StormHammer81 Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 (edited) Disregard. Edited February 23, 2013 by StormHammer81 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighkingUlfricStormcloak Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 I feel badly for her. Its plain to see that Ulfric and her have a past. It makes me sad to see a perfect example of a beautiful friendship split up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sajuukkhar9000 Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 (edited) And on the issue of Cyrodiil, I find it hard to believe that ALL of it will fall to the dominion. Leyawiin, Bravil and Perhaps Skingrad may, yes. However, tell me that Chorrol, Bruma and Cheydinhal will not find themselves in Skyrim's/Hammerfell's spheres of influence. Geographically, we can see that the next great war would be centered mostly around the cities of Anvil and Kvatch (on land, that is), and in the South-Western Oceans (particularly around Stirk, and Stros M'kai). And still, the Rift, as I have stated several times, is a fertile forest. With some investment in that area, and the province will be able to feed itself. And if not, how was it that Skyrim was so strong during the Interregnum if it had no means of subsistence? Considering that Chorrol and Cheydenhall fell last time, and that's when the Empire had the help of the Nords and rdguards, the likelihood of them falling without the help of the Nords and redguards is very likely. And Bruma is a mountainous town that cant provide any real resources, and need the resources of the other towns to survive, so once all the other cities fall, Bruma becomes a mini skyrim, all the Ad has to do is wait them out.  The Rift is vastly underutilized, it would take years to fully chop it down, build farms/mills, get people to work there, and start producing food in large enough quantities, the food shortage problems would have started long before they got that done, not to mention that all the people that it would take to man all those farms would undermine Skyrim's military defense.  and skyrim WASN'T strong during the Interregnum, they got tier asses HANDED to them by the akaviri, that's why they teamed up with the dunmer in the first place, because they realized how weak they were by themselves. Edited February 23, 2013 by sajuukkhar9000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayyyleb Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 I love his "Why I fight" Speech. Ulfrics that is.Ironically on my very first playthrough I immediately turned around and went straight to Solitude and the Legion after listening to that speech. I didn't buy a word of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighkingUlfricStormcloak Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 (edited) Well then my question is how exactly are the holds loyal to Ulfric surviving without these resources? @sajuukkhar9000 They were maybe weak militarily but not economically. Skyrim was divided in half and High King Jorunn the Skald King fought to reclaim his city (Windhelm) and then had to rally an army from the Rift and Eastmarch. Then when he retook Windhelm he marched into Morrowind to take the fight to the Akaviri, then when the fight became a stalemate the Nords allied with the dark elves and Argonians and defeated the Akaviri. Thus the Ebonheart Pact was formed and then TES Online takes place. So the Nords saw this as a potential point in time where their ancient rivals and them had a common goal and teamed up and kicked ass. They set aside their differences and became the most powerful faction at that point in time. The same thing happened with the USSR and the U.S. during the second world war. Complete opposite ideologies set aside to address a more important problem. (Well almost complete opposite anyway) The same thing could even happen between Hammerfell and Skyrim, very likely actually. And I dont see why not, after all both of them have more than enough reason too and easily have the capability. I could understand if they didnt take the fight to the Thalmor but It would make more sense if they did. Also, during the Interregnum there is no word of food shortages or them struggling with resources other than military power, which was fixed nearly immediately. So this talk of them not being able to support themselves is just a bunch of crap. Whiterun hold is very fertile as stated by Rorik in Rorikstead. Each village has its little farms which is enough for itself. Same with the cities. Plus even in the description it states the each Jarl in each hold is very independent so its not like Skyrim needs some big corporation to support itself. Each hold can support itself. I see several farms outside