Skywind is coming to Nexus Mods

[shinji72]

In response to post #35668982. #35669217, #35669442, #35669712, #35670282, #35671002, #35671772, #35671817, #35672302, #35672427, #35672697, #35674332, #35674357, #35674752, #35676172, #35676512, #35676932, #35681567, #35693087 are all replies on the same post.

gx240 wrote: Yet another mod that's going to be ruined by terrible amateur voice acting. There are few things that can kill immersion in an otherwise sublime RPG like finding yourself suddenly listening to stilted and overacted lines recorded by some guy in his basement. (And it's even worse when they try to do accents.)

I'm really disappointed because I was looking forward to playing this until now. For the life of me I have never been able to figure out how this happens, but for some reason a lot of modders and mod teams really can't listen to their own voice acting objectively and realize how atrocious it is.

SikSikSikki wrote: It's not easy finding professional voice actors that will work for free. Skywind does still have a certain standard for quality, though, that you seemed to have overlooked. Sure, not every single voice is going to win an award, but most of it sounds pretty damn good regardless.

Besides, it's not like the TESRenewal team woke up one day and thought to themselves "Man, we better make this perfect for gx240", and it's stupid to say this entire thing sucks because of one comparatively small aspect that isn't perfect.

Rhyme17 wrote: ruined huh

guess you couldn't possibly turn off the voices or replace the files with blanks yourself

gx240 wrote: "Besides, it's not like the TESRenewal team woke up one day and thought to themselves "Man, we better make this perfect for gx240"

Wow, SikSikSikki, you sure raised a great point there! I guess no one should ever be allowed to critique any work under any circumstances, because if anyone ever criticizes anything you can say "Hey, they didn't make it just for you."

What a genius you are! You should go write letters to everyone who reviews restaurants and tell them "They didn't create that recipe just for you, therefore you're not allowed to evaluate the quality of the food." You should demand a stop to movie reviews as well. Why don't you go over to IMDB and RottenTomatoes and tell everyone that they shouldn't be allowed to review anything. It'll keep you busy at least.

"It's not easy finding professional voice actors that will work for free."

Obviously. I never said it was.

"Skywind does still have a certain standard for quality, though, that you seemed to have overlooked."

And that is the exact same thing that every modder says right before delivering the aforementioned cringe-inducing experience. Find me a mod creator who says "I have no standard for quality."

Stiubhard wrote: I do know what you mean though...the voice for Patsy the Messenger in the Skyrim Helgen Rebuilt mod is awful...the worst Scottish accent since groundkeeper Willie, and although it is only a small part to kickstart the modit really did detract for me.

Elagabalaus wrote: I understand your point, but still, it's a great goal they set for themselves even with all the limitations set upon them. I bet some of the volunteers even donated some of their own money to see this come to life. At least give them the credit they deserve. You can't s#*! on hard work because of one fault. Anyways, I'm excited for this, looks better than TES:O tbh, lmao.

webyan wrote: Are you volunteering for some great professional voice acting? I never knew that free mods carried the expectation of paid work behind them.

Any kind of voice acting will be an upgrade to Morrowind regardless, all I remember from that game is reading through walls of text. Which you can achieve by muting voice sound.

It would be too much to ask to just wait and see how the product will actually turn out, though, so I completely understand your point...

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Bah

beggarmaster2000 wrote: they turned down my offer helping out with audio quality.
reply was under qualified, not serious and demanded personal information

MotionBlurr wrote: same here. Ive been a dj for 10 years and with countless hours behind producing mixes, leveling audio, and mastering.... you think i would have enough experience.

Bleako wrote: You can critique the quality of the voice overs however you want gx240, but you should also have realistic expectations. The Skywind team do not have the necessary funding to record professional-level audio nor do they have a large selection of voice actors to choose from, and this is also the case for the vast majority of other mods out there (even in other games.)

This is a massive project entirely developed by volunteers. They have quality standards for sure, but there's a limit to what they can do, and you should manage your expectations accordingly instead of wasting time saying the obvious. Stick to retail games if you can't enjoy volunteer voice work.

Rioplats wrote: Since they're taking lines from external volunteers, the core team can objectively select and filter out acceptable voice performances. Did you watch the video? The ones they sampled, at least, for the video, have been very decent.
They can always retconn it afterwards if people don't like a certain voice. I'm sure they won't take offence.

