Battlefield3 Was this just a bad server or?

[CommanderCrazy]

with modern warfare 3 coming soon and bringing environmental destruction, maybe, sacreligiously, CoD might out-battlefield battlefield at the game battlefield has chosen to become.

Correction: Cover Destruction. Only objects like concrete blocks and sandbags can be destroyed. You still cant blow a hole in a random wall.

[antonkr]

with modern warfare 3 coming soon and bringing environmental destruction, maybe, sacreligiously, CoD might out-battlefield battlefield at the game battlefield has chosen to become.

Correction: Cover Destruction. Only objects like concrete blocks and sandbags can be destroyed. You still cant blow a hole in a random wall.

And the reason CoD games have little bugs is because its same s*** different disk sort of deal.

[PowderdToastMan]

Ive played the heck out of all these games and i would have to disagree.

 

Currently im at level 17 and have 800 kills and 400 deaths. I have been exclusivley using the sniper rifle - specifically the bolt action since the start of the game. I have used no other guns. I just unlocked the barrett. I have also played the coop mode.

 

First off, you say that you've been getting farmed by enemys at your spawn. Thats no fun and i may be fortunate to not have had that happen. Other than spawing at my new attack location on rush right after we take the pair of mcoms, ive yet to be farmed by an enemy. In my example, it is an ineviteble part of attacking. Ive played all the game modes and was only spawn killed once on team deathmatch. I am unsure if the spawn location is set or if it moves on that game mode but there was definitley not the programming in place like cod where they spawn you away from the enemy team. that was not present in bfbc2 so saying it is worse is factually incorrect in that respect.

 

I will say that i have had minor problems getting into a game using the find game feature on the ps3. On occasion, it has taken me 2 or 3 trys to get into a game. I always play with my friends as a squad and we have had severe trouble getting into a game together. In fact, we have never had an actual instance where all four of us started together on a team in the same squad. It usually took many attempts to move squads and send invites from within the current game. In most cases, it put us on oppisite teams. This is what really pisses me off, because if you use the switch team feature and finally get your squad together just the way you like it, the very next game you are on opposite teams and it has re-seperated your group. Then when you try to use the switch team feature again, it tells you that you cant do it that often. What a load of baloney! The coolest part of battlefield is that if you work as a team you cant lose, and the side that works as a team more is guranteed to win regardless of skill. That is still very true in this game and i will provide an examle in a moment but how can i play in that manner if i cant even get my squad together? Then if i have several squads that are not full and i try to manually join, it will not let me join them in most cases and will force me to join only one squad even if i manually select the squad i want. This is stuff that should have been fixed in the beta.

 

I find this game to be much more balanced. I could go on all day about this but i will give one example.

 

The vehicles and their guns are more powerful in this game. And there are no 4wheelers. because of this when a vehicle is incoming is essential that an engineer take them out as quickly as possible. Because recon class no longer has c4 and cant take out tanks, turreted vehicles can inhabit an area and change the tide of battle if an engineer is not johnny on the spot. It forces them into a job so they dont loose very quickly instead of running around subbing people. In bfbc2, every time i drove a tank into a mcom area, 15 snipers came out of the woodwork and started slapping c4 all over the tank. I know cuz i did the same thing.

 

Vindekarr, you seem very upset an i would disagree that this such an awful game. I played bfbc2 extensivley and all i encountered was level 50 medic's using m60's with acog scopes, and when everyone on the team was using that setup, thats all it took to win. The lmg's have more recoil in this game to counter the fact that they kill in 4-8 shots instead of 6-10. If you're upset cuz they nerfed your ability to kill people from really far away with a scoped fully automatic weapon with no recoil and never a need to reload, i can see why some people might be upset. But i dont know if thats your style.

 

When you say no balance, i wonder if you mean that they took away a huge advantage that u used to exploit getting lots of kills without dying. They did that to me. The reason i say that is cuz youve yet to give an example of lack of balance and how it has actually affected you. I have often masked my anger with something specific they change by complaining about generalities. Is there something specific that is different that is heavily affecting your gameplay?