of each city which are very capable of supporting each city easily. Riften has the lake, Eastmarch has its port and hollyfrost farm and plenty of game and not to mention other resources to trade with, Whiterun hold has several farms outside the city that can easily support it, Falkreath is very fertile and also has plenty of game, the Reach also has several farms and mines to support its economy, Haffingar also has mines and its port, Hjalmarch is on the sea so given they could fish and hunt and trade, same thing with the Pale with its port, Winterhold is the only hold where I think they would have to rely on trade. Whiterun hold is also the trade hub of Skyrim and even the Khajiits state that Skyrims current situation is good for trade. So all in all Skyrim can very easily support itself. I havent seen once evidence supporting the idea that Skyrim relies on Cyrodiil for food. If there is evidence of it please point it out to me so I can analyze it. Also in the fact that if there were ever an AD invasion of Skyrim they will also have to deal with bandits. Considering in game that the guards claim "Been to long since we've had a good bandit raid." makes me think that these bandits have some balls. Balls enough to attack a city in Skyrim, thats ballsy. Edited February 23, 2013 by Stormcloak117 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormHammer81 Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 (edited) @sajuukkhar9000 Well, I thought about this some more and even though Ulfric may be sincere, there are entirely too many obstacles to Skyrim being completely independent. Seriously though, I very much so doubt that Skyrim is going to be a united country under Ulfric. I just can't shake that feeling. Very much doubt they will be able to feed themselves, much more actually work together. It's more likely Skyrim will rip itself apart even further under Ulfric. I played some more into it, you can't... you can't just alienate yourself from every other Province where they hate the Thalmor, and then expect everyone to just work together and things to be ok. Doesn't work like that. And neither should I turn on my Imperial brethren and expect the Stormcloaks to welcome me like nothing ever happened. No, I am Imperial first. Skyrim waited too long to rebel. Parts of Skyrim might make it on their own, but that, that's taking a big risk. You know, it's basically like the GSL Tournament with SC2 and IMMVP vs that other guy. He played one hell of a game and the ONLY WAY that IMMVP was able to finally beat that zerg player is for everyone to work together. What would he have done if his South expos were allowed to just secede and be ind? The zerg would have just killed them all, regardless of their beliefs and regardless of their intentions. Divide and conquer is the oldest and one of the best strategies an enemy will use. It leaves the enemy somehow completely *blameless* and puts you against yourself. No way I want any part in that. Also, I like how us Imperials will all forgive each other and just look to the future. You know, we all, we don't have to share exactly the same views and you know, it's not like, "If you're not with us your against us" B$. I think really and truly, the Empire is thinking clearly and wants what's best not just for itself, but for everyone involved, even the Thalmor. Because the Thalmor are a major player now and you can't just hide you head in the sand and "Hope they won't both you" like Ulfric says in the end. That's, that's, that's... omg... really?!?!?!?! (I was shocked when I heard him say that) And then, I've never had an Imperial whom I had a previous falling out with "disown me". Not one ever. Same reason I don't go to church anymore, even though I love the Lord. The Lord would love me regardless and for who I am... no matter what "offense" I may have committed. Kind of like where Tullius apologizes even though he was kinda in the right and Hadvar and Tullius see past you being a prisoner. They could have killed you, you know. You think Ulfric wouldn't have killed his prisoners if they were escaping? How much mercy and compassion did that SOB show his good, close friend Torygg? Then brought his wife out in public to make an example out of her too. Not to mention how the "Reachmen" wanted to just live in peace and govern their own land... until Ulfric took away their freedom... to try and secure his? That's a conflict of interest, the Empire's involvement comes second to that. If you believe in freedom so strongly, why would you even make such a deal with anyone? Furthermore, I agree that Titus Mede II was correct. Being a leader is a hard thing and REAL LEADER will not be popular, he will not be liked. TMII made some hard decisions and because