DragomirTheSlav wrote: Which voices are you referring to, gx240? The strain to get the audio and acting quality as good as possible in a volounteer project is very big. Many of them already do a better job than many Skyrim voice actors. Just listen to Farengar.

DragomirTheSlav wrote: Skyrim voice acting:

Skywind voice acting:

AlixIsAXenomorph wrote: Idk but I thought the one guy that did the dunmer that was shown first was really good.

NumberOneAsian wrote: i LOVE bad voice acting its pretty funny. why do people care so much about immersion?

numeriku wrote: "It's not easy finding professional voice actors that will work for free."

A few from 3DNPCs that had great quality mics and voice acting were turned down.

*shrugs* Their loss.

Regardless, as long as Bethesda does not randomly decide to turn on this project and obliterate it, it will be one of the greatest achievements in modding ever.
Good luck to all those involved!

Torchfield wrote: 'Atrocious'? As though I would let atrocious voice acting through. Is this a direct insult to my team and myself? I'm taking it that way.

Listen Gary (or whoever you are) - our voice acting is of a remarkably high calibre. With very few exceptions, the ones who make it through our gantlet of sound quality checks have superb audio quality, and if there's issues with the delivery it's the lines themselves - not our actors. On that point, if we'd have had the resources I would have loved to have rewritten the lines to sound more 'natural' when spoken. Alas, we were limited in that regard.

I'm really disappointed in you, gx240, because I like showing off our talented team's efforts - seeing them get recognition for their hard work. And it is work. For the life of me, I have never been able to understand how people like you exist, but for some reason it seems a lot of 'fans' can't look at their behavior objectively and see how petulant they are.

LonesomeRenn wrote: I have no idea what you're basing this on, just from the small clips in the video posted here i'd say the voice acting is already better than half of that in skyrim's.

taerkalith wrote: @motionblurr,

Hi, I didnt see your application post but feel free to PM me on tesrenewal with it and we may be able to get you hooked up with SFX if you'd be interested. In terms of music however, we already have a very well known composer within the modding community doing our mastering and helping with mixing individual tracks. In short, the position is already filled for music and it is best if a single individual does that sort of thing due to how mastering works, but don't think we don't appreciate your application. Let me know, take care!

Having listen to the voice acting in the video... really can't understand what you're complaining about. Do you expect to have a team of Leonardo DiCaprio Oscar winners to dub this mod?

[danpilaf]

In response to post #35668982. #35669217, #35669442, #35669712, #35670282, #35671002, #35671772, #35671817, #35672302, #35672427, #35672697, #35674332, #35674357, #35674752, #35676172, #35676512, #35676932, #35681567, #35693087, #35694067 are all replies on the same post.

gx240 wrote: Yet another mod that's going to be ruined by terrible amateur voice acting. There are few things that can kill immersion in an otherwise sublime RPG like finding yourself suddenly listening to stilted and overacted lines recorded by some guy in his basement. (And it's even worse when they try to do accents.)

I'm really disappointed because I was looking forward to playing this until now. For the life of me I have never been able to figure out how this happens, but for some reason a lot of modders and mod teams really can't listen to their own voice acting objectively and realize how atrocious it is.

SikSikSikki wrote: It's not easy finding professional voice actors that will work for free. Skywind does still have a certain standard for quality, though, that you seemed to have overlooked. Sure, not every single voice is going to win an award, but most of it sounds pretty damn good regardless.

Besides, it's not like the TESRenewal team woke up one day and thought to themselves "Man, we better make this perfect for gx240", and it's stupid to say this entire thing sucks because of one comparatively small aspect that isn't perfect.

Rhyme17 wrote: ruined huh

guess you couldn't possibly turn off the voices or replace the files with blanks yourself

gx240 wrote: "Besides, it's not like the TESRenewal team woke up one day and thought to themselves "Man, we better make this perfect for gx240"

Wow, SikSikSikki, you sure raised a great point there! I guess no one should ever be allowed to critique any work under any circumstances, because if anyone ever criticizes anything you can say "Hey, they didn't make it just for you."

What a genius you are! You should go write letters to everyone who reviews restaurants and tell them "They didn't create that recipe just for you, therefore you're not allowed to evaluate the quality of the food." You should demand a stop to movie reviews as well. Why don't you go over to IMDB and RottenTomatoes and tell everyone that they shouldn't be allowed to review anything. It'll keep you busy at least.

