ginnyfizz Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 Oooh, children. I forgot about them. Skyrim has children. Omg, could you see players being arrested for child pornography for playing the game? Can't have nudity in a game where there's kids. Naaa, too risky for Bethesda and players alike. Down right scary when you think of it. I once uploaded a picture on Twitter of my Oblivion character without her shirt on to show how the mod was defective because my character had nipples on her arms and on her ribcage as well as on her boobs. It wasn't a sexy picture either. She was just standing there with her arms to the side looking straight ahead, she had really small boobies, too. A cup, so it's not like anything was in any way pronounced. But I lost my Twitter account just for having that loaded up on there. I thought it was ridiculous but you have to watch out for that these days. I'm sure Bethesda is only too aware of it. And lol to the person who said he or she wouldn't want to see a bunch of fat nords walking around naked, it would ruin the game...that cracked me.;D Shame about the Twitter account, but the problem you describe sounds rather like a case of using the wrong texture for your mesh than anything. Had you recently changed from one body mod to another? I don't get that comment about a bunch of fat Nords walking around naked - the default body model isn't fat, and neither the Bethesda Nord nor the real life Nordic peoples are any fatter than anyone else. In game I encountered the hot springs nude bathers and it didn't scare me. (Well the dudes had their loincloths on of course....) This is going to sound confusing but I find the fact that some people find the naked body, which we all have, disturbing, to be worrying. The idea that we should be getting across is not that naked bodies are bad per se, it's the context that the nudity is used in. There are some games where certainly the female player character has a nude body by default, I played Age of Conan for a while and this was the case. So it already is happening in M rated games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowscaleB1980 Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 I sympathise with the americans on this forum, who are repressed to the point where if a performer at a super bowl half time show has her nipple exposed, about half the population of america completely flips out over it. I do agree that Bethesda should leave nudity to the modders, because frankly there are those of us who really don't want it in the game...but there will be those who will want it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul1981a Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 How about giving the buyer the option to put the nudity in the game were you can choose at the install screen to add/not have the nudity in the game or a option in the main setting screen to switch it on or off. It like films on TV were they cut things out why if you going to show the film show the film as it was filmed. It's like saying that im too stuppid to turn it over or off if I don't wish to watch the blood and gore in say a film like robocop or terminator it the same with nudity if you don't what it don't have it in the game but don't tell me that I can't have it just because you don't what it. As in the end it what I choose that matters. I'm I right people. I hate people who try to force what they belive on to others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coroloro Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 "While I have nothing against nudity, I don't think it should be included. I think it is inappropriate and is in bad taste in a professional environment" Yes, of course... and you would never see nudity, in, say, a world class art museum, or perhaps a lawyer's office, or a mansion, or business environments of any kind... like outside office buildings. Very inappropriate! And I'm sure there is no precedent for it in TES (*cough* Daggerfall *cough*). I myself am a conservative Christian, but I grew up in a cultured psychiatric household and was taught - and still believe- that nudity in and of itself is not negative. Heck, I think the violence in TES is - and should be - far more inflamatory than nudity. The fact people get up in arms over games with nudity ... I guess they've given up on countering violence and just decided they'd focus on anything else they could protest on. Now, there's a difference between nudity, and sexually oriented nudity depicting sexual acts. But I think in games for mature audiences - the game IS rated M after all, which is the equivalent of R - there should be no issue with nudity. Kids under the age of 17 shouldn't be playing TES anyway, and IF they ARE, it's their PARENTS decision to expose them - again, the whole argument of parents taking up responsibility rather than wanting regulations to take care of their parenting for them. The rating "M" should be plenty enough. If their kid gets ahold of it anyway... hah, I think parents these days should be far more worried about drugs and STDs than games with nudity in them. Honestly! Just IMHO :) -Coro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evilllamas Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 If it was a game setting; 1000s of american mothers would decide that it would make little tommy's head explode, if he saw a boob; and try and get the game banned...Can't see the point too much for it; All the nude mods arn't for `realism` it's because you want to see your warrior queen or whatever, sans clothes.You filthy, filithy gamers.Aditionally...I don't want fat trollops without clothes wandering around