 

You said "Well done DICE, you were asked to draw a circle, tried to draw the eifel tower, and ended up creating a barely playable scribble in the attempt."

"It's just become another one of those crappy generic twitch shooters"

What is a twitch shooter?

 

This is currently the best, most complex, most well balanced, most detailed mmofps in existance. There is no better game, but you induce a frame of mind that paints a picture that there are so many other better games out there and that this one is really really bad. I think most gamers would disagree with you. Most game review sites would disagree with you. I have no intention of playing the story but i hear it is not very good firom a "story standpoint" but i have heard nothing of problems with weaponry like you say.

 

All of my friends are hardcore bfbc2 players and none of them have had a single complaint about this game since we started playing.(other than the lobby problems)

Not to mention all the little stuff. The new gadgets, the ability to use supressive fire, the health meter, the flashlights and laser sights, the attachments, the knifing, the fact that it doesnt take an entire magazine to kill an enemy, the list goes on...

 

He hasnt released the new one yet but it should be out in a few days, but here is the old chart that shows bfbc2's weapon stats.

http://denkirson.xanga.com/722757523/bad-company-2/

 

Hopefully we will se the bf3 chart within the week.

 

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im trying to read reviews online to see if i can find more of what your talking about, but i wonder if its cuz i have the ps3 version and you have the pc version?

[Gracinfields]

Dunno how he was getting spawn camped because the only way its possible is on rush when you take the mcoms and your new base moves up. If it was conquest and your main base was camped then the server has likely had its borders tampered with as all the main bases are supposed to be out of bounds for everything except aircraft, and those home bases all have a very nasty and I think Indescrutible AA enplacement (was manning one and got sraffed and didn't take any damage from the pass).

 

As for people saying no inovation in this one their ignoring Micro destruction, Squad leaders have access to some of the old BF2 command ablities (Artillery seems to an unlock ablity as I haven't seen it yet DICE confirms its there), Vehicle customization, and enhanced weapon customization something that only BC2 has done before but not to this degree. Customization of weapon doesn't go as far as it could but it goes as far as they could go with out making the game even larger in physical size due to mesh and texture assets.

 

As for people calling BF3 a twiched based shooter their not looking at the tactical part of the game when it comes to actually winning the round. Certain two public groups playing against each other will come down to the skill of the players and how much semi team work they put in to taking objectives. But the best public group could never successfully take on a group of pre organized people of moderate skill because the public group isn't working toward one goal, their working on each of their on individual agendas and play styles. Heck in my battlefield 2 days I would get my 5 friends join a match and when we finally got on the same team together the 5 of us would all hold the top 5 slots in points and kill by the end of the match even against the home clan team.

 

To PowderdToastMan as for the issue of getting onto the same team as you buddies that is an autobalance issue sadly, if you where playing on the PC you could ask the admin to move you on to one team to play together. Granted some will move you while others will not as some don't want to spend the time attempting to balance the teams skill wise after the fact.

[Vindekarr]

Really? I haven't seen anything to suggest there's anything to stop people entering spawns, and I've been changing servers a bit.

[hoofhearted4]

well i havent gotten this game yet, and ill be getting it for Ps3, but i can say, from the demo i was never excited about this. the only reason im still getting it is because my friend is buying it for me as a late b-day present. other wise i wouldnt be getting this game. ive only ever played BFBC2, so maybe im spoiled. but prone is the dumbest s*** in a multiplayer fps imo. im sure a lot of you battlefield vets like it, but i dont. it just screams camping. that said, camping is most prevalent on Rush. which i stay far away from, i stick to TDM and Conquest. mostly TDM with friends.

 

but from the demo, i like BFBC2 FARRR better. in BF3 you die in two hits, and because ppl can prone in the bushes, you never have a chance to escape or find the person. my friend, whom i met on bfbc2, has the game and says hes highly disappointed. the campaign is complete crap. says there are a ton of bugs, like falling through the map, hit markers not registering, kill cams showing a wall, dead ppl not looking dead, they are stuck in the kneeling position or w.e.