of him, the Empire stands a chance today. Hammerfell should leave the Empire, if they can't stop fighting amongst themselves and won't contribute to the general cause, then they need to leave for a while and straighten themselves out. Getting back to TMII, no way in hell could he have recaptured Cyrodil on his own, not with the Legions so diminished and 3 others lost entirely. WGC was the *only* way out for him at that time. The biggest obstacle for him would have been time, to successfully siege 6 or 7 cities + restoring administration in each + terrain + remaining Legions @ 40% + lack of funds + counter attacks == NOT POSSIBLE. If TMII had not signed that treaty with Thalmor were their weakest, it would have all been over. Thalmor still had significant forces left guarding those cities, it was their primary offensive force + reinforcements which were destroyed. True, that Secondary force was turned back in Hammerfell but the difference there was the Thalmor weren't dug in so deeply there. Thalmor had control of the lower half of Hammerfell, they didn't have NEARLY EVERY single city under their control. The combat theater was very different in Hammerfell than what happened in Cyrodil. And of the only force left, most of them died retaking IC. And if Skyrim secedes, we will have nothing left. This is about survival, at least for now. Least until the Dominion has been put to bed. Although I would be for a change in leadership, TMII should resign.  So anyways, I've said enough and if any Imperials need me or whatever just let me know. Thanks!!!! [ :smile:]  LOVE LIVE THE EMPIRE!!!  Btw - Specifically I am referring to Game 4 with IMMVP vs Nestea Go watch it on YouTube... that sh*t was crazy. Edited February 23, 2013 by StormHammer81 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RighthandofSithis Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013  And on the issue of Cyrodiil, I find it hard to believe that ALL of it will fall to the dominion. Leyawiin, Bravil and Perhaps Skingrad may, yes. However, tell me that Chorrol, Bruma and Cheydinhal will not find themselves in Skyrim's/Hammerfell's spheres of influence. Geographically, we can see that the next great war would be centered mostly around the cities of Anvil and Kvatch (on land, that is), and in the South-Western Oceans (particularly around Stirk, and Stros M'kai). And still, the Rift, as I have stated several times, is a fertile forest. With some investment in that area, and the province will be able to feed itself. And if not, how was it that Skyrim was so strong during the Interregnum if it had no means of subsistence? Considering that Chorrol and Cheydenhall fell last time, and that's when the Empire had the help of the Nords and rdguards, the likelihood of them falling without the help of the Nords and redguards is very likely. And Bruma is a mountainous town that cant provide any real resources, and need the resources of the other towns to survive, so once all the other cities fall, Bruma becomes a mini skyrim, all the Ad has to do is wait them out.  The Rift is vastly underutilized, it would take years to fully chop it down, build farms/mills, get people to work there, and start producing food in large enough quantities, the food shortage problems would have started long before they got that done, not to mention that all the people that it would take to man all those farms would undermine Skyrim's military defense.  and skyrim WASN'T strong during the Interregnum, they got tier asses HANDED to them by the akaviri, that's why they teamed up with the dunmer in the first place, because they realized how weak they were by themselves. Well, last the the Nords and redguards (although, given their nature, where they really in the army?) really came into Cyrodiil in Red Ring, judging by 'The Great War'. That said, you are saying that when the Empire collapses, all of it will go to the dominion? No, each city will look for its closest protector, the the north, that happens to be Skyrim and Hammerfell. They will, effectively, become client kingdoms. Firstly, Skyrim needs not worry about a war for years anyway, and Ulfric acknowledges it will take years to rebuild Skyrim into an independent power, but the arguement below will explain why Skyrim is not entirely dependent on Cyrodiil. That said though, you were the one who asserted gameplay=/= Lore, so when the Rift already holds 4 farms, tieing with Whiterun for the most farms in game, are we to assume that it has considerable more farmhouses and plantations already? In fact, the prosperous farms in Whiterun give another assertion, that, for whatever reason, the Nords know how to work such hard fields (evidently seen in Rorrikstead, but also in Whiterun proper). While