Racial Tolerance or Just an Act?

[HeyYou]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Racism is not about people screaming 'discrimination'.

 

Racism is people denying their fellow human beings their dignity and then whining when their victims fight back.

Get your head out of the sand. Racism goes both ways. The Black Lives Matter folks are the finest example. They scream and cry when a minority is killed by the white police officer, but they say nothing about the thousands killed every year by their own 'kind'. They ignore facts, and make up their own.

 

You're full of it.

 

Black Lives Matter organizes protests against institutionalized violence from police officers on minorities. They don't need to protest domestic violence because it is not institutionalized. You protest against institutions, not against individuals.

 

Did you know that whites mostly kill whites? :ohmy: Who knew! Well it's because you are most likely to be murdered by someone you know, generally who are in your own ethnicity.

 

So where are all the #Alllivesmatter people protesting white on white violence???

 

I am not talking about domestic violence. Not at all. I am talking about Black on Black violence. You know, blacks killing each other simply because they are wearing the wrong color, or are in the wrong neighborhood, or in revenge for some perceived wrong. BLM takes up the cause of ANY person of color killed by the police, regardless of circumstances. That makes claims that are not bore out by facts. They INCITE violence.

 

A cop shoots a white man. Nothing is in the news about it. No one riots. No one demands "justice".

 

A cop shoots a black man, no matter what the black man was doing at the time, there are protests, riots, and folks burning down and looting THEIR OWN neighborhoods. Where is the sense in that?

 

Cops actually shoot more white folks (2 to 1 ratio....) than black. Blacks committed 52% of murders from 1980, to 2008, yet they represent only 13% of the population. Now, does it come as any surprise that they represent a significant percentage of those killed by cops?

 

"Death by cop" accounts for about 1% of blacks killed by someone else. (regardless of circumstances) 97% of them are killed by other blacks. (not cops.) the remaining 2% fall into the "Other" category.

 

If BLM states (as their name implies) Black Lives Matter, then why are they NOT talking to the folks that account for the VAST MAJORITY of deaths? Other Blacks.

 

This is just another brand of racism perpetrated by non-whites.

 

What about WHITE on WHITE violence? They kill each other for any reason, because they are wearing the wrong color, or are in the wrong neighborhood, or in revenge for some perceived wrong. Seriously, white people kill more white people than black people kill black people. Look it up :laugh:

 

If no one riots for a white man being shot by cops then that is the white communities problem. Sucks that they aren't standing up for themselves. So since this is something you care SO much about, what are you doing to fix it? Why are you not taking to the streets to stop the MAN from killing... the MAN!

 

What are you doing about all the whites killed by whites, the most dangerous people to other whites? :teehee: Oh wait, you are so worried about what African American people are doing and calling them racist even though they lack the institutions necessary to do so. White on white violence needs to stop!!! :wacko: Poor white people being oppressed.

 

I don't see "White Lives Matter" whining about cops killing whites either.

 

Whites represent just over half of murder victims. Blacks represent just over half of murderers. What does THAT tell you?

 

It tells me that you need to go back to school and learn arithmetic. In 2013, 2,509 white people killed other white people. 458 white people killed non-whites. 2,245 black people killed other blacks. 57 black people killed those of other race. We can sit here and argue about proportions but clearly white people have a problem with killing people in general. Black on black crime is a problem, no one can deny but it is disproportionately represented while white on white crime is even worse.

 

Ok, lets see here.

 

Whites make up 64% of the population. Blacks make up about 13%. We get a total of approximately 3000 white murderers. We get approximately 2300 black murderers. Hmmmmm, It appears that blacks are disproportionately represented among murderers when looking at the population as a whole.

 

Now, who is bad at math?

 

You are still, I'm sorry but the numbers show a white person is more likely to be murdered by a white. :confused: So in a gun happy state like Michigan, you better watch your back. Maybe you can blame it on Obama like you do with healthcare... I mean, roughly 20 million more insured but you're still complaining it's a bad thing.

 

 

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You're asking the wrong person. Ask the OP of this thread who argues that Hispanics shouldn't speak Spanish in places such as the American South West. I mean, you do realize much of this region has only been under U.S. control for roughly 170 years. This region has literally been part of Spain and Mexico longer than it's been American. It's pretty respectless to come here and demand they adapt to speak English instead. Also, if the job you're applying for lists Spanish as obligatory then it's obligatory. It's not discrimination, it's common sense. :laugh:

 

By that logic we should be learning Iroquois, Sioux, Cheyenne, Cherokee and Navajo 'et al' since they were in charge for several hundred years prior to our arrival on the scene. The common sense part is that being Multi-Lingual is an advantage in general. I cannot fathom the reasoning that lead to the conclusion but the conclusion does make sense, it's simply good manners to speak the indigenous language in an area if possible. However there is a difference between voluntary courtesy and something being mandatory, there I part company with you. English has been the de facto language of the US since it's inception, we have required speakers of all other ethnic language groups to learn it as part of the assimilation process not the other way around.