"It's not easy finding professional voice actors that will work for free."

Obviously. I never said it was.

"Skywind does still have a certain standard for quality, though, that you seemed to have overlooked."

And that is the exact same thing that every modder says right before delivering the aforementioned cringe-inducing experience. Find me a mod creator who says "I have no standard for quality."

Stiubhard wrote: I do know what you mean though...the voice for Patsy the Messenger in the Skyrim Helgen Rebuilt mod is awful...the worst Scottish accent since groundkeeper Willie, and although it is only a small part to kickstart the modit really did detract for me.

Elagabalaus wrote: I understand your point, but still, it's a great goal they set for themselves even with all the limitations set upon them. I bet some of the volunteers even donated some of their own money to see this come to life. At least give them the credit they deserve. You can't s#*! on hard work because of one fault. Anyways, I'm excited for this, looks better than TES:O tbh, lmao.

webyan wrote: Are you volunteering for some great professional voice acting? I never knew that free mods carried the expectation of paid work behind them.

Any kind of voice acting will be an upgrade to Morrowind regardless, all I remember from that game is reading through walls of text. Which you can achieve by muting voice sound.

It would be too much to ask to just wait and see how the product will actually turn out, though, so I completely understand your point...

...
...
Bah

beggarmaster2000 wrote: they turned down my offer helping out with audio quality.
reply was under qualified, not serious and demanded personal information

MotionBlurr wrote: same here. Ive been a dj for 10 years and with countless hours behind producing mixes, leveling audio, and mastering.... you think i would have enough experience.

Bleako wrote: You can critique the quality of the voice overs however you want gx240, but you should also have realistic expectations. The Skywind team do not have the necessary funding to record professional-level audio nor do they have a large selection of voice actors to choose from, and this is also the case for the vast majority of other mods out there (even in other games.)

This is a massive project entirely developed by volunteers. They have quality standards for sure, but there's a limit to what they can do, and you should manage your expectations accordingly instead of wasting time saying the obvious. Stick to retail games if you can't enjoy volunteer voice work.

Rioplats wrote: Since they're taking lines from external volunteers, the core team can objectively select and filter out acceptable voice performances. Did you watch the video? The ones they sampled, at least, for the video, have been very decent.
They can always retconn it afterwards if people don't like a certain voice. I'm sure they won't take offence.

DragomirTheSlav wrote: Which voices are you referring to, gx240? The strain to get the audio and acting quality as good as possible in a volounteer project is very big. Many of them already do a better job than many Skyrim voice actors. Just listen to Farengar.

DragomirTheSlav wrote: Skyrim voice acting:

Skywind voice acting:

AlixIsAXenomorph wrote: Idk but I thought the one guy that did the dunmer that was shown first was really good.

NumberOneAsian wrote: i LOVE bad voice acting its pretty funny. why do people care so much about immersion?

numeriku wrote: "It's not easy finding professional voice actors that will work for free."

A few from 3DNPCs that had great quality mics and voice acting were turned down.

*shrugs* Their loss.

Regardless, as long as Bethesda does not randomly decide to turn on this project and obliterate it, it will be one of the greatest achievements in modding ever.
Good luck to all those involved!

Torchfield wrote: 'Atrocious'? As though I would let atrocious voice acting through. Is this a direct insult to my team and myself? I'm taking it that way.

Listen Gary (or whoever you are) - our voice acting is of a remarkably high calibre. With very few exceptions, the ones who make it through our gantlet of sound quality checks have superb audio quality, and if there's issues with the delivery it's the lines themselves - not our actors. On that point, if we'd have had the resources I would have loved to have rewritten the lines to sound more 'natural' when spoken. Alas, we were limited in that regard.

I'm really disappointed in you, gx240, because I like showing off our talented team's efforts - seeing them get recognition for their hard work. And it is work. For the life of me, I have never been able to understand how people like you exist, but for some reason it seems a lot of 'fans' can't look at their behavior objectively and see how petulant they are.