Yes, it took years for such farms to develop, it makes a point that farms already exist (a number of them), and that the Nords can, and have, utilised the agricultural ability of Skyrim. Hell, even Eastmarch is part of the agricultural superstructure, being a 'predominantly agricultural hold'. And even Galmar makes reference to farmers in his speech at Whiterun. So this conflicts with Sybille Stentor's comment: Because the food and resources we get from the Empire are important to our people. Perhaps Bethesda has overrepresented the farms in Skyrim? But that doesn't account for establish quotes from Rorrik and galmar, along with texts suggesting at Skyrim's agriculture. Perhaps all of SKyrim's produce is taken by the Empire, and then, for whatever reason, it is replaced by food from Cyrodiil? That makes no sense, and I see no reason why the Empire would do that. So I'd say her comments are actually about the war, that Cyrodiil must provide food to feed the troops, and the people (as we know what war can do). The interregnum, between the Second and Third Empires. Skyrim was strong, they actually defeated the Akaviri (scaring them off, no small feat). If you are refferring to the Ebonheart Pact as proof that Skyrim was weak, well, 1 state would be in the face of two forged alliances (Giving weight to the Redguard-Nordic Alliance). And a few of sources suggest the power that Skyrim has always wielded, and its ability to sustain itself:   It is one of the ancient seats of power in the Empire and well-populated by the Nords.-Pocket Guide the the Empire, 3rd Edition This states two things, 1, that Skyrim has awlways been strong, and 2, the Nords have a rather high population. So we conclude from both of these statements that for Skyrim to be an ancient power (ie, having been a power for centuries or even millennia) with a high population, it must have had the means to support itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikecheese1337 Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Winterhold is fine for food because of the presence of the College - wizards can summon food, as shown in the book "The Woodcutter's Wife". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighkingUlfricStormcloak Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 (edited) "A great darkness is growing, and soon we will be called to fight it, on these shores or abroad. The Aldmeri Dominion may have defeated the Empire but it has not defeated Skyrim!" - Ulfric Stormcloak "There will be peace for a time, during which we must rebuild Skyrim into the land it once was, strong, self reliant, the center of mankind. Because getting rid of the Empire was only half the problem. Soon the elves will again seek to rule the world, we must ready ourselves to fight them for it will be Skyrim that shall lead Tamriel in those dark days, when they fate of the world is finally determined." - Ulfric Stormcloak "I challenged him in the traditional way, and he accepted. There were many witnesses, no murder was committed. True, he didnt stand a chance against me, but that was precisely the point, he was a puppet king the Empire, not a High King of Skyrim. His father before him perhaps but not Toryyg, he was to privileged and to foolish. More interested in entertaining his queen than ruling his country. " - Ulfric Stormcloak That is totally true. In Sovngarde Toryyg says that his only regret is leaving Elisif behind. Im not quoting him because I dont know it word for word.  "Not entirely true, though not entirely false either. Any Nord can learn the way of the voice by studying with the Greybeards, given enough ambition and dedication. My shouting Toryyg to the ground, proved he had neither. However it was my sword piercing his heart that killed him." - Ulfric Stormcloak "Were fighting because were done bleeding for an empire that wont bleed for us. Untold numbers of Nords died defending the Empire against the Dominion. And for what? Skyrim being sold to the Thalmor so the emperor could keep his throne. Were fighting because our own Jarls, once strong, wise men have become fearful and blind to their peoples suffering. Were fighting because Skyrim needs heroes, and theres no one else but us." - Ulfric Stormcloak  "I killed Toryyg to prove our wretched condition, how can the High King be the defender of Skyrim, if he cant even defend himself?" - Ulfric Stormcloak  "There hasnt been a true High King in Skyrim for generations. For to long he has been hand picked by the Emperor and given emphatic nods by milk drinking Jarls addicted to Imperial coin. Its time we had a real High King, one of our own making. "My father, the Great Bear of Eastmarch, died during my imprisonment after the Markarth incident. I his onyl son, forced to deliver his Eulogy via letter, I had smuggled out of prison, such is the love of Titus Mede for his subjects. When finally set free, I returned to Windhelm and was greeted by a city in mourning. At one with my own grief and anger, clambering and angry voices, calling out for justice, for war, sat me on the throne. The Throne of Ysgrammor, the Throne of my father. I only hope I can prove worthy of that honor." - Ulfric Stormcloak Enough with paraphrasing Ulfric's dialogue.  "I fight for the men I've held in my arms, dying on foreign soil. I fight for their wives and children who's names I heard whispered in their last breath. I fight for we few who did come home only to find our country full of strangers wearing familiar faces. I fight for my people, impoverished to pay the debts of an Empire to weak to rule them, yet brands them criminals for wanting to rule themselves. I fight so that all the fighting I've already done hasnt been for nothing. I fight because I must." - Ulfric Stormcloak Edited February 23, 2013 by Stormcloak117 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighkingUlfricStormcloak Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 (edited) <p>Thats not even all of it. He has much more.<br /><br />Sometimes I think he has the most dialogue, maybe matched with Paarthurnex (however its spelled)<br /><br /><br />Galmar:"Balgruuf won't give us a straight answer."<br />Ulfric: "He's a true Nord. He'll come around."<br />Galmar: "Don't be so sure of that. We've intercepted couriers from Solitude. The Empire's putting a great deal of pressure on Whiterun."<br />Ulfric: "And what would you have me do?"<br />Galmar: If he's not with us, he's against us.<br />Ulfric: He knows that. They all know that.<br />Galmar:How long are you going to wait?<br />Ulfric: You think I need to send Balgruuf a stronger message.<br />Galmar: If by message you mean shoving a sword through his gullet.<br />Ulfric: Taking his city and leaving him in disgrace would make a more powerful statement, don't you think?<br />Galmar: So we're ready to start this war in earnest then?<br />Ulfric: Soon.<br />Galmar: I still say you should take them all out like you did Deadking Torygg.<br />Ulfric: Torygg was merely a message to the other Jarls. Whoever we replace them with will need the support of our armies.<br />Galmar: We're ready when you are.<br />Ulfric: Things hinge on Whiterun. If we can take the city without bloodshed all the better. But if not...<br />Galmar: The people are behind you.<br />Ulfric: Many I fear still need convincing.<br />Galmar: Then let them die with their false kings.<br />Ulfric: We've been soldiers a long time. We know the price of freedom. The people are still weighing things in their hearts.<br />Galmar: What's left of Skyrim to wager?<br />Ulfric: They have families to think of.<br />Galmar: How many of their sons and daughters follow your banner? We are their families.<br />Ulfric: Well put, friend. Tell me, Galmar, why do you fight for me?<br />Galmar: I'd follow you into the depths of Oblivion, you know that.<br />Ulfric: Yes, but why do you fight? If not for me, what then?<br />Galmar: I'll die before elves dictate the fates of men. Are we not one in this?<br />Ulfric: I fight for the men I've held in my arms, dying on foreign soil. I fight for their wives and children, who's names I heard whispered in their last breaths. I fight for we few who did come home, only to find our country full of strangers wearing familiar faces. I fight for my people impoverished to pay the debts of an Empire too weak to rule them, yet brands them criminals for wanting to rule themselves! I fight so that all the fighting I've already done hasn't been for nothing. I fight... because I must.<br />Galmar: Your words give voice to what we all feel, Ulfric. And that's why you will be High King. But the day words are enough, will be the day when soldiers like us are no longer needed.<br />Ulfric: I would gladly retire from the world were such a day to dawn.<br />Galmar: Aye. But in the meantime, we have a war to plan.<br /><br />Approaching Ulfric afterwards, he will remark: "Only the foolish or the courageous approach a Jarl without summons... do I know you?" Acknowledging that you have met before, he will recognize you: "Is that so...? Ah yes, you were with us at Helgen. Destined for the chopping block if I'm not mistaken." Telling him that you wish to join the Stormcloaks, he will say "I'm always looking for able fighters. Not everyone can say they made it out of Helgen. Seems we're all branded villains these days... So long as your criminal past stays in the past, and you fight for me with honor and integrity, we'll welcome you into our ranks." He will then direct you to speak to Galmar, who tasks you with killing an ice wraith on Serpentstone Isle. If you approach Ulfric anytime before you've completed the task, he will tell you: "I believe Galmar gave you something to do. So go do it."