Mass Effect 3 Will Require Origin on PC

[spets21]

I will get this on my 360 as well since i bought 1 and 2 on that same platform, I see no reason to buy this on the PC so it's all good on my end. Can't wait to see liara ME3 <3 i`ll just stay away from Origin tyvm

[brokenergy]

I just downloaded Origin and tested it with Process Monitor to see what it's all about.

Here are the results:

http://imageshack.us/f/151/originj.png/

 

It's only scanning it's own folder or it's registry folder when I logged in.

Process Monitor is still running, and I didn't see any suspicious activity from Origin.

 

That makes me less worried, but I will still keep an eye on this thing.

 

They'll might change the context for bricks and mortar games at some point like they did with DA2. Anyway I'm more concerned about the wavering of the right to sue, SOPA and monoploys in the digital market.

[Vagrant0]

Why are you crying foul with EA and not with Valve, Facebook, Google, MS and other software copperations?

Already looked at Steam. Only thing it gets information about are the games you have registered with Steam.

 

I don't use Facebook for exactly that reason and I'm not missing anything. If someone wants to contact me there are better places.

 

For Google, I routinely block scripts from Google Analytics, Googleapis unless they are required for a site, and do not use Google as a search engine. Although I have a Gmail account, I do not run anything through it other than junkmail, and sign out of Google any time I am not using the E-mail. Any information Google does get about me is largely related to just short term browsing history (since I clear cookies and history every time I start Firefox). At which point, given the broad range of things I might view during the day just from this site... About as consistent as someone with multiple personality disorder.

 

MS is blocked by my firewall (non-windows) as well as other software designed to block connections unless I am running Windows Update (about once a week/month). I don't use Outlook, MS office, or anything MS other than my operating system. The only information they are getting about me is what hardware I have and what MS products I have installed, which is rather important for the purpose of updating an OS.

 

Other software companies I usually block from phoning home as a standard practice unless I have checked what the nature of their connections are related to. In nearly all cases though, this information is only related to the program in question and what hardware is present.

 

 

 

For what possible reason would EA need to scan my personal documents, or what other unrelated software I might have installed for their service? Even if this has been toned down, it should have not been there in the first place. No other company, except for those dealing with spyware, has done anything close to this degree of privacy invasion. Not Steam, Not Microsoft, Not even Google and Facebook.Even cloud networks have some built in privacy measures to protect information, and don't add these clauses saying that they can do whatever they want with it. If you still don't see the problem, then I'm not sure you ever will.

[nosisab]

@brokenenergy

 

You are letting paranoia and misinformation to fill you. If you had any shread of decency left, you would have realised that you lost all your personal information when you came on to the Internet. Why are you crying foul with EA and not with Valve, Facebook, Google, MS and other software copperations? They collect information too, Facebook searches all your cookies, so they can (in theory) know about which bank you use or where you get your porn collection. Google collect info on your seaches and can use "it" for their own purposes, which could be anything. You were always watched by big business, I just wish that people realize that instead of going on a rant over Origins.

 

You are being too harsh and risking too much for such direct attack on another user (and more than a simple user actually). Besides, there is a difference, not that it makes these "tracking" benign, but they are not scanning your computer, they are only tracking your Internet activity (unless it is a trojan or backdoor). To me at least is that your "complacency" what I could call losing decency and dignity. For Allowing and finding it OK to have these things as "normal" and must be silently accepted.

 

Beyond this, you can always block and remove the cookies and tracking applications out of your system, at max you may lose access to certain pages, and it's just it. But you can't remove these scanning non blessed things like steam and origin, not without losing the right to play the game you paid for and be in the "legal side". Still there is a difference about the methodology which makes Origin a lot worse than Steam in this aspect of intrusion in your system as a whole. They are too close to be a real back door too, and if depending only on TC desires it is to become so.

 

In the end, you are always free to use and do whatever you want with your computer, but can't be mad on those who are not wanting to sell themselves to something they find too harmful to be accepted.

