Preston stopped giving me things to do

[cossayos]

Simply answering the thread title. Lucky you. As soon as you have the castle and did old guns there's really no need for Preston.

[parrotheada1a]

When I did my Janice playthrough, I had to resort to a youtube video to solve how to remove the dirt pile in the castle. I thought it was crazy that you had to open up the settlement menu. Once I did that, the hardest thing was dumping the dirtpile.

[JimmyRJump]

When I did my Janice playthrough, I had to resort to a youtube video to solve how to remove the dirt pile in the castle. I thought it was crazy that you had to open up the settlement menu. Once I did that, the hardest thing was dumping the dirtpile.

Primo: who the f**k is Janice?

Secundo: there's over fifty 'dirt piles' in the Castle...

Tertio: what has all this to do with the topic?

[SirTwist]

Allow to express my deep loathing for Preston Garvey. At least with the Longs you can shut them up by assigning them to what I refer to as long walks, or settlement provisioners. They can't complain if they are too tired to do so. Preston, though, I want to take and have him get fragged to a million pieces. Between two mods, I have gotten him to slow his roll down quite a bit. Between no settlement attacks, and one other, he only gives me certain missions. Frankly, I thought that generals give the missions, and other do them. In this game, it must be that general maybe something different.

[parrotheada1a]

 

When I did my Janice playthrough, I had to resort to a youtube video to solve how to remove the dirt pile in the castle. I thought it was crazy that you had to open up the settlement menu. Once I did that, the hardest thing was dumping the dirtpile.

Primo: who the f**k is Janice?

Secundo: there's over fifty 'dirt piles' in the Castle...

Tertio: what has all this to do with the topic?

 

 

Janice was my first FO4 playthrough. I had modded the hell out of that game too, taught me a lot about how stuff worked. She was built as a sniper. I had to stop playing her because I didn't know how to progress. I had blown up the Prydwyn w/ the Railroad and also become the director of the Institute. I had finished 'Old Guns', and Preston went back to Sanctuary. He never asked me to do any more quests after that, talking to him resulted in that endless 'I just want to trade a few things" dialog loop.

 

Cleaning out the dirt pile in the basement corridor.... I needed to clear that out so I could finish Old Guns. Preston & Ronnie Shaw offered zero help or clues. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v142/parrotheada1a/Fallout%204/ScreenShot20ENH_zpsbzdtyyyw.jpg

 

Out doing Far Harbor.....

 

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Newly appointed Institute director

 

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Edited September 18, 2016 by parrotheada1a

[Moraelin]

If some settlers don't give you a quest, it might be because you already have the same quest for some other place. It can even be completed, but not handed in. You can't have the same quest twice, basically.

 

For example if Preston sent you to clear some ghouls for Oberland Station, and the guys at Nordhagen Beach ALSO have a ghoul problem, they don't give it to you until you hand in the first one.

 

In that aspect, I found Preston and for that matter the Castle radio to be more of a liability than a help, unless you're planning to get ALL 30 settlements anyway AND couldn't give a flip about which order you take them in. It's happened to me before that I can't take a settlement I really want, RIGHT NAO -- e.g., County Crossing to connect it to the Castle and Finch -- until I do some settlement at the end of nowhere, where the train falls off the map, and which I don't even want any time soon. 'Cause, you know, I don't have the places I'd want to connect it to yet.

 

I'm currently playing without having gone to Concord at all. As in, really, it's not even in my discovered places. And I find it actually a lot more enjoyable without Preston screwing up the order for me. I can take whichever settlements I want to, when I want to. It's actually rather nice.

[JimmyRJump]

If some settlers don't give you a quest, it might be because you already have the same quest for some other place. It can even be completed, but not handed in. You can't have the same quest twice, basically.

 

For example if Preston sent you to clear some ghouls for Oberland Station, and the guys at Nordhagen Beach ALSO have a ghoul problem, they don't give it to you until you hand in the first one.

 

In that aspect, I found Preston and for that matter the Castle radio to be more of a liability than a help, unless you're planning to get ALL 30 settlements anyway AND couldn't give a flip about which order you take them in. It's happened to me before that I can't take a settlement I really want, RIGHT NAO -- e.g., County Crossing to connect it to the Castle and Finch -- until I do some settlement at the end of nowhere, where the train falls off the map, and which I don't even want any time soon. 'Cause, you know, I don't have the places I'd want to connect it to yet.

 

I'm currently playing without having gone to Concord at all. As in, really, it's not even in my discovered places. And I find it actually a lot more enjoyable without Preston screwing up the order for me. I can take whichever settlements I want to, when I want to. It's actually rather nice.

Nah, you can get several quests for different settlements involving the same kind of problem (i.e. Ghouls or Raiders or a kidnapping) as there's more different locations for the source of the problem. It's a different matter for unlocking settlements. Just like the 'random' help requests the latter are pre-set but with less variation in the location department (most of the unlocking quests have only one location, like the one for unlocking Nordhagen Beach always involves cleaning Croup Manor of the local Ghouls,etc...).

 

Also, the problem with getting quests from Preston is that most folk turn-in the quest once it's done, of course getting a new one in the process. Just don't turn in the quest when done and avoid getting near to Preston when in Sanctuary as the git tends to give you new quests just passing by you, or you by him.

 

Getting a quest and failing to solve it in time isn't a problem either as you'll get the same identical quest again later on anyway.

 

Preston doesn't screw up the order, it's the player who does, in trying to act upon each and every quest you get.

Edited September 18, 2016 by JimmyRJump

[Moraelin]

Not really.

 

Check out the quest IDs. If it's the same quest ID, but a different location, you can't get it again until you finish the one you have.

 

The way radiant quests work is that you don't actually have a different quest for each village and location. There is a single quest ID, and it just gets a location assigned.

 

That said, there is some overlap between radiant quests which have similar objectives but different IDs, plus overlap with non-radiant quests like clearing the ghouls for Deb. So you can have a quest to clear the ghouls in tthat location from Deb, and a different one from, say, County Crossing. But that works only because they are actually different quests.

[JimmyRJump]

Not really.

 

Check out the quest IDs. If it's the same quest ID, but a different location, you can't get it again until you finish the one you have.

 

The way radiant quests work is that you don't actually have a different quest for each village and location. There is a single quest ID, and it just gets a location assigned.

 

That said, there is some overlap between radiant quests which have similar objectives but different IDs, plus overlap with non-radiant quests like clearing the ghouls for Deb. So you can have a quest to clear the ghouls in tthat location from Deb, and a different one from, say, County Crossing. But that works only because they are actually different quests.

Well, you just repeated what I said in my earlier reply, only less comprehensible :D

[Moraelin]

Considering that wat you actually wrote is, "Nah, you can get several quests for different settlements involving the same kind of problem (i.e. Ghouls or Raiders or a kidnapping) as there's more different locations for the source of the problem." if that sounds like what you said before, well... it's you who brought up comprehension, not me :tongue:

 

No, you can't get the same quest at the same time just because it's for a different location.

 

And considering that there is a finite and SMALL number of quests for unlocking locations, yes, there will be some you can't get if Preston already gave you that quest ID, until you do the location that Preston wants. There are 30 workshops in the Commonwealth. Even subtracting Sanctuary Hills and the Castle, that's 28 left. There aren't 28 radiant quests to unlock them. If you have ANY unlock quest active, there'll be SOME locations out there which can't give you their quest because it's the same ID.

 

Which brings us to, "Preston doesn't screw up the order, it's the player who does, in trying to act upon each and every quest you get." Which is false for the above reason. His quests are blocking you from getting some locations until you do his quests.