Deception

[kvnchrist]

I've been thinking about the way the politicians are steadily trying to get their constituents to believe they are working for them and that the opposition is working to destroy everything they value. What I was wanting to know is do you think that deception is a tool of control or was it to create a vacuum that would suck the interest others have in the system.

 

I have friends on both sides of the political spectrum and neither of them demonize each other the way the politicians and the pundits that lap at their heels do.

Is this something instituted to lessen the faith in each other, by boring skepticism into the adhesive that once held society together.

 

Is this a backdoor power grab by turning us against each other, so that the power brokers can work with our attention turned elsewhere.

 

If so then can we not stop this hatefest by not mimicking their actions and parroting their words. Can we not think for ourselves an, at least contemplate that those up in Washington are at least equally capable of unscrupulous behavior. Just because we agree with what some of these people say, does that mean that they can't succumb to the enticement of power and act against the common good of us all for their own benefit.

[marharth]

In the sense of politics, I would consider deception a tool of control.

 

It is common human behavior to listen to whatever authority tells you, if you lie to enough people they will beleive it as truth.

 

It is really a issue when humans tend to try to fit in with a group as well as listening to authority at all times.

 

It takes a single person to get a lot of people to beleive something. If it becomes the majority, or the people who beleive it have the majority of power, most of the people without power will start believing it as well.

 

Deception is a tool of control, but it will only work for certain people, and only work on certain people.

 

Sadly, it works on the majority of the human race.

[HeyYou]

Politicians lie. It's what they do. They need to convince the people that vote for them that they do indeed 'have their best interests at heart', when nothing could be further from the truth. A politician has HIS/HER OWN best interests at heart, its all about what will get them re-elected, and that is: Doing what the campaign contributors tell them to. It's the golden rule. Those that have the gold, make the rules.

[Aurielius]

'Orchestra fides, nulla fides"- Cicero

Freely translated: No one trusts a politician.

[bben46]

Cicero had good reasons to not trust politicians. After all he was one. :tongue:

[SilverDNA]

Roughly translated:

Policy, which is the sanctuary, where crimes that otherwise would have the inevitable result of prison or death, where treachery otherwise provoke fiery indignation, where the lies that otherwise in general jeers would went down, that those not only from these otherwise natural consequences would be preserved, but where are all these crimes, betrayals and lies, as quite natural, if not laudable, viewed as confirmations of human nature.

Arthur Schnitzler

doctor, dramas, novels

Vienna, Austria, 1862 - 1931

[Ghogiel]

What I was wanting to know is do you think that deception is a tool of control or was it to create a vacuum that would suck the interest others have in the system.

What's the difference?

[kvnchrist]

What I was wanting to know is do you think that deception is a tool of control or was it to create a vacuum that would suck the interest others have in the system.

What's the difference?

 

 

The difference is to make people believe and take any faith out of others. One drives people to something and the other to drive them any from something.

[Ghogiel]

And which one isn't supposed to be control?

[kvnchrist]

And which one isn't supposed to be control?

 

 

Let's not get into a Clintonisque debate over the definition of Is, shall we. I'm not going to go around and around with you in a nonsensical game of 500 questions. I've given you my definition.