Edited January 15, 2012 by nosisab

[Shantih]

not getting Origin isnt hurting them any. all your doing is hurting yourself by not being able to partake in some really great games.

 

I don't think missing out on a game is such a big deal. Especially since more often than not games tend to get shorter and dumber all the time.

 

If enough people don't play games that rely on such schemes big companies will notice. If people just give in then we can only expect this to go even further...

 

If that's the future of gaming then I'm going to need a new hobby.

 

Same here.

[brokenergy]

*snip*

 

 

Steam does the same thing that Origin does, it's just more lawyer worded so you don't notice. Steam can also ban you for whatever reason and stop you from playing your bought products. Google, MS, Facebook, You Tube, Sony, your smartphone, all these products invade your privacy against your will day after day, so why now? Why EA? What does EA want with your bank accounts? What does EA want with what sites you visit? What does EA want with your gaming hobbies? Do you realise how stupid it sounds for a big company to start looking into people's personal files?

 

I ask you again, do you have any evidence that Origin is spyware and not a download service? There is evidence here which contradicts your statements, not once but twice! So do you have information that Origin is spyware? If you do, then go and tell your comsumer watchdog and civil libertarian groups rather than posting back at this thread. If you are so certain that Origin is spyware, then at least alert them instead of us. Anyway I'm done with you and this thread, so see ya!

[ziitch]

@brokenenergy

 

May I ask you something?

 

If you were some big corporation wanting to get the most money out of your products, would you rather have the majority of your customers a bunch of MIT graduates or are dumber than dirt?

 

Let me go ahead and give you the answer - People being dumber than dirt is a myth.

 

It's a growing trend for companies that are as big as EA to try and squeeze everything out of us through nickel-and-diming, and even violate our privacy, and furthermore we know that they are doing it. And we want it to stop - However the one system that can stop it, the government, is completely ignorant and quite out of date when it comes to current events and issues. But, we aren't going to turn a blind eye to them, and the best way to do this is informing their own customers of their schemes, and how to avoid and resist them. I know you're trying to question the credibility, but you really need to ask yourself this - Do you really want to live in a world where 100% of everything you do or have has to go through a corporation? I mean, would you really be happy if every game has to go through EA?

[hoofhearted4]

just read the EULA from Origin, and it does in fact say it can scan your computer for certain information to better EA. however, i bet you every EULA says this....but yea, its Section 1.C and Section 2.

 

still not worried. the only reason ppl make this a big deal is because Steam users were pissed that EA made Origin and are taking certain big games from Steam.

 

 

as BrokenEnergy has said. anything your worried about Origin getting from you, has already been taken by some other program if not multiple other programs.

[CommanderCrazy]

I couldnt care less. I've got nothing illegal on my computer. Edited January 16, 2012 by CommanderCrazy

[Vagrant0]

as BrokenEnergy has said. anything your worried about Origin getting from you, has already been taken by some other program if not multiple other programs.

Name one program other than spyware that scans personal documents on your hard drive and reports this information home. Name one that has provisions to share this information with any 3rd parties they decide.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spyware

Spyware is a type of malware (malicious software) installed on computers that collects information about users without their knowledge. The presence of spyware is typically hidden from the user and can be difficult to detect. Typically, spyware is secretly installed on the user's personal computer.

 

The software is being installed under the premise of just being a download service, but does more than that, so is lying from the start.

 

Even if it was removed, it was there in the first place and is a clear part of their EULA. Looking into it, it seems that they were even pressured by Germany to remove this aspect of their program because of German laws against this sort of invasive software. This does not however say that they won't just add this aspect back later, but region locked. EA isn't a company which has done much to gain the trust of gamers for well over the last decade.

 

Don't care about them pulling games from Steam, I wouldn't have bought their games anyway. Don't care what game they make, I won't be buying it, won't be playing it. Havn't bought a EA game since they made their Download client (which was a watered down form of Origins) mandatory.