this all over again, and find some other mod, and uninstall that, and restart my game. I don't see anything on either mod page about it, but going to the UFO4P page to ask seems like a good way to get told it's absolutely any other mod but theirs. And in this journey of migraines, I've had false-positives several times where it's X mod, I take it off, and it's still happening. I've played with these two before with no problems. But short of someone on the 3dNPC page coming back to me or anyone else being able to verify this conflict, I'm back to exactly where I started of having no idea why this isn't working or how to even find out.

[gromulos]

 

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0 0 Fallout4.esm

1 1 DLCRobot.esm

2 2 DLCworkshop01.esm

3 3 DLCCoast.esm

4 4 DLCworkshop02.esm

5 5 DLCworkshop03.esm

6 6 DLCNukaWorld.esm

7 7 Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp

8 8 3DNPC_FO4Settler.esp

Everything else is disabled. It won't load Diamond City. OK, easy, right? Just get rid of 3DNPC_FO4Settler.esp

Except, if I do that, I know from experience because I've been dealing with this absolute migraine for months, that it will happen again. And then I'll go do this all over again, and find some other mod, and uninstall that, and restart my game. I don't see anything on either mod page about it, but going to the UFO4P page to ask seems like a good way to get told it's absolutely any other mod but theirs. And in this journey of migraines, I've had false-positives several times where it's X mod, I take it off, and it's still happening. I've played with these two before with no problems. But short of someone on the 3dNPC page coming back to me or anyone else being able to verify this conflict, I'm back to exactly where I started of having no idea why this isn't working or how to even find out.

 

 

Try the base game files only. if it still does it with just the base game files then it might very well be an overheat issue. My game ran fine for over a year then everytime i tried to run it , it would crash. The cause of the issue was an update to the Nvidia control panel had reset the CPU cooling fan to only 180RPM

[EldritchEquations]

Just uninstalled everything with NMM, again. Once again, it loads fine. I save, close, and reload, and it's fine.

 

This is a mod conflict, there's absolutely nothing else it could be, but I have NO idea which one. No matter what I uninstall, it doesn't solve the issue. As shown, I've had it down to TWO mods, literally TWO, and it caused this exact crash. UFO4P and Settlers of the Commonwealth, neither of which have any such reported problems. Neither do any of the other mods I've identified to be "causing" this and subsequently uninstalled. My modded game used to be the bright spot of my week, now I'm honestly so depressed about this half the time I don't even fire up my PC. I had hopes one day of releasing my own city builds, but at this rate of failure, I don't want to play anything anymore.

[gromulos]

did you try as I said by running only the base game files?

[EldritchEquations]

Yes. It loads fine.

Honestly the next thing I'm going to try is getting rid of the Unofficial patch.

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[EldritchEquations]

Someone else pointed me at Fallrim Tools... I'm not sure why, as I have no idea what it does. I have it now, I guess? All they vaguely said was, "Examine your save." Yep, it's there. It still won't load after saving in Diamond City right across from the noodle stand, on a completely new save, with nothing but F4SE, UFO4P, Settlers of the Commonwealth, and now this tomfoolery.

Then someone else said go get Buffout 4. OK, fine. So I go download x86, x64, and ARM64 of the Microsoft Visual C++-- as Buffout 4 doesn't specify which you need-- and xSE Plugin Preloader F4, Address Library, and Buffout 4.

Game won't run at all now. HEADDESK Windows gives me the little circle like it's doing something for a second, and then nothing.

EDIT: Changed the Load Method in xSE Plugin Preloader. Loaded. This is what I get from the Buffout log when I try to load into the save inside Diamond City:

