Our mods are being "stolen" and uploaded elsewhere

[Vasabi90]

 

 

It seems like such a hard sentiment to grasp for some, I would agree that a deeper argument could be had over whether or not his mod contains any data he can actually possibly own, but regardless it's still disrespectful. And deceitful in my book.

 

Have a look at Zuckerberg. Got sued for what, $60 million? I bet the twins that successfully sued him didn't put up a permissions sign of any sort either.

Если речь пошла об уважении, то я могу Вам сказать, что очень многие авторы пишут в своих работах:"Пожалуйста отнеситесь с уважением к моему труду и спросите у меня разрешения на изменение и использование контента". То есть речь идёт не об авторском праве, а об отношениях между пользователями. Если я совершила ошибку и сделала что-то не так, то я, как нормальный человек извинюсь и постараюсь исправить эту ошибку. Но в ответ я ожидаю встречной нормальной реакции, а не требования некой суммы! Вот это и называется "уважение"!!!

 

Agreed. Kopasov should apologize. Greek should apologize. No more fire with fire. No more uploading others mod without "absolute" consent. No more morally ambigious requests for compensation.

 

Kopasov already apologized to this author, but he was not satisfied with that ending - he wanted money. If Greek shares Your and my point of view on this issue, then let unsubscribe here on their consent to this resolution of the misunderstanding!

[Sarinia]

 

What kind of piracy can be discussed if in each publication indicates the author of the original content and provides a link to the original. Moreover, always thanks to the Creator of a modification with reference to his account!?

 

 

Are you trying to protect the criminal, pretending to be a victim!

 

 

Indicating the identity of the legal owner/creator of a mod does not negate the legal requirement to have their permission PRIOR to hosting that mod. I will be more specific here. Another site does have the legal right to list a mod and the author, provided that they do not actually host the file for download or link directly to the files where they are hosted here on the Nexus. Hosting the file on their own site without the mod author's specific permission is against the law.

[Sarinia]

@Vasabi90 - Please keep in mind that Greekrage's request for compensation is a totally separate matter from copyright laws and it should not be used to justify copyright infringement. Trying to get him to revoke his statement about blocking use of his mods to 'fix' what you may perceive as bad behavior on his part is also not appropriate. It is his choice, as the owner of the copyright to decide who can and cannot reproduce or host his work.

[Vasabi90]

 

Please see the below, as we are talking about copyright, as long as the mod is made for one of the Bethesda/Zenimax games:

 

Below is the specific section from the Zenimax Terms of Service regarding the copyright they extend to mod authors. The color added is my own, but the text is copied directly from the Terms of Service Agreement, which can be viewed in its entirety here: http://https://www.z.../legal_terms_us

Zenimax's Terms of Service Agreement

Section 2 - Content

D. Game Mods

Content also includes Game Mods. The term “Game Mod” means downloadable, user-generated Content developed or created by You or a third party using an Editor Tool (as defined below). In certain cases, as determined by ZeniMax, Game Mods may be made available to other users of a Service or a Game and in such cases, such other users may download the Game Mods from ZeniMax or third parties and use such Game Mods in connection with playing a Game or receiving a Service from ZeniMax.

If You desire to develop or create one or more Game Mods, then You will be required to download from a ZeniMax website or otherwise gain access to via a ZeniMax website one or more software tools through which You may create or develop Game Mods (each such tool is an “Editor Tool”). To obtain a copy of or get access to any such Editor Tool, You will be required to agree to the terms of a separate EULA (the “Editor EULA”). If there is a conflict between the terms and conditions in any such Editor EULA and the terms and conditions in these Terms of Service, the terms in the Editor EULA will control over the conflicting terms in these Terms of Service but solely for purpose of the specific Editor Tool and not for

any other purpose. Please review the terms in the Editor EULA carefully.

With respect to Game Mods made available for download from a ZeniMax website or made available from a ZeniMax server, ZeniMax may, at any time and in its sole discretion, elect to remove such Game Mods from the ZeniMax website(s) or server(s) without notice to You.