LonesomeRenn wrote: I have no idea what you're basing this on, just from the small clips in the video posted here i'd say the voice acting is already better than half of that in skyrim's.

taerkalith wrote: @motionblurr,

Hi, I didnt see your application post but feel free to PM me on tesrenewal with it and we may be able to get you hooked up with SFX if you'd be interested. In terms of music however, we already have a very well known composer within the modding community doing our mastering and helping with mixing individual tracks. In short, the position is already filled for music and it is best if a single individual does that sort of thing due to how mastering works, but don't think we don't appreciate your application. Let me know, take care!

shinji72 wrote: Having listen to the voice acting in the video... really can't understand what you're complaining about. Do you expect to have a team of Leonardo DiCaprio Oscar winners to dub this mod?

first of all, you should listen to these ACTUAL voice samples from Morrowind

and then listen to these PRACTICE lines from Skywind

and THEN tell me how this is "terrible amateur voice acting", how the original Morrowind voice actors NEVER overacted their lines or NEVER had terrible fake accents or NEVER recorded dialogue for 40 different characters in the same game(sarcasm). You just assume a team of people automatically praise each others' voice acting instead of critiquing it and trying to make it actually sound as good/better than the original game. Not to mention Skywind is a multinational group with real, bonafide regional accents, and professional industry experience(including some voice acting).

But I'm sure you love hearing the same boring Arnold Schwarzenegger impression spewing out of every single npc in Skyrim.

cheers

[Hummelpuff]

WoooW Nice ^^_

 

[taerkalith]

@Beggarmaster2000

 

you were banned from tesrenewal.com for listing piracy tools in your profile as as source of obtaining software. This is against the rules of the website. Flaming and Trolling is also not permissible. Beyond this though beggar, you just were uncooperative and not a team player and could not show us any past experience in the fields you were interested in. We simply can't work with someone who isn't qualified, and especially those who apparently decides to do what you've been doing here on the nexus and on our forums when you received such news. I gave you a clear way to re-apply by submitting example work and you refused. I hadn't had to ban anyone in 6 months from tesrenewal, so I don't think I normally act without merit. Moderator feel free to remove this comment and his as well if you believe it is warranted. I do not wish to discuss this here but I feel it needs to be curtailed to stop this individual bad mouthing the project.

Edited March 17, 2016 by taerkalith

[Sonja]

In response to post #35672577. #35675047, #35677432, #35682487, #35693762 are all replies on the same post.

Sonja wrote: This looks truly incredible, and I'm in complete awe of the creators, so I'm very interesting in giving this a try when it comes out.

The only thing is that there are certain Morrowind mods that I just can't see myself playing without... such as the LGNPC series, Tamriel Rebuilt and Julan, and I suspect it's a given that mods made expressly for the MW engine will not be compatible. Therefore, in the end, I'll likely return to Morrowind Graphics and Sound Overhaul (MGSO), or Open MW when it comes out. Also, I far prefer Morrowind's more complex levelling and attribute systems over those of Skyrim...
Still, though, it will be really exciting to take a look at this once it's released. Honestly, the Elderscrolls Modding Community is just amazing!

tx12001 wrote: "The only thing is that there are certain Morrowind mods that I just can't see myself playing without... "

You do realize Skywind is not Morrowind, it will have countless features that Morrowind doesn't have like random encounters, Crafting, all several thousand NPCs will have Full (high Quality) Voice Acting, Mounts, Jail System most likely and much more.


"Also, I far prefer Morrowind's more complex levelling and attribute systems over those of Skyrim... "

Who says Skywind isn't going to have them? Skywind will pretty much do what Nehrim does to Oblivion, It replaces the entire vanilla game so theirfor will require that you use it on its own install as the vanilla game will be completely unplayable when it is installed.

Sonja wrote: I've been playing and modding Elderscrolls games for years.. so yes, strangely enough, I am in fact aware they are two different titles. However, despite being quite capable at installing mods, I'm not technically inclined, so although I strongly suspected mods would be incompatible, I was not 101% certain. Thank you for confirming my guess, though.

In terms of the additional features... While I know a lot of people will enjoy them, I am not, personally, interested in the introduction of crafting in Morrowind. Instead, I like being able to find really unique, powerful items that are not exceeded by anything I can make. While I certainly appreciate high quality voice acting, I'm perfectly content with text, as long as it is at least reasonably well written. I never use mounts in Skyrim as it is, so I wouldn't use them in an adapted Morrowind, and jails are not something I spend time in (the only exception being when I go to meet up with Inigo). What can I say, I'm basically an old school gamer. :D

If you are indeed creating a new levelling and attribute system, I would be interested to see it.

