When a country's spys out your computer with a trojan

[SilverDNA]

It is no surprise to me that a more and more abusive government try's to knock at the borders of legality if you add dilettantism to it that can be abused by every one that calls himself a hacker then it seams get too much or do you have another opinion ?

If you don't have any idea what happened why a government oversteps his bounds then you might try the following link to an article of

 

DailyTech German Hackers: Gov't Trojan Capable of Planting Evidence, Cybercrime

 

There is a border what is acceptable and what not in laws.

How much privacy would you give your government away with every logging, with every unwanted shot of your web cam they can take and send around the world without you even knowing?

Now at which point someone can say government officials overstep their bounds and violated the laws or not?

When even fake evidence without you knowing can be placed on you computer... do you draw the line there?

 

Debate in 3 ... 2... 1.... go!

Edited October 11, 2011 by SilverDNA

[marharth]

Why is there not a option for no one?

[grannywils]

Not going to say too much on this thread, as it will lead me into troubled waters. I suspect there are those who might say that if you are innocent why should you care. To those I would say, "hogwash". Neither the government, nor anyone else has the right to illegally pry into my personal business, nor into that of my neighbors. Nor do they have the right to come up with methods of making it legal to serve their purposes.

[Ghogiel]

I'm against it.

 

Even if they do such things covertly, it needs to be illegal for them to be doing it.

 

The worst thing is, I don't know who you are supposed to complain to or what would happen and to who even if they were caught with their hand in the cookie jar. They don't even need a patsy to hang out to dry, It would be done by the very people who you'd expect to investigate it.

[marharth]

I personally think that governments should not spy on its people. This includes previous criminals.

 

I read the article but what exactly is this even supposed to be for? Is there a clear purpose for the existence of this trojan? Is it just to track crime in similar ways to wiretapping?

[Nintii]

Well I read the article and it doesn't really come as a surprise at all ... like I've stated elsewhere the noose of government control is tightening ... we are no longer as "free" as we'd like to think.

As it is through your mobile, smart card credit card, petrol card, bank cards etc it is possible to monitor you.

The list is endless.

I say a big NO to government using any form of monitoring of it's citizens at any level.

And normally the ace up their sleeve is the "we've got to watch the criminals" arguement.

This is where they get away with it.

[ub3rman123]

Then, inevitably, when something does happen, people blame the government for not knowing about it sooner.

[Lisnpuppy]

Governments fear mongering is what leads to this kinda crap. Make people so afraid they are willing to give up their rights.

 

However in a way its true...

 

You can be free...

 

or you can be safe.

[SilverDNA]

Additional info:

-The case blew up as customs officers at the entry of a suspect placed the Trojan on Lapp top.

-The transferring of the such collected data to another country is makes this especial suspicious and gives the persons who arranged it knew from the outset that it is illegal from the start.

 

Personal opinion aka 2cents:

No governmental official stands above the laws in a self called democratic state... unless.... they make the laws not the citizens, but then how much right do you have to call it a democratic state?

 

For the citizens, by the citizens, with the citizens and through the citizens... not around them, not beyond them, not without them and not with deceit and fraud of laws in a democratic state.