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E:\Repos\f4se\Buffout4\src\main.cpp(50): [info] Buffout4 v1.20.3
E:\Repos\f4se\CommonLibF4\CommonLibF4\include\F4SE\Trampoline.cpp(114): [info] Default Trampoline => 0B / 256B (00.00%)
E:\Repos\f4se\Buffout4\src\Crash\CrashHandler.cpp(592): [info] installed crash handlers
E:\Repos\f4se\Buffout4\src\Patches\AchievementsPatch.cpp(76): [info] installed Achievements patch
E:\Repos\f4se\Buffout4\src\Patches/BSTextureStreamerLocalHeapPatch.h(61): [info] installed BSTextureStreamerLocalHeap patch
E:\Repos\f4se\CommonLibF4\CommonLibF4\include\F4SE\Trampoline.cpp(114): [info] Default Trampoline => 14B / 256B (05.47%)
E:\Repos\f4se\Buffout4\src\Patches/HavokMemorySystemPatch.h(163): [info] installed HavokMemorySystem patch
E:\Repos\f4se\Buffout4\src\Patches/MemoryManagerPatch.h(244): [info] installed MemoryManager patch
E:\Repos\f4se\CommonLibF4\CommonLibF4\include\F4SE\Trampoline.cpp(114): [info] Default Trampoline => 28B / 256B (10.94%)
E:\Repos\f4se\Buffout4\src\Patches/ScaleformAllocatorPatch.h(59): [info] installed ScaleformAllocator patch
E:\Repos\f4se\Buffout4\src\Patches/SmallBlockAllocatorPatch.h(31): [info] installed SmallBlockAllocator patch
E:\Repos\f4se\Buffout4\src\Patches/WorkshopMenuPatch.h(584): [info] installed WorkshopMenu patch
E:\Repos\f4se\Buffout4\src\Fixes/ActorIsHostileToActorFix.h(30): [info] installed ActorIsHostileToActor fix
E:\Repos\f4se\CommonLibF4\CommonLibF4\include\F4SE\Trampoline.cpp(114): [info] Default Trampoline => 43B / 256B (16.80%)
E:\Repos\f4se\CommonLibF4\CommonLibF4\include\F4SE\Trampoline.cpp(114): [info] Default Trampoline => 57B / 256B (22.27%)
E:\Repos\f4se\Buffout4\src\Fixes\CellInitFix.cpp(75): [info] installed CellInit fix
E:\Repos\f4se\CommonLibF4\CommonLibF4\include\F4SE\Trampoline.cpp(114): [info] Default Trampoline => 65B / 256B (25.39%)
E:\Repos\f4se\Buffout4\src\Fixes/GreyMoviesFix.h(23): [info] installed GreyMovies fix
E:\Repos\f4se\CommonLibF4\CommonLibF4\include\F4SE\Trampoline.cpp(114): [info] Default Trampoline => 79B / 256B (30.86%)
E:\Repos\f4se\Buffout4\src\Fixes/MovementPlannerFix.h(22): [info] installed MovementPlanner fix
E:\Repos\f4se\CommonLibF4\CommonLibF4\include\F4SE\Trampoline.cpp(114): [info] Default Trampoline => 93B / 256B (36.33%)
E:\Repos\f4se\Buffout4\src\Fixes/PackageAllocateLocationFix.h(22): [info] installed PackageAllocateLocation fix
E:\Repos\f4se\CommonLibF4\CommonLibF4\include\F4SE\Trampoline.cpp(114): [info] Default Trampoline => 107B / 256B (41.80%)
E:\Repos\f4se\Buffout4\src\Fixes/SafeExitFix.h(18): [info] installed SafeExit fix
E:\Repos\f4se\Buffout4\src\Fixes/UnalignedLoadFix.h(33): [info] installed UnalignedLoad fix
E:\Repos\f4se\CommonLibF4\CommonLibF4\include\F4SE\Trampoline.cpp(114): [info] Default Trampoline => 123B / 256B (48.05%)
E:\Repos\f4se\CommonLibF4\CommonLibF4\include\F4SE\Trampoline.cpp(114): [info] Default Trampoline => 131B / 256B (51.17%)
E:\Repos\f4se\CommonLibF4\CommonLibF4\include\F4SE\Trampoline.cpp(114): [info] Default Trampoline => 148B / 256B (57.81%)
E:\Repos\f4se\CommonLibF4\CommonLibF4\include\F4SE\Trampoline.cpp(114): [info] Default Trampoline => 156B / 256B (60.94%)
E:\Repos\f4se\Buffout4\src\Warnings\CreateTexture2DWarning.cpp(118): [info] installed class Warnings::CreateTexture2DWarning
E:\Repos\f4se\CommonLibF4\CommonLibF4\include\F4SE\Trampoline.cpp(114): [info] Default Trampoline => 173B / 256B (67.58%)
E:\Repos\f4se\CommonLibF4\CommonLibF4\include\F4SE\Trampoline.cpp(114): [info] Default Trampoline => 187B / 256B (73.05%)
E:\Repos\f4se\Buffout4\src\Warnings\ImageSpaceAdapterWarning.cpp(76): [info] installed class Warnings::ImageSpaceAdapterWarning
E:\Repos\f4se\Buffout4\src\Fixes/EncounterZoneResetFix.h(52): [info] installed EncounterZoneReset fix
E:\Repos\f4se\CommonLibF4\CommonLibF4\include\F4SE\Trampoline.cpp(114): [info] Default Trampoline => 198B / 256B (77.34%)
E:\Repos\f4se\CommonLibF4\CommonLibF4\include\F4SE\Trampoline.cpp(114): [info] Default Trampoline => 206B / 256B (80.47%)
E:\Repos\f4se\CommonLibF4\CommonLibF4\include\F4SE\Trampoline.cpp(114): [info] Defau

 

Edited February 27, 2021 by EldritchEquations

[gromulos]

let me see just the bottom 10 lines of that report please