 

Oops, too late, white people already murdered most of the cultures you mentioned... :sad: Nice red herring but I only stated that someone shouldn't cry reverse racism to the Spanish language being a job requirement in many areas which were historically Spanish. :thumbsup:

 

 

And a black person is FAR more likely to be murdered by another black. What's your point? By your own numbers, 41% of murderers are black, yet they are only 13% of the population.

 

I think you need to revisit your math education. It appears to have been somewhat..... lacking.......

[Aurielius]

The irony of white privileged people whining about the negative impacts from other races on a forum dedicated to specialized escapism is beautifully dystopian.

I'm not sure exactly whom this barb is attempting to sting but since our exchange was the most recent I'll assume that it was an addendum to your post responding to me. I spent 30 yrs serving in one of the few surviving meritocracies in the US..the military. I have served under and commanded people of every ethnic origin, the only thing that mattered was that you could do the job (though English was a prerequisite in the cockpit, which it still is world wide). So if you are looking for white guilt, I'm afraid I cannot oblige, but be my guest if you feel that some form of personal atonement is necessary to maintain your righteous sense of emotional well being.

[Fatalmasterpiece]

 

 

 

 

What about WHITE on WHITE violence? They kill each other for any reason, because they are wearing the wrong color, or are in the wrong neighborhood, or in revenge for some perceived wrong. Seriously, white people kill more white people than black people kill black people. Look it up :laugh:

 

Wrong. I believe you're thinking of your people. Whites don't have the "hood" and "gang" mentality you often find in the black community.

 

 

If no one riots for a white man being shot by cops then that is the white communities problem. Sucks that they aren't standing up for themselves. So since this is something you care SO much about, what are you doing to fix it? Why are you not taking to the streets to stop the MAN from killing... the MAN!

 

More often than not, the police officer will use appropriate force depending on the situation. If a police officer shoots a white man, he probably had good reason to. If a police officer shoot a black man, he probably had good reason to. The reason police officers may seem to shoot more black people than they do white people is because you tend to commit more crime. Sorry if this makes you upset.

 

What are you doing about all the whites killed by whites, the most dangerous people to other whites? :teehee: Oh wait, you are so worried about what African American people are doing and calling them racist even though they lack the institutions necessary to do so. White on white violence needs to stop!!! :wacko: Poor white people being oppressed.

And when the leftist has no arguments left, he goes full retard. Good job.

 

What do you mean "your people"? You mean humans? To quote you two pages ago "You don't even know any of us. You don't know who we are, where we live and what any of us has experienced, and yet you have the nerve to judge us because we don't agree with you?" My family is predominantly English, Polish and German but good job showing your hand at how you're supposedly not racist. :teehee:

 

If you don't believe me regarding crime, look it up. White people kill more white people than any other race. Even more so than blacks kill blacks. Clearly there is a problem with white on white violence! :laugh:

 

 

You're posting pictures making fun of white people and their problems and don't seem to think white people can be oppressed. You trivialize the problems and seem to think white people have no right to talk about certain issues simply because they're "privileged". I made a judgement based on your posts since it's quite clear you are not the biggest fan of white people overall, which then lead me to believe that you are a black person, hence the "your people". Correct me if I'm wrong though.

 

Yes, I fully understood your train of thought. That is what makes it so humorous. It may be easy to assume that if someone calls you out for playing the victim as a poor oppressed white person, then they must be black. Not true here, I'm white and born with any privilege that skin color affords. The difference between you and me is that I have spent most of my life around other races, I get along well with them and am not afraid to walk down the streets of Detroit where I grew up. I don't cry about the unfairness of people of color demanding respect or asking me to be politically correct. I acknowledge the damage that white imperialism has done on the Western world. I'm also not a boot licker. you might want to work on that. :thumbsup:

[Fatalmasterpiece]

 

The irony of white privileged people whining about the negative impacts from other races on a forum dedicated to specialized escapism is beautifully dystopian.

I'm not sure exactly whom this barb is attempting to sting but since our exchange was the most recent I'll assume that it was an addendum to your post responding to me. I spent 30 yrs serving in one of the few surviving meritocracies in the US..the military. I have served under and commanded people of every ethnic origin, the only thing that mattered was that you could do the job (though English was a prerequisite in the cockpit, which it still is world wide). So if you are looking for white guilt, I'm afraid I cannot oblige, but be my guest if you feel that some form of personal atonement is necessary to maintain your righteous sense of emotional well being.

 

Meritocracy? Is that how you describe the taste of leather shoe polish? I'm sorry but I can't hold the military in glorious reverence when at least 25% of women in the military have been sexually assaulted and 80% harassed. It's even worse for men but often goes unreported. Racism is also prevalent in the military. Possibly more in the Marine Corps than in the Air-force which it sounds like you were part of. So how much has changed since the Tuskegee Airmen? Just a few years ago in the Army’s main combat units, 25 brigades, not a single Black colonel. Is Racial Thursdays still a thing? Up until a couple years ago black women couldn't wear their hair in braids or twists. White supremacists such as Forrest Fogarty have talked about how it is still easy for people who share his ideology to join the military for "free training". So, I'm not completely sold on this "meritocracy".

