BarefootWarrior Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 I just found out that playing 'off line' doesn't seem to be really 'off line'...what's with that? My game has the new patch / upgrade and I have been playing off line. I don't get this :devil: Now I am having crashing issues and have to get things sorted and get back my original configuration. I'm glad I always back up a new games setting and such. If this is what Steam does, I call it deceptive marketing and an invasion of privacy...wonder if the suits at Steam ever thought about that. Has this happened to anyone else? I'm glad you folks provided all this information, now I have to 'fix' my game... What next? .... :unsure: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaceTiger Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 Next we'll have Steam monitors. I don't mean that as in Steam COMPUTER monitors, they'll actually send someone to your house to watch you and make sure that you're not illegally modding the games or hacking. Oh, and the cost of the ppl watching you come from your pocket, not steam's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesterKing Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 One way around the update is (as 99% of you know) make a back up of your tesv.exe, log on to steam get the update, then restore from the back up. It seems that it doesn't try to update again. I've heard people say making your tesv.exe read only will make it so steam can't touch it. I have done both of these. I am on steam right now as well as looking at the properties of my exe and it is my 18.2mb exe. the original exe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesterKing Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 I've been getting fewer crashes now through no input of my own. It seems to be mostly when entering or exiting the map, or checking the quest log, when the black screen occurs, but it's also happened at random in many other places. Totally a stab in the dark, but I'm wondering if it may be the game's UI system that's triggering these crashes. I think of this because: The HUD is visible at all times during the game. The game likewise is currently known to hard hang at any time.The game appears to crash more often when utilising UI-heavy elements. (based on my account and a few others in this thread)Skyrim uses .swf (Flash) files for its UI.Flash is no stranger to crashing video drivers on all kinds of hardware. I'm not even sure if Skyrim actually runs its own Flash player under the hood at runtime, or whether the Gamebryo Creation engine just interprets .swf files the way it needs to without any actual Adobe Flash binaries, but anyway - just my hypothesis. i think you're on to something here. i usually crash right after i open up my map outside, or just after i close a menu and start to move. quite annoying to say the least but i've definitely noticed a correlation to the ui and my crashes I tend to crash every couple of hours with some high quality texture mods installed running the game on high graphics. It seems to happen on autosave though. This is confounding. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marthos Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 Next we'll have Steam monitors. I don't mean that as in Steam COMPUTER monitors, they'll actually send someone to your house to watch you and make sure that you're not illegally modding the games or hacking. Oh, and the cost of the ppl watching you come from your pocket, not steam's. Good, I really hope they do as it will give me the opportunity to twist their heads so far round by both lugs that they'll have to walk backwards just to see where they're going. If Steam wants to dictate to me they'll have to try to do it to my face, not through my computer. After the Exe replacing fiasco the other day, Steam is in offline mode and locked behind a firewall. Just glad I backed up the Skyrim folder immediately after install which means whatever Steam does in future its just a job of copy n pasting and MY game will run as I want it to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zatro Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 Well I installed Skyrim on my girlfriends laptop yesterday and played for 3 hours and the game runs great. Very strange her laptop runs it perfectly and my PC black screens every 15 min. Even though I hate playing games on a laptop, it's better than nothing. Here's her laptop specs:HP dv7-6135dxIntel i5 2.3Ghz8Gb ram ddr3AMD Radeon HD 6490M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leukozyt Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 (edited) Hey guys, I am following this thread for about a week now gratefully for all your proposals to fix the problem. I found now a solution for me by combinating two ways of given solutions and registered to try to help you out of this annoying situation: First my system: Intel E4300 1,8 Ghz @ 3,25XFX Radeon HD 4870 1024 MB4GB Corsair DDR2-800 RAMASUS P5Q Turbo 1. Install the other (maybe newer...dont know) AMD driver already posted by another user - Link:http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=354402 2. Decrease your GPU to the level it uses at 2d (power saving) mode. (in my case 3D mode is at 750 Mhz, 2D at 600 - the memory you can keep at it's normal level) 3. Pray! ;) - and play the game Some explanation if you are interested: I always had an issue with my graphic card when playing 3D games in case the card automatically switches between 2D and 3D mode ingame.The system hung up and showed the same behaviour we have now when trying! to play Skyrim. I fixed this problem for other games by using Riva Tuner and setting my graphic card fixed to the standart 3D level (GPU 750 - memory 900).But Skyrim didn't work with these settings. So now i decreased my GPU speed to the 2D level by using the AMD Overclocking option and my graphic card is not able to switch anymore between the levels. Summarized maybe Skyrim has an issue with the switching between the different modes (full power and power saving mode). So try to unterclock your cards to their 2D level and hope it helps. I know this is not the perfect solution but I can play the game at very high settings (standart for my system) and it runs really good. Only had a little lower fps in a cave with many candles. ^^But this card and system isn't really the best so with cards like the HD6XXX i think you should be able to play perfectly. Other posted solutions i tried unsucessfully:- Changing sound drivers- Disabling soundcard (It is not possible to start the game without a soundcard)- Underclocking the graphic card to a random level- HDD check if there are no corrputed files- Installing new graphic drivers- Several graphic card settings with Riva Tuner- Disabling firewall or other programs running in background- Checked my graphic card memory - everything is fine- Increasing the GPU cooler to 100% - played at max. 60° C FYI: I didn't try to increase my GPU level to e.g. 650 (standart in 3d 750Mhz). Maybe this is possible but i am not interested in trying but in playing right now! ;) Hope this helps somebody...in case let us know! ;) Have a good night! Edited November 24, 2011 by leukozyt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor. Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 (edited) I think i solved my exiting to Desktop, I thought to myself that the Directx 9 dll was the problem, and thinking to myself what if i switch it to a 64xdll. I figured why not use the dx11dll that comes with Skyrim in the Directx10 folder, funny enough it even increased fps. I'm currently using the d3dx11_42.dll and it seems to have stopped crashing for me :thumbsup: You can replace them in the Skyrims main folder. I'm running Windows 7 64bit pro oem. I figured the dx9dll was x86 and causing issues with the OS. Edited November 24, 2011 by Thor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryomitsu Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 I think i solved my exiting to Desktop, I thought to myself that the Directx 9 dll was the problem, and thinking to myself what if i switch it to a 64xdll. I figured why not use the dx11dll that comes with Skyrim in the Directx10 folder, funny enough it even increased fps. I'm currently using the d3dx11_42.dll and it seems to have stopped crashing for me :thumbsup: You can replace them in the Skyrims main folder. I'm running Windows 7 64bit pro oem. I figured the dx9dll was x86 and causing issues with the OS. Still funny how some ppl never bother reading topic header before posting something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor. Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 (edited) Exiting to windows is a crash in my opinion, it might not be a sever as some of you people are having but the simptoms are the same. And yes when it crashes-exits out i do get a black screen.Then its back to desktop. Edited November 24, 2011 by Thor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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