<br /><br /><br />Ulfric: Tell me again why we're wasting time and dwindling resources chasing a legend. We don't even know it exists!<br />Galmar: The Jarls are upset. They don't all support you.<br />Ulfric: Damn the Jarls.<br />Galmar: They demand the Moot.<br />Ulfric: And damn the Moot! We should risk letting those milkdrinkers put Torygg's woman on the throne? She'll hand Skyrim over to the elves on a silver plate.<br />Galmar: All the more reason then. The crown would legitimize your claim.<br />Ulfric: A crown doesn't make a king.<br />Galmar: No, but this one...<br />Ulfric: If it even exists.<br />Galmar: It exists. And it'll be the symbol of the righteousness of our cause. Think about it. The Jagged Crown! It heralds back to a time before jarls and moots. Back to the time when a king was a king because his enemies fell before him, and his people rose because they loved him. Skyrim needs that king. You will be that king, Ulfric. You must be.<br />Ulfric: You're certain you've found it?<br />Galmar: When have I ever been false with you?<br />Ulfric: Fine. I'll send the Unblooded here with you. Fancy a crawl through a moldering dungeon to see if you can't stir up Galmar's Jagged Crown?<br />Galmar: It'll be there. You'll see.<br /><br /><br />Ulfric: You were right Galmar.<br />Galmar: Again?<br />Ulfric: I'm in no mood to joke.<br />Galmar: Give the word, my lord, and Whiterun is yours.<br />Ulfric: Whiterun is only a means to an end.<br />Galmar: I've toured our camps. We're ready, Ulfric... Whenever you are.<br />Ulfric: Is any man ever ready to give the order that will mean the deaths of many.<br />Galmar: No. But neither is every man able to give that order when he must. But you are that man, Ulfric. You've been that man before, and you'll be him again. And these men and women - they call themselves Stormcloaks because they believe in you... They're the meanest, toughest sons of bitches Skyrim has to offer. And they want this. They want this as much as you do. Perhaps they want it more.<br />Ulfric: You're certain we're ready? Whiterun's army will no doubt be bolstered with Legionnares . And those walls around Whiterun are old, but they still stand.<br />Galmar: We're ready. And I might be old myself, but I'll kick those damn walls down with my bare feet! - if you would only ask me to do it!<br />Ulfric: And I'm sure you could do it, too. Alright. This is it.<br />Galmar: Yes!<br />Ulfric: Send the word. A new day is dawning and the sun rises over Whiterun.<br />Galmar: Aye, and the sons of Skyrim will greet that dawn teeth and swords flashing.<br />Ulfric: So it begins.<br /><br /><br />Ulfric: Secure the door.<br />Galmar: Already done.<br />Rikke: Ulfric. Stop.<br />Ulfric: Stop what? Taking Skyrim back from those who'd leave her to rot?<br />Rikke: You're wrong. Ulfric. We need the Empire. Without it Skyrim will assuredly fall to the Dominion.<br />Galmar: You were there with us. You saw it. The day the Empire signed that damn treaty was the day the Empire died.<br />Rikke: You're a damn fool.<br />Galmar: Stand aside woman. We've come for the General.<br />Rikke: He has given up. But I have not.<br />Ulfric: Rikke. Go. You're free to leave.<br />Rikke: I'm also free to stay and fight for what I believe in.<br />Ulfric: You're also free to die for it!<br />Rikke: This is what you wanted? Shield brothers and sisters killing each other? Families torn apart? This is the Skyrim you want?!<br />Galmar: Damnit woman, stand aside.<br />Rikke: That's not the Skyrim I want to live in.<br />Ulfric: Rikke. You don't have to do this.<br />Rikke: You've left me no choice... Talos preserve us.<br /><br />Both Rikke and Tullius will engage in combat. Once Rikke is defeated, Tullius will surrender himself:<br /><br /><br />Ulfric: This is it for you. Any last words before I send you to Oblivion?<br />Tullius: You realize this is exactly what they wanted.<br />Galmar: What who wanted?<br />Tullius: The Thalmor. They stirred up trouble here. Forced us to divert needed resources and throw away good soldiers quelling this rebellion.<br />Ulfric: It's a little more than a rebellion, don't you think?<br />Galmar: Heh.<br />Tullius: We aren't the bad guys you know.<br />Ulfric: Maybe not, but you certainly aren't the good guys.<br />Tullius: Perhaps you're right. But then what does that make you?<br />Ulfric: You just said it yourself.<br />Galmar: It makes us right.<br />Tullius: And if I surrender?<br />Ulfric: The Empire I remember never surrendered.