Jnotay Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 The way the quest trigger is supposed to work: You go to Windhelm 3 times fast travel, walking in from outside of the Windhelm area (Remember that Windhelm Stables counts). To check your Windhelm Count hit ` and type "help ms11 3" no quotes. this will tell you how many times you visited Windhelm. When you're at 3 visits, you leave Windhelm and enter again from outside the Windhelm Limits (Kynesgrove works) you walk to Windhelm after 9:30pm (may be earlier but hit T to open the wait window and set hours to just make sure). As soon as you enter Windhelm city-limits the script that initializes this quest ends and starts Blood on the Ice events (even though it's not in your log yet). When you enter Windhelm through the front door everyone that's normally there will be gone (the two racist nords and the pickpocket lady). Walk over to the graveyard and you will find a group of people there and a guard who will officially start the quest for you. Just need to find a way to patch this ourselves and get it to trigger or start the quest normally without all these cleanup the house workarounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennan Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 According to the quest counter, I've entered Windhelm 75 times, and it hasn't started. Suzannah the Wicked is still alive and well in the inn, and not dead on a gravestone. I've had other quest scripts fail to fire as well...Mephala for one (she manifests after I murder the victim at her alter,) but that's where it stalls out, and Derkeethus never leaves the cave you are supposed to rescue him from, The main problem with these quests seems to be a failure for scripts to fire. I'm puzzled as to what might be causing this, as it happened in the vanilla game, unmodded. I'm wondering if the last patch might somehow cause some of these scripts not to fire? I dl'd it in the middle of my current (and first btw) game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsmanners Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 There is a curious object called MS11Kicker that control the event. The quest starts between 7pm and 7am, and a certain amount of time (followup) has to pass if you wrongfully accuse the court mage until you can continue. see: http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Blood_on_the_Ice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennan Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 I've made it a point to walk to windhelm and arrive at night. typing: help ms11 3 gives me a count of 75 for entering windhelm, so that's not the issue. I'm wondering if I can get it to fire manually? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToMuchForYa Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 This is one of the buggiest quest in Skyrim, Ive spent so many hours trying to trigger this quest I have tried seriously EVERYTHING! I mean EVERYTHING!! to try to trigger this quest. Nothing at all worked for me I have never seen the dead body at the graveyard, I even loaded a different save before I did the Dark Brother hood and that didn't even work.I have no clue what's up with this quest but Ive been wanting the Windhelm house for a very long time and Bethesda better fix it! Or I'm going to go ape sh*t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennan Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 I know there's a script to finish the quest stages so you can get the house, but I'd rather get the thing the hard way, and do the quest. Heck, I've delayed doing the DB quests just to try to get this one going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nosisab Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 (edited) at this point I thought this infamous quest was decently fixed, still I get no guard near the scene, the people is acting normal least those three around the corpse (Calixto himself, the city trainer/beggar and the priestess). on another playthru (pre 1.3 patch I believe) it worked till trying to kill the immortal Calixto. well, c'est la vie. Edited February 27, 2012 by nosisab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nosisab Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 (edited) Then I lost patience trying to trigger the quest normally and (console) completed both quests ms11 and ms11b, still could not buy the house and then setstage a7b33 10 and voila, got the key, the gold dully removed and stuff. Quickly got to the Palace of Kings and built everything, caring to buy first the cleanup, perfect. Got to the home and everything in order, the nailed wardrobe now gets me into the beautiful lab, they were so careful working the house that even nailed it again. Then the surprises started. I found Calixto's journal, Viola's fliers, the strange amulet and all... better yet, despite all guards congratulating my PC for killing the murderer, he was happily walking around... I talked to Viola, he hushed to my new house, got to the alchemist table and when inquired she pointed toward the poor court mage... so I went to Calixto's house and got a tour from the "supposed" dead assassin... spook... sold him the amulet and now... Well, at this point I saved the game and quit... Very curious how all that mess will develop. Edited February 28, 2012 by nosisab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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