 

i can honestly say im still debating if i even want this game. since im going with my friend when we get the game, i very well might change my mind and get something else, and if i wanna play an FPS, ill go back to bfbc2.

 

ive heard that not everything is destructible, like its less then in bfbc2??

 

idk. i mean i dont have the issues with servers and ppl messing with boundaries and stuff, but still, ive lost interest in this game ever since the demo....screw prone lol

[Halororor]

I'll be sticking to BC2 for now then. At least until I hear some more opinions on this game.

[CommanderCrazy]

There was no demo, it was a beta. A deliberate buggy release to get as many bugs as possible out. They didnt get all, and its obvious at times, but the devs are working on another patch.

[Vindekarr]

No, very little is destructible, and building's don't collapse at all now.

 

Sheds, prefabs and so forth aren't destructible, some(little) cover is, trees are, fences are, thats about it. If you call blowing a five foot hole in a wall but the building staying standding destruction then do so, but buildings don't collapse anymore, period,removing a major strategic feature of bad company.

 

BC2's combat was nailed down to a fine art, and one of the few truly balanced FPS out there. This isn't-if you enjoy getting shot in the back of the head the instant you respawn every ten seconds for the whole game, then you'll love it here.

 

Extremely unfriendly to new players, very limited tutorials(none really) and an extraordinarily steep progression slope-you start with a huge handicap, which is exactly the wrong way to do things, early on you will get annihilated often simply because you lack the resources of the other guys, like missiles or smoke cannisters.

 

Vehicles don't blow up as satisfyingly anymore, in campaign there's an explosion of black smoke that simply covers the vehicle disapearing.

 

Controls are a big step backwards and are copied straight from Black Ops.

 

Buggy as all hell.

 

Community is a hundred times more abusive this time round, almost never revives(if at all) hardly ever heals or drops ammo, and teamwork is nonexistant in public games.

 

The graphics aren't really that great excluding the particle effects, which really get in the way in multiplayer.

 

Verdict? just grab an older BF game for cheap, I'd recomend against touching this with any intention other than to toss it in a garbage can. (where I can fairly say it belongs)

Edited October 29, 2011 by Vindekarr

[PowderdToastMan]

No, very little is destructible, and building's don't collapse at all now.

 

Sheds, prefabs and so forth aren't destructible, some(little) cover is, trees are, fences are, thats about it. If you call blowing a five foot hole in a wall but the building staying standding destruction then do so, but buildings don't collapse anymore, period,removing a major strategic feature of bad company.

 

BC2's combat was nailed down to a fine art, and one of the few truly balanced FPS out there. This isn't-if you enjoy getting shot in the back of the head the instant you respawn every ten seconds for the whole game, then you'll love it here.

 

Extremely unfriendly to new players, very limited tutorials(none really) and an extraordinarily steep progression slope-you start with a huge handicap, which is exactly the wrong way to do things, early on you will get annihilated often simply because you lack the resources of the other guys, like missiles or smoke cannisters.

 

Vehicles don't blow up as satisfyingly anymore, in campaign there's an explosion of black smoke that simply covers the vehicle disapearing.

 

Controls are a big step backwards and are copied straight from Black Ops.

 

Buggy as all hell.

 

Community is a hundred times more abusive this time round, almost never revives(if at all) hardly ever heals or drops ammo, and teamwork is nonexistant in public games.

 

The graphics aren't really that great excluding the particle effects, which really get in the way in multiplayer.

 

Verdict? just grab an older BF game for cheap, I'd recomend against touching this with any intention other than to toss it in a garbage can. (where I can fairly say it belongs)

 

 

I was killed by destruction 3.0 by a building collapsing on me last nite. Buildings still do collapse, they just diddnt put mcom stations in buildings that do this time around. I dont know where your getting this info? On caspian border alone there are like 15 large buildings that you can collapse. You said sheds and prefabs arent destructible which is incorrect, all of those are destructible.

 

And you say the controls are the same as b/o. I hate to break it to you but they are the EXACT same controls as bfbc2 and are nothing like b/o. again, i dont know where your getting this info? you have played the game right?