skyrim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abaris Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 I guess they've given up on countering violence and just decided they'd focus on anything else they could protest on. I guess it's much more disturbing than that. Certain breeds of religious conservativism (no offense to believers) are less disturbed by violence than they are by nudity or sexuality. In my opinion, a travesty of religion, but game developers and film makers have to go where influencal lobbies can't hurt them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyclawolf Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 That would probably make a domino effect that will make beth Fus ro dah out of gaming industry TES VI with naked women and men > Critics will Uproar about this > News will be over it just like the No russian mission in MW2 > It will change into a rated A game > They will lose costumers to buy because half of the player are there are 12 year old people ranting about why they cant buy Adult rated games in Gamestop > 12 year olds will resort to Torrent > Every TES fans now have VI FREE and Beth just lost the game > Bethesda was a video game company like you, Then they took an arrow in their knees. ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
efikmalydoskonaly Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 I voted nay, although I used nude body mods for Oblivion. First of all, I believe that no matter what body Beth would release (Skyrim models are pretty decent for me) the modding community will eventually come up with a idealised, sexier version that will become "default" for many modded outfits. And that will be a nude one of course, so why bother with making it? Also, some people would not be very happy with it so it would be better to provide choice between nude and safe-for-wrok versions. But most of the people who would choose "nude" would mod it into "even-prettier-nude", so again, extra work and little audience. I don't care about all the "omg, some kid may play it and instead of just cutting of heads, see some female breasts" and I find it sad that such hysteria occurs in America, but I understand why someone doesn't want nudity in his game without being bigoted, body-hating etc. Frankly, I'm thinking right now whether I want a nude Skyrim body or not. On one hand, it's obvious eye-candy and gives me opportunity to dress/undress my character as I see fit (yay, I love playing with dolls), but on the other - I kind of like it that people wear lingerie. So each time I take an armor of an fallen enemy, I don't have to stare into her or his genitalia. I think that a mod that would change lingerie into some "second-layer" clothing would be cool - everyone wears it by default, but can be taken of the player, some companions or a corpse (if you really desire a naked corpse :) ) I see no problem with that being a mod, not a vanilla feature - there are many other things I see as obligatory (some realism mods) but I wouldn't want Bethesda to include it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brittainy Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 I'd rather see a setting that makes everyone ugly. Ok, not really, but seeing the amount of those types of mods being made is a little disturbing. Not everyone I encounter is beautiful, and not everyone's definition of "beauty" is the same. So I don't think it should be implemented in the actual game, itself.In defense of the mods, though, the game is not real life, and is, in fact, fantasy. So why not have everyone be "beautiful"? I guess live and let live--leave it up to the person who is creating the mod to determine how the people look. Oops. Didn't mean to get all philosophical. I vote "Nay". :tongue: Umm, Bethesda already make 98% of their characters ugly ^ :tongue: I say yes to nudity. Sick of prudish and childish restrictions on games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astaril Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 "While I have nothing against nudity, I don't think it should be included. I think it is inappropriate and is in bad taste in a professional environment" Yes, of course... and you would never see nudity, in, say, a world class art museum, or perhaps a lawyer's office, or a mansion, or business environments of any kind... like outside office buildings. Very inappropriate! And I'm sure there is no precedent for it in TES (*cough* Daggerfall *cough*). I myself am a conservative Christian, but I grew up in a cultured psychiatric household and was taught - and still believe- that nudity in and of itself is not negative. Heck, I think the violence in TES is - and should be - far more inflamatory than nudity. The fact people get up in arms over games with nudity ... I guess they've given up on countering violence and just decided they'd focus on anything else they could protest on. Now, there's a difference between nudity, and sexually oriented nudity depicting sexual acts. But I think in games for mature audiences - the game IS rated M after all, which is the equivalent of R - there should be no issue with nudity. Kids under the age of 17 shouldn't be playing TES anyway, and IF they ARE, it's their PARENTS decision to expose them - again, the whole argument of parents taking up responsibility rather than wanting regulations to take care of their parenting for them. The rating "M" should be plenty enough. If their kid gets ahold of it anyway... hah, I think parents these days should be far more worried about drugs and STDs than games with nudity in them. Honestly! Just IMHO :) -CoroWell Said! Agree 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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