<br />Galmar: That Empire is dead. And so are you.<br />Tullius: So be it.<br />Galmar: Just kill him and let's be done with it already.<br />Ulfric: Come, Galmar. Where's your sense of the dramatic moment?<br />Galmar: By the gods! If it's a good ending to some damn story you're after - perhaps the Dragonborn should be the one to do it.<br />Ulfric: Good point.<br /><br />At this point, you can either choose to take the honor of executing General Tullius or allow Ulfric to do so instead. Ulfric will approach you afterwards, saying: "Stormblade. I want you to have my sword, a token of my appreciation. Now then. The men will expect a speech . Will you stand by my side? I wish to honor you, Dragonborn and the truest of Stormcloaks." You can choose whether to be included in the speech or not. If you choose not to, then Ulfric will skip the Dragonborn introduction.<br /><br />Galmar: Good. It's done.<br />Ulfric: Well, I suppose some kind of speech is in order.<br />Galmar: I'll go gather the men in the courtyard.<br />Ulfric: And Elisif?<br />Galmar: Don't you worry about her. I've sent my best men to round her up.<br /><br />Afterwards, both Ulfric and Galmar will exit Castle Dour. Ulfric will then begin to address his speech to the people:</p><p><br />Well, I suppose some kind of speech is in order.<br /><br />Galmar: And now, I present to you, Ulfric Stormcloak, hero of the people, liberator and High King of Skyrim!<br />Ulfric: I am indeed Ulfric Stormcloak, and at my side the man we know as Stormblade, and the world knows as the Dragonborn. And indeed, there are many that call us heroes. But it is all of you who are the true heroes! It was you who fought a dying Empire who sunk its claws into our land, trying to drag us down with it. It was you who fought the Thalmor and their puppets who would have us deny our gods and our heritage. It was you who fought your kin who didn't understand our cause, who weren't willing to pay the price of our freedom. But more than that, it was you who fought for Skyrim, for our right to fight our own battles... To return to our glory and traditions, to determine our own future!<br />Soldiers: Huzzah!<br />Ulfric: And it is for these reasons that I cannot accept the mantle of High King. Not until the Moot declares that title should adorn my shoulders will I accept it.<br />Soldier: And what about Jarl Elisif?<br />Ulfric: Yes, what about the Lady Elisif? Will she put aside her personal hatred for me, and her misplaced love for the Emperor and his coin, so that the suffering of our people will end? Will she acknowledge that it is we Nord's who will determine Skyrim's future? Will she swear fealty to me, so all may know that we are at peace, and a new day has dawned?<br />Elisif: I do!<br />Ulfric: Then it is settled. The Jarl will continue to rule Solitude, I will garrison armies here to ward off Imperial attempts to reclaim the city. And in due time, the Moot will meet, and settle the claim to High King once and for all. There is much to do, and I need every able bodied man and woman committed to rebuilding Skyrim. A great darkness is growing, and soon we will be called to fight it, on these shores or abroad. The Aldmeri Dominion may have defeated the Empire, but it has not defeated Skyrim!<br />Soldiers: [cheering]<br /><br />After addressing the people with a speech, Ulfric will then confide to Galmar:<br /><br />Ulfric: How'd I do?<br />Galmar: Eh, not so bad. Nice touch about the High King.<br />Ulfric: Thank you, I thought so, too.<br />Galmar: It's a foregone conclusion, you know.<br />Ulfric: Oh, I know.<br />Galmar: The Imperials aren't going to leave us alone. They still have camps in the hills. They'll continue to strike out at us, whenever and wherever they can.<br />Ulfric: I'm not afraid of the remnants of the Legion, in time they'll all give up and go home. What I fear, is that the Thalmor will see our victory here and turn greater attention to our shores. We must be prepared to face them.<br />Galmar: Aye.<br />Ulfric: (to you) And of course, we couldn't have done it without you. May the gods preserve you.</p><p>Galmar: May the gods preserve us all.<br />Ulfric: Come, Galmar. We've still much work to do.<br /><br />Ulfric: No, not yet. We'll wait for the Moot to name me High King. It'll be better for all that way. But, that doesn't mean I won't start acting like it. There's much to do. The new Jarls need help building armies, and enforcing their right to rule. The Empire may try to reclaim Skyrim, and I need everyone ready for that. Though the biggest threat, of course, is the elves.</p> Edited February 24, 2013 by Stormcloak117 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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