Mitigate Posted July 17, 2016 Author Share Posted July 17, 2016 (edited) Because modders, no matter what they say in public, are drooling at the prospect of (what they think) is 'easy money' when Bethesda re-introduces payment for mods. See the CS:GO-lotto scandal (Valve forcing under-aged illegal gambling into the gaming community by hiring economic and DRM experts to monetise virtual items, all while APPEARING to have clean hands)? Zenimax seeks to exploit the same types of foolish people by DRM prorecting mods and monetising them, using the same advice from economic experts. Get rich quick schemes never go away, cos there's always enough fools thinking they will be the ones getting rich, not the people running the con. People modded for FUN. If peeps wanted paying, there are millions of legit careers in every aspect of the computer creative fields. But Beth knows it only has to wave a TINY (to Zenimax) amount of money in front of the noses of modders, and many of them insanely fantasise that modding could become a 'career'. Same reason idiots play the lottery. Stage one, in the minds of such people, is the need to CREEP to Bethesda as hard as they can in the hope that their grovelling will 'pursuade' Beth to do what Beth has intended all along- to exploit modding with money. How many people have the brains NOT to play the lottery because they correctly understand the precepts of rational gambling? Not many. Nexus is an astonishing service, and deserves the greatest loyalty. Sadly Nexus is about to discover just how shallow and foolish most people are.If you compare making mod for money with playing the lottery then you don't really understand how mathematical probability works.Also you are drooling with envy. I underlined the words that show it. You are angry someone might make money and you are not getting a cut. Oh and Nexus is happily making money off mods without the modders getting a cut. And go to hell for declaring modding not legit work in a creative field. You seem to have missed the point. And mod authors ARE getting money on the Nexus, through donations. Edited July 18, 2016 by Mitigate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitigate Posted July 17, 2016 Author Share Posted July 17, 2016 (edited) Polite. Unless my door's been kicked in and I'm missing my silverware... Nope still there. Oh, thankyou. I actually thought I'd been a bit harsh at some points, but I've gotten a bit worked up over the topic. It's a passionate topic. The trick is to not make it personal. Edited July 17, 2016 by Mitigate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthmoor Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Haven't called anyone a sellout. If you ditch the Nexus to lick the scraps from Bethesda's table then you would be though.You have, and you just did again. It doesn't much matter if you're claiming it to be for future acts you disagree with or not. You're being plainly insulting in your approach. It's a passionate topic. The trick is to not make it personal.Then why are you doing exactly that by hurling insults at people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitigate Posted July 18, 2016 Author Share Posted July 18, 2016 (edited) Haven't called anyone a sellout. If you ditch the Nexus to lick the scraps from Bethesda's table then you would be though.You have, and you just did again. It doesn't much matter if you're claiming it to be for future acts you disagree with or not. You're being plainly insulting in your approach. It's a passionate topic. The trick is to not make it personal.Then why are you doing exactly that by hurling insults at people? Then you must be guilty of calling me a 'jet addicted, jackass troll'? If so, you cannot exactly judge. Nevertheless, I still maintain I am not hurling insults at anyone. If you are getting offended because you feel you would fit the bill at some point in the future, that's your choice to make. You are already getting paid for your mods on the Nexus. Even for patches. You get paid via donations. You will never be able to make a career selling mods... You're caught up in a dream if that's what you think. Edited July 18, 2016 by Mitigate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lelcat Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Haven't called anyone a sellout. If you ditch the Nexus to lick the scraps from Bethesda's table then you would be though.You have, and you just did again. It doesn't much matter if you're claiming it to be for future acts you disagree with or not. You're being plainly insulting in your approach. It's a passionate topic. The trick is to not make it personal.Then why are you doing exactly that by hurling insults at people? Then you must be guilty of calling me a 'jet addicted, jackass troll'? If so, you cannot exactly judge. Nevertheless, I still maintain I am not hurling insults at anyone. If you are getting offended because you feel you would fit the bill at some point in the future, that's your choice to make. You are already getting paid for your mods on the Nexus. Even for patches. You get paid via donations. You will never be able to make a career selling mods... You're caught up in a dream if that's what you think. Donations are not payment. And you got owned by Arthmoor. Because you called him a sell-out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitigate Posted July 18, 2016 Author Share Posted July 18, 2016 Haven't called anyone a sellout. If you ditch the Nexus to lick the scraps from Bethesda's table then you would be though.You have, and you just did again. It doesn't much matter if you're claiming it to be for future acts you disagree with or not. You're being plainly insulting in your approach. It's a passionate topic. The trick is to not make it personal.Then why are you doing exactly that by hurling insults at people? Then you must be guilty of calling me a 'jet addicted, jackass troll'? If so, you cannot exactly judge. Nevertheless, I still maintain I am not hurling insults at anyone. If you are getting offended because you feel you would fit the bill at some point in the future, that's your choice to make. You are already getting paid for your mods on the Nexus. Even for patches. You get paid via donations. You will never be able