Each Game Mod is owned by the developer of the Game Mod, subject to the licenses granted by the developer to ZeniMax as set forth in the Editor EULA.

ZeniMax may, but is not required under this Agreement to, validate, test, evaluate or pre-screen Game Mods.

ZeniMax does not endorse, sponsor, guaranty or approve any Game Mods, including without limitation Game Mods available for download from a ZeniMax website.

Your experience with any particular Game Mod may vary from other users’ experiences.

IF YOU ELECT TO INSTALL, DOWNLOAD OR USE ANY GAME MODS, YOU DO SO AT YOUR OWN RISK.

EXCEPT AS PROHIBITED BY APPLICABLE LAW AND SUBJECT TO THE STATUTORY OBLIGATIONS (AS DEFINED IN SECTION 1), ZeniMax reserves the right (but has no obligation except as required by law) to OFFER, make available, REVIEW, remove, block, edit, move or disable GAME MODs for any reason, with or without notice, and HAS no liability of any kind WITH RESPECT TO GAME MODs, including WITHOUT LIMITATION when ZeniMax determines that a GAME MOD violates THESE TERMS OF SERVICE, the EDITOR EULA. The decision to remove a GAME MOD at any time is in ZeniMax's sole and final discretion.

To the maximum extent permitted by law, ZeniMax does not assume any responsibility or liability for GAME MODs or for the removal of any GAME MODs

FOR any failure to or delay in removing, any GAME MOD.

Section 17 - Intellectual Property Infringement

ZeniMax respects the intellectual property rights of others, and requires that those who use its Services do the same. ZeniMax will terminate the Account of any user who is responsible for any or repeated acts of intellectual property infringement. You may not, and by using the Services You agree not to, use the Services to transmit material: (i) that is copyrighted, unless You are the copyright owner or have obtained the permission of the copyright owner to transmit it; (ii) that reveals trade secrets, unless You own them or have the permission of the owner to so transmit them; or (iii) that infringes on any Intellectual Property Rights, as defined below, of others or violates the privacy or rights of publicity of others. For purposes of these Terms of Service, the term "Intellectual Property Rights" means, collectively, rights under patent, trademark, copyright and trade secret laws, and any other intellectual property or proprietary rights recognized in any country or jurisdiction worldwide, including, without limitation, moral rights and similar rights.

(Below that Zenimax provides the address and documentation requirements to submit a DMCA notice).

 

Everything is absolutely correct and that's exactly what I wrote to You! Then just quote from part of the given text:

"Each Game Mod is owned by the developer of the Game Mod, subject to the licenses granted by the developer to ZeniMax as set forth in the EULA Editor."

Ie we are talking about some proof of copyright, which must be confirmed by the LICENSE ! This author has a license?

Think continue to argue just about anything, everything is clear!

[SMB92]

He doesn't need a license. He's covered by the common law. That is the point. the license extends Zenimax's automatic right to us users, in that we may upload and distribute modified content of our own without fear of infringing the laws ourselves, and that gives us the automatic rights as well. So much so that Zenimax themselves can only have limited access to the content created by users.

 

That's if I have all my ducks in a row anyway.

[Sarinia]

@Vasabi90 - please read Dark0ne's comments on the thread that SMB92 linked. His statements agree with mine regarding mod copyrights, but I believe he makes it much clearer.

[LavenaF]

I didn't know that on this site you can insult people, call them idiots. In this whole nexus, to cover the thieves who steal other people's meshes, to ban someone who said this and scream about copyright violations. All mods have links to the page of the author, no one appropriates the authorship, but Kopasov a thief. Are you serious?

[Dark0ne]

This is being handled in the private mod author forums. Having two conversations about the same topic is counter-intuitive so all discussions should be taken to the mod author forums.

 

Any actions that need to be taken in regards to what was spoken about here, e.g. inappropriate language and insults, will be done so after the current issue with mods being used without permission is resolved