Look... no need to get so defensive with me.. I was not, in fact, attacking you. Hopefully you read that I appreciate the work that you and the rest of the modding community have done for these games.

However, I tend to agree with Apoapse.. there are several people here (certain of those representing the Skywind team included) who dearly need to learn some manners. Moreover, like DrBactrian, I think at this stage I might be somewhat reluctant to install Skywind... based on some of what I have seen here today.
Yes, this is a volunteer project, but nonetheless, some cool-headed professionalism would not go amiss.

webyan wrote: "I think at this stage I might be somewhat reluctant to install Skywind... based on some of what I have seen here today. "
What have you seen specifically? What kind of manners have been ignored?

taerkalith wrote: Skywind Dev here,

I want to apologize on behalf of the team for TX12001s curt/rude response. I think he may have been triggered by a previous conversion, but regardless..

Morrowind mods will not be compatible with Skywind unfortunately. Morrowind is indeed something truly special that Skywind isn't aiming to replace, but to give a new take on. Similar to a reboot in some ways. For that reason I agree with you that there will always be a reason to play morrowind. I do think you'll enjoy Skywind when it is released though, the ash storms and updated mechanics really make it an interesting new experience. We also in the works of bringing back attributes and a general overhaul of all perks/skill trees to try to encapsulate the best aspects of morrowind within the new engine. What you'll end up seeing is something akin to a mashup of the best elements from III IV and V to try to create in-depth rpg friendly gameplay.

However I do expect a lot of skyrim mods will be able to carry over with minimal/no patching and we hope a modding community will build around it.

It's too bad that Tamriel rebuilt's graphics are very dated as technically it would be possible to port the mod's cells into the skywind gameworld. For now we just have some distant LOD terrain as a tribute to the mainland. It always makes me think of that mod :)

Thank you, Taerkalith, I appreciate that. I suspected this to be the case.... and I can have a bit of a temper myself if I'm not careful to keep a clamp on it, so I do understand the urge toward a kneejerk reaction. No hard feelings. :)

"I do think you'll enjoy Skywind when it is released though, the ash storms and updated mechanics really make it an interesting new experience. We also in the works of bringing back attributes and a general overhaul of all perks/skill trees to try to encapsulate the best aspects of morrowind within the new engine. What you'll end up seeing is something akin to a mashup of the best elements from III IV and V to try to create in-depth rpg friendly gameplay."

This is very definitely something I am looking forward to! I think, more than likely, I'll end up switching between Skywind and Morrowind with MGSO, as the mood strikes. Who knows, maybe some Morrowind modders will even recreate their mods for Skywind. It's not something I'd expect.. I can't even begin to imagine the amount of work that would require, though I can still hope. But regardless, you've just reassured me that Skywind will be a rich and interesting experience.

So cheers, and the best of luck to you!

[Aedred]

To all the people working on this, thank you. :) Edited March 17, 2016 by Aedred

[Poacher886]

How big is the map v skyrim ?

[XarisZ]

Nice,cant wait for the next news!!! :D

[bloodbrew95]

always cool to see a classic remade now if only someone could do daggerfall what with its continent in game sized map XD Edited March 17, 2016 by bloodbrew95

[taerkalith]

 

In response to post #35668982. #35669217, #35669442, #35669712, #35670282, #35671002, #35671772, #35671817, #35672302, #35672427, #35672697, #35674332, #35674357, #35674752, #35676172 are all replies on the same post.

 

 

 

gx240 wrote: Yet another mod that's going to be ruined by terrible amateur voice acting. There are few things that can kill immersion in an otherwise sublime RPG like finding yourself suddenly listening to stilted and overacted lines recorded by some guy in his basement. (And it's even worse when they try to do accents.)

 

I'm really disappointed because I was looking forward to playing this until now. For the life of me I have never been able to figure out how this happens, but for some reason a lot of modders and mod teams really can't listen to their own voice acting objectively and realize how atrocious it is.

SikSikSikki wrote: It's not easy finding professional voice actors that will work for free. Skywind does still have a certain standard for quality, though, that you seemed to have overlooked. Sure, not every single voice is going to win an award, but most of it sounds pretty damn good regardless.

 

Besides, it's not like the TESRenewal team woke up one day and thought to themselves "Man, we better make this perfect for gx240", and it's stupid to say this entire thing sucks because of one comparatively small aspect that isn't perfect.