to make a career selling mods... You're caught up in a dream if that's what you think. Donations are not payment. And you got owned by Arthmoor. Because you called him a sell-out. You again? Nobody called anyone a sellout. Stop hiding behind him and jumping out to spit when the chance presents itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkborgelt13 Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Because modders, no matter what they say in public, are drooling at the prospect of (what they think) is 'easy money' when Bethesda re-introduces payment for mods. See the CS:GO-lotto scandal (Valve forcing under-aged illegal gambling into the gaming community by hiring economic and DRM experts to monetise virtual items, all while APPEARING to have clean hands)? Zenimax seeks to exploit the same types of foolish people by DRM prorecting mods and monetising them, using the same advice from economic experts. Get rich quick schemes never go away, cos there's always enough fools thinking they will be the ones getting rich, not the people running the con. People modded for FUN. If peeps wanted paying, there are millions of legit careers in every aspect of the computer creative fields. But Beth knows it only has to wave a TINY (to Zenimax) amount of money in front of the noses of modders, and many of them insanely fantasise that modding could become a 'career'. Same reason idiots play the lottery. Stage one, in the minds of such people, is the need to CREEP to Bethesda as hard as they can in the hope that their grovelling will 'pursuade' Beth to do what Beth has intended all along- to exploit modding with money. How many people have the brains NOT to play the lottery because they correctly understand the precepts of rational gambling? Not many. Nexus is an astonishing service, and deserves the greatest loyalty. Sadly Nexus is about to discover just how shallow and foolish most people are.Don't see how it is 'easy money' Nothing about making mods is really easy. And some modders already make plenty of money already without paid mods. Also, paid modding is not a scam... I do not know where you get that idea. I know people who make paid mods and I hear it is very lucrative. I am satisfied with with my career. No one is "drooling." No one "gets rich quick" from royalties. I don't understand your "lottery" and "illegal gambling" thing. This stuff is a hobby. Why would anyone *not* want to get paid for a hobby? I do not care either way about the paid mods argument, I am just annoyed people get so butt hurt about it. It seems like the only people complaining aren't the authors but the consumers. Beth/Zenimax is not some kind of evil group seeking to crowdsource and exploit modders, that makes no sense and is just paranoid. Anyone who thinks this please remove the tin foil hat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lelcat Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 (edited) You called someone a sell-out 2 times.And your whole boycott does not work, because you already bought the game and you will by Bethesda's next Fallout or Fallout with stupid swords. Edited July 18, 2016 by lelcat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitigate Posted July 18, 2016 Author Share Posted July 18, 2016 (edited) Because modders, no matter what they say in public, are drooling at the prospect of (what they think) is 'easy money' when Bethesda re-introduces payment for mods. See the CS:GO-lotto scandal (Valve forcing under-aged illegal gambling into the gaming community by hiring economic and DRM experts to monetise virtual items, all while APPEARING to have clean hands)? Zenimax seeks to exploit the same types of foolish people by DRM prorecting mods and monetising them, using the same advice from economic experts. Get rich quick schemes never go away, cos there's always enough fools thinking they will be the ones getting rich, not the people running the con. People modded for FUN. If peeps wanted paying, there are millions of legit careers in every aspect of the computer creative fields. But Beth knows it only has to wave a TINY (to Zenimax) amount of money in front of the noses of modders, and many of them insanely fantasise that modding could become a 'career'. Same reason idiots play the lottery. Stage one, in the minds of such people, is the need to CREEP to Bethesda as hard as they can in the hope that their grovelling will 'pursuade' Beth to do what Beth has intended all along- to exploit modding with money. How many people have the brains NOT to play the lottery because they correctly understand the precepts of rational gambling? Not many. Nexus is an astonishing service, and deserves the greatest loyalty. Sadly Nexus is about to discover just how shallow and foolish most people are.Don't see how it is 'easy money' Nothing about making mods is really easy. And some modders already make plenty of money already without paid mods. Also, paid modding is not a scam... I do not know where you get that idea. I know people who make paid mods and I hear it is very lucrative. I am satisfied with with my career. No one is "drooling." No one "gets rich quick" from royalties. I don't understand your "lottery" and "illegal gambling" thing. This stuff is a hobby. Why would anyone *not* want to get paid for a hobby? I do not care either way about the paid mods argument, I am just annoyed people get so butt hurt about it. It seems like the only people complaining aren't the authors but the consumers. Beth/Zenimax is not some kind of evil group seeking to crowdsource and exploit modders, that makes no sense and is just paranoid. Anyone who thinks this please remove the tin foil hat. But that is EXACTLY Bethesda and Zenimax's plan. If it wasn't, they wouldn't have jumped right in last year with paid mods... Of which they get majority of the profit, throwing you some scraps for your effort to make you feel special. Like the myth where a leech injects numbing saliva as it sucks your blood... Edited July 18, 2016 by Mitigate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitigate Posted July 18, 2016 Author Share Posted July 18, 2016 You called someone a sell-out 2 times.Proof? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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