dpgillam Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Many good points Sorry to cut it short. Great post, but I dislike long copies. Personal thing. The reason I said "anime" instead of "loli" specifically is because it doesnt matter what genre you prefer, or what game you play, there will be a "loli" character in it. What I find interesting is that no one minds "adorable face". No one minds "yng Nord" body or "UNPetite" or even "x117" bodies, all based on the 12-16 yr old female frame. As we saw with the mod "Sassy Teens" no one even minds combining the child faces with the teen bodies, as long as they are over a certain height. But when I make a character with adorable face, unpetite body, and set her height at less than .90 height, in the same armor I use for other females, all the moralists start freaking out because they start seeing pedo-sex. Im not thinking pedo-sex. Im just thinking Im going to have a fun romp through as a innocent bubbly ditzy valley girl killing dragons; that whole cheerleader with a chainsaw against zombies thing. So, who is the actual pervert? Them, seeing and thinking pedo-sex? Or me, seeing and thinking "Buffy the Vamp Dragon slayer"? Im not responsible if you perv on something; I dont know your kinks/fetishes (and I DONT WANT TO! Gotta repeat that constantly; for some reason gays feel incomplete if they havent outed themselves to a total stranger at least once a day :roll: ) You perving, you being offended, you ANY-F*CKING-THING aint my fault. (sorry, just got done trying to pound this point into some retard's head a few minutes ago. Still kinda grumpy about it) To me, this subject is exactly the same as "mortal children" mods. Too many moralists climb on their high horse over mods that make kids kill-able. Well, when a dragon attacks Riverwood, and the 2 kids are the only ones to survive, and they actually kill the beast with their little daggers because "kid immortality", yeah, I find that ruins my game. The reason kids are so protected in the real world is because they are so helpless and defenseless. By making them the same in my game, it pushes me to be the better hero, trying to save them. (well, I do use "take cover" and "flee vampires" mods too) My mod-list creates a world I want to be a hero and save. Showcasing the parts of the real world I find beautiful and worth saving, while removing what I dislike. Beautiful little girls in Disney princess dresses? The ones that look just like my nieces? Teens skating between sweet and slutty as they try to find themselves and their place in the world? A mix of modest and pure women covered head to toe and the typical fantasy wh*%#-corpse with a few acting different from their appearance just to remind that you never judge a book by its cover? You'd probably find my Skyrim a very offensive and disturbing place. To me, its all the filth and garbage that infests this "real world" removed, while the important parts remain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElioraArin Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 In response to dpgillim's post - I believe that this is exactly what the OP wanted, some insight into the ACTUAL reasons why these mods exist as opposed to the awful ones that are always implied. And if you're going to play as a Buffy character she is of course going to want a group of like minded peers that she can relate to!I had never considered your take on child mortality before, & to be honest I never understood why people would want a mod like that in their game (I can't even bear it if my horse dies!) - but ultimately they were probably designed for more honest realism & immersion (personally I prefer a bit of fantasy that prevents that kind of tragedy, but now I can see why people use such mods). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NexusComa Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 Kids today don't care what you think or believe in ... in fact they don't even pick a side at all ... they just feel the need to debate anything. You say Up they will give you 100 reasons to go Down ... Then go Up themselvesor Down solely in an effort to try and prove you wrong at any cost. There would be no problem with "little girls" in the game, if they were not made to look sexy. But most the "little girl" mods, try to make them look sexy.You can't talk about morels to a generation that has none ... I seen a mod on the top 10 list just the other day of 2 girls with ridiculously over sized boobs. The 2 girls looked terrible in every way but, somehow(I think you know why) it made the top 10 list. I think you just have to realize many "players" are perverts. It would be nice if the authors of such mods would spend their time building up a great D&D style game tobe an even better D&D style game. But, you get what you get in the fray. Despite the perverted mods there are some great mods here that really do add to the games content. If it makes someone money anything goesin today's world right or wrong. You can thank God Money for that ... This is my personal opinion and despite the debate comments that are sure to follow I have a right to my own opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElioraArin Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 "RS Children" is honestly fantastic to make the vanilla children look beautiful in a completely child like way.When looking for an older child that I could occasionally take out into the world I didn't come across any "sexy" little girl mods, just a couple that I thought were very beautiful but unfortunately appeared to be "shrunken" adults - I didn't get the impression that it was an attempt to sexualise the mod but a limitation in the modders ability, I could swear I even read as much.I then found an absolutely brilliant non sexualised teen mod with unique voice acting & all, again I didn't find it sexy but it was still getting negativity directed at it anyway. I believe I even saw it mentioned unfavourably in this thread, which is utterly ridiculous.There are obviously stupid cringe worthy mods that take a perverted twist on the womanly form. If there are mods that do intentionally sexualise children as well I thankfully haven't seen them. My point has been that not everyone who creates & uses child/teen followers does so for sinister reasons, yet it seems that they are all lumped into that category regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElioraArin Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 I actually just went & found one of the child mods I looked at back then, the body is based on what must be a very petite adult one & can never be nude - she simply looks like an exquisitely beautiful older child, to me anyway. If I remember right I didn't use the mod because she wasn't given a childs voice, which was weird, & I then found the teens with custom voices & dialogue, who happily can also ride horses :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbit1251 Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 their is no issue, the only issue i see is your thinking that your values and morals about matters far beyond yours are hard to comprehend. That!! The Rabbit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty4life Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 There is no issue for the regular child/teen followers etc - seen many done perfectly well. But, there is a problem when you intentionally make a teen /child follower/npc and over-sexualise them - there is no plausible deniability there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackRoseOfThorns Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 Oh, please... Parents let their children run topless in the summer and no one thinks anything of it, but as soon a form of media portrays young character in semi skimpy sports wear it's the end of the world and morality. Things get blown out of proportion when it comes to games and TV. Everyone sits on front of their screens like a flock of vultures, waiting for opportunity to call something obscene and then they proceed to disregard context and just tweet, blog or post manipulated content in hope of getting more views. Bestselling topics nowadays are: sexism vs. feminists, video games causes aggression, fake child character gets killed or wears shorts.And what of women who are not of standard american size? There are demographics with petite bodies. Will you call a man who marries 40 year old that looks like 15 a pervert?It got ridiculous to the point where they started prohibiting pornstars with small breasts doing their job. They literary made it illegal, forcing adult women to go through implant surgery in order to stay in business.People who are the most verbal about being against everything that has to do with interpreting children in a way that is not a perfect replica of child in 1st world environment, have issues.1. It's not a real child. When a kid gets shot in a movie about war, it's for the story. People won't go and pay just to see some kid die, but won't mind if it's a part of plot development.2. People are not a mindless monkeys. They won't copy bad behavior after just seeing it, unless there is something wrong with their heads. When I was a kid I've read "Lord of Flies" in middle school, like the rest of the class and no one ended up being a psychopath.3. Some people are trying really hard to see something that normal person won't. Then they assume everyone are creeps, who would do something to a child in real life. Maybe it's time to stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idioticidiot Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 I still can't see the connection between "creating a child-like character" and "sexualizing children". (In case if you are wondering, yes, I do make child-like/ anime-ish followers.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novem99 Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 I still can't see the connection between "creating a child-like character" and "sexualizing children". Not that suprising for someone who obviously has no problems at all with child marriage or how would you explain this mod of yours: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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