Rhyme17 wrote: ruined huh

 

guess you couldn't possibly turn off the voices or replace the files with blanks yourself

gx240 wrote: "Besides, it's not like the TESRenewal team woke up one day and thought to themselves "Man, we better make this perfect for gx240"

 

Wow, SikSikSikki, you sure raised a great point there! I guess no one should ever be allowed to critique any work under any circumstances, because if anyone ever criticizes anything you can say "Hey, they didn't make it just for you."

 

What a genius you are! You should go write letters to everyone who reviews restaurants and tell them "They didn't create that recipe just for you, therefore you're not allowed to evaluate the quality of the food." You should demand a stop to movie reviews as well. Why don't you go over to IMDB and RottenTomatoes and tell everyone that they shouldn't be allowed to review anything. It'll keep you busy at least.

 

"It's not easy finding professional voice actors that will work for free."

 

Obviously. I never said it was.

 

"Skywind does still have a certain standard for quality, though, that you seemed to have overlooked."

 

And that is the exact same thing that every modder says right before delivering the aforementioned cringe-inducing experience. Find me a mod creator who says "I have no standard for quality."

Stiubhard wrote: I do know what you mean though...the voice for Patsy the Messenger in the Skyrim Helgen Rebuilt mod is awful...the worst Scottish accent since groundkeeper Willie, and although it is only a small part to kickstart the modit really did detract for me.

Elagabalaus wrote: I understand your point, but still, it's a great goal they set for themselves even with all the limitations set upon them. I bet some of the volunteers even donated some of their own money to see this come to life. At least give them the credit they deserve. You can't s*** on hard work because of one fault. Anyways, I'm excited for this, looks better than TES:O tbh, lmao.

webyan wrote: Are you volunteering for some great professional voice acting? I never knew that free mods carried the expectation of paid work behind them.

 

Any kind of voice acting will be an upgrade to Morrowind regardless, all I remember from that game is reading through walls of text. Which you can achieve by muting voice sound.

 

It would be too much to ask to just wait and see how the product will actually turn out, though, so I completely understand your point...

 

...

...

Bah

beggarmaster2000 wrote: they turned down my offer helping out with audio quality.

reply was under qualified, not serious and demanded personal information

MotionBlurr wrote: same here. Ive been a dj for 10 years and with countless hours behind producing mixes, leveling audio, and mastering.... you think i would have enough experience.

Bleako wrote: You can critique the quality of the voice overs however you want gx240, but you should also have realistic expectations. The Skywind team do not have the necessary funding to record professional-level audio nor do they have a large selection of voice actors to choose from, and this is also the case for the vast majority of other mods out there (even in other games.)

 

This is a massive project entirely developed by volunteers. They have quality standards for sure, but there's a limit to what they can do, and you should manage your expectations accordingly instead of wasting time saying the obvious. Stick to retail games if you can't enjoy volunteer voice work.

Rioplats wrote: Since they're taking lines from external volunteers, the core team can objectively select and filter out acceptable voice performances. Did you watch the video? The ones they sampled, at least, for the video, have been very decent.

They can always retconn it afterwards if people don't like a certain voice. I'm sure they won't take offence.

DragomirTheSlav wrote: Which voices are you referring to, gx240? The strain to get the audio and acting quality as good as possible in a volounteer project is very big. Many of them already do a better job than many Skyrim voice actors. Just listen to Farengar.

DragomirTheSlav wrote: Skyrim voice acting:

 

Skywind voice acting:

 

https://youtu.be/77OxmQohtHc?t=239

AlixIsAXenomorph wrote: Idk but I thought the one guy that did the dunmer that was shown first was really good.

NumberOneAsian wrote: i LOVE bad voice acting its pretty funny. why do people care so much about immersion?

"It's not easy finding professional voice actors that will work for free."

 

A few from 3DNPCs that had great quality mics and voice acting were turned down.

 

*shrugs* Their loss.

 

Regardless, as long as Bethesda does not randomly decide to turn on this project and obliterate it, it will be one of the greatest achievements in modding ever.

Good luck to all those involved!

 

@numeriku

 

Last I recall those 3dNPC VAs were accepted but flaked out so we had to replace their assignments. We still really want Jess (littlecuppajoe) to come on board, but life delays, oh well.