draconix Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 Anwar al-Awlaki and Samir Khan, two criminal US citizens were assassinated by the US government. This bold-faced denial to their rights to a trial by Jury effectively shakes our foundation as a nation. In this action, this administration usurped the power of the Jucicial branch altogether, playing judge, jury, and executioner.So I have to ask, why and when is this justified? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frakle Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 two criminal US citizens That's why. It's like saying policemen are unjustified to shoot at criminals if they use violence against them. Judging by these criminals' names, they're probably domestic terrorists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draconix Posted October 12, 2011 Author Share Posted October 12, 2011 So you are saying that all criminals should just be shot, and be done with it then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ub3rman123 Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 We're at war. They're aided the enemy in significant ways. That makes them an enemy. Just because they were born in the US does not give them the right to do whatever they want against our country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghogiel Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 two criminal US citizens That's why. It's like saying policemen are unjustified to shoot at criminals if they use violence against them. Judging by these criminals' names, they're probably domestic terrorists. You're analogy is a bad one imo. Police have no powers for assassination. It's entirely different to stab someone with a poison tipped umbrella as they are going about their business to having an armed confrontation which is resolved by taking them out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marharth Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 Police are allowed to kill in self defense, not hunt down criminals and shoot them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myrmaad Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 I think you will find the applicable laws under "treason". And for the record, my vow was to protect the flag from all enemies, foreign and domestic. It wasn't a police action. It was a military action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marharth Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 I think you will find the applicable laws under "treason". And for the record, my vow was to protect the flag from all enemies, foreign and domestic. It wasn't a police action. It was a military action."Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court. The Congress shall have power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted." Your not allowed to assassinate US citizens under treason. Did congress pass anything that strictly states you can assassinate US citizens? Also people are charged with treason, and the criminal justice system still takes place. You don't commit treason and get killed without a fair trial. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iva_Togurihttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomoya_Kawakita While the death penalty is a valid punishment for treason (which is a terrible idea imo), you still have to have a trial. "No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghogiel Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 (edited) I'm not 100% certain, but I believe a conviction of treason needs to found after a trial. edit, ninja'd Edited October 13, 2011 by Ghogiel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurielius Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 I think you will find the applicable laws under "treason". And for the record, my vow was to protect the flag from all enemies, foreign and domestic. It wasn't a police action. It was a military action.It's rare but I so do enjoy it when we are on the same page. :thumbsup: The sanction was legal and appropriate and I won't lose a minute of sleep over their demise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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