cheeseninja333 Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 Other than nostalgic memories of previous games why is the BoS so popular among New Vegas players? They wish for everyone but themselves to live like tribals. Their fear of others with technology isn't exclusive to weapons on the scale of ARCHIMEDES or nuclear weapons but extends to pretty much anything powered by electricity. Instead of chasing down nutjobs like Elijah or Ulysses they'll gladly devote themselves to storming Farmer Joe's ranch to grab his old laser pistol at gunpoint, taking the pip-boy some caravan is using to navigate, and so on. Despite being nearly wiped out almost all of their endings involve them again throwing themselves at a power plant they almost died defending, doing nothing with it, then marching around the wasteland demanding anyone they come across hand over any technology they own or face death. Their xenophobia is incredibly severe- as well as believing anyone but them is too dumb to be trusted with anything more advanced than a stick (except the player) they also have a deeper hatred of ghouls and mutants, to the point that they often shoot them on sight. Bringing Lily into the bunker causes many members to offer to "put her down". Such an attitude to outsiders has effectively doomed them. Nobody that is not of some relation to an existing member can join without fulfilling some near-impossible task (saving the entire group isn't enough for the player to join, you also have to go fight an army of super mutants) and younger members are granted the choice to leave. The brotherhood will never expand due to their ferocious loyalty to the codex, effectively dooming them to inevitably run out of bodies to fill the metal suits they love so much. Not only is their codex dooming them to either die out or become a glorified raider gang and die out later, they're also too brainwashed to ever change it. McNamara is one of their most liberal members yet will shrug off the fact that the Helios battle was for next to nothing, become angry at the suggestion that helping outsiders might make their presence tolerated, happily send out patrols to shake down outsiders as soon as the battle is over, and accepts that dying out is inevitable because he'll at least have stayed true to the outdated and now impossible goals set by the codex. To top this off, a group of paladins will happily murder you and a fellow member for suggesting such a thing, and another group will happily later slaughter a group of doctors because they might know something they shouldn't. All of this under McNamara's leadership with the alternative, Hardin, being even worse- his first act as leader is to demand you go shoot up the Van Graffs, not for any moral reasons but to scare the hell out of anyone with tech and show that the BoS mean business. So... why are these guys seen as pretty much everyone's favorite faction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethreon Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 Everyone who? They were asshats since the first games. I despise them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladez Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 Probably because Bethesda inexplicably made them the "good guys" in Fallout 3. They're only slightly more tolerable than the utterly insufferable Boomers, which is a very, very low bar. Common raiders are are more rational than these people. At least they don't kid themselves into thinking they're the good guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cordelionreaver Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 The only people that I see liking them are people that got into Fallout form Fallout 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evonflux Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 The BoS from FO3 is a different brotherhood. Lyons defy the ideology of the Brotherhood from the West by helping the people of the Capital Wasteland, fighting the good fight and I like Lyons for that. That is the brotherhood I love not the brotherhood Maxon and the other elders has. Though I admit, I do have a hard time in New Vegas, currently siding with Mr. House, and I can't seem to hold the idea that I have to destroy them even though I know they were not Lyons' BoS. Maybe because of Veronica, or maybe because when I think of the Brotherhood of Steel, I think of the one from the Capital Wasteland, not the technology hoarding ass other Fallout franchise has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingwilfre16 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 The only people that I see liking them are people that got into Fallout form Fallout 3.I got in from 3 and I hate the nv and f4 ones, which is why I always kill them on sight. They have no place in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatterian Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 Lyons' BoS sucks, I always nuke them too. Bleeding hearts have no place in the post apocalypse, not even the Followers are that naive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charwo Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 I don't like the Brotherhood in New Vegas, I don't hate them either. You CAN get them to to do the right thing with the NCR and that's the only reason I don't kill every last one them. I liked the Brotherhood in 1, 2 and 3. In the first two they kept to themselves and in 3, trying to do the right thing goes a long way in my playboook. My Courier doesn't believe in killing the entire chapter because of some murderous hotheads, even if it will free Veronica. It would help if you didn't have to blow up the bunker or kill them all one by one: maybe if you could suck all the air out of the bunker and kill them them all quietly that way and loot all their power armor, then maybe I could get her to do it. Maybe. It's just a waste you can't disarm them them somehow, compel them to surrender to the NCR like the Vault 19 powder gangers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YanL Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 (edited) I dont :smile: There are only 3 NPC´s in this faction that I liked: Veronica, Elijah and Danse. That chick trapped in a power armor and Sara are ok too. In Fallout 2, sometimes I even ignore them completely. Edited October 11, 2016 by YanL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpmh2001 Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 the east coast brotherhood was cool until maxon showed up killed sarah and ruined everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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