[Aurielius]

@Fatal Mental Case

You are one seriously damaged individual with some evidently not so repressed hostility issues.

We have these things in the Navy called Carriers, I was a Naval Aviator...the pointy end of the American Foreign Policy.

The Tuskegee Airman? You had to go back to 1942 to dredge that one up, which by the way is when the Democratic south was completely segregated which would make the formation of their unit ground breaking. This is simply grasping for straws when you need to go back 75 years to make a case that fits your narrative...but I suspect you would find fault with Hannibal Barca's army as being racially discriminatory against Numidians.

I don't condone assaults or carry water for those that do. Next..hair styles? It might come as a shock to you but training for war is the objective not preferred coiffures. Could you find a more petty compliant than hair do's? I guess not.

You are faux worried about aggregate minority command numbers in a voluntary service which is open to anyone. I look to the cream: Gen Lloyd J Austin-Vice Chief of Staff, CIC Central Command ,Gen. Colin Powell-Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff , Gen Benjamin O. Davis- First black general officer in the regular army 1940, Ensign Jesse Brown-posthumous DFC or Lt. Vraciu during the Battle of the Philippine Sea (Great Marianas Turkey Shoot).

It's not the color or sex of the person, it's the quality of the individual that matters when your life is in their hands, that bond of trust transcends all differences because if it doesn't then people die. The ironic thing about your disdain for those that protect you, is that it's only possible because we are willing to make the sacrifices for the country that you won't.

[Skagens]

 

 

 

 

 

What about WHITE on WHITE violence? They kill each other for any reason, because they are wearing the wrong color, or are in the wrong neighborhood, or in revenge for some perceived wrong. Seriously, white people kill more white people than black people kill black people. Look it up :laugh:

 

Wrong. I believe you're thinking of your people. Whites don't have the "hood" and "gang" mentality you often find in the black community.

 

 

If no one riots for a white man being shot by cops then that is the white communities problem. Sucks that they aren't standing up for themselves. So since this is something you care SO much about, what are you doing to fix it? Why are you not taking to the streets to stop the MAN from killing... the MAN!

 

More often than not, the police officer will use appropriate force depending on the situation. If a police officer shoots a white man, he probably had good reason to. If a police officer shoot a black man, he probably had good reason to. The reason police officers may seem to shoot more black people than they do white people is because you tend to commit more crime. Sorry if this makes you upset.

 

What are you doing about all the whites killed by whites, the most dangerous people to other whites? :teehee: Oh wait, you are so worried about what African American people are doing and calling them racist even though they lack the institutions necessary to do so. White on white violence needs to stop!!! :wacko: Poor white people being oppressed.

And when the leftist has no arguments left, he goes full retard. Good job.

 

What do you mean "your people"? You mean humans? To quote you two pages ago "You don't even know any of us. You don't know who we are, where we live and what any of us has experienced, and yet you have the nerve to judge us because we don't agree with you?" My family is predominantly English, Polish and German but good job showing your hand at how you're supposedly not racist. :teehee:

 

If you don't believe me regarding crime, look it up. White people kill more white people than any other race. Even more so than blacks kill blacks. Clearly there is a problem with white on white violence! :laugh:

 

 

You're posting pictures making fun of white people and their problems and don't seem to think white people can be oppressed. You trivialize the problems and seem to think white people have no right to talk about certain issues simply because they're "privileged". I made a judgement based on your posts since it's quite clear you are not the biggest fan of white people overall, which then lead me to believe that you are a black person, hence the "your people". Correct me if I'm wrong though.

 

Yes, I fully understood your train of thought. That is what makes it so humorous. It may be easy to assume that if someone calls you out for playing the victim as a poor oppressed white person, then they must be black. Not true here, I'm white and born with any privilege that skin color affords. The difference between you and me is that I have spent most of my life around other races, I get along well with them and am not afraid to walk down the streets of Detroit where I grew up. I don't cry about the unfairness of people of color demanding respect or asking me to be politically correct. I acknowledge the damage that white imperialism has done on the Western world. I'm also not a boot licker. you might want to work on that. :thumbsup:

 

 

You think you're only one who spent his life among other races? My country has had the "take in as many as we can in the shortest time possible" kind of policy when it comes to immigration. I have lived among all kinds of people. And what I've found is that many of they are very uncivilized. The term "No go zone" didn't exist before mass immigration became a thing. The term "gang rape" didn't exist either. So while you may have had a positive experience when it comes to multiculturalism, assuming you've actually experienced it, I on the other hand have experienced the negative aspect of it. Multiculturalism should be about exchanging and sharing culture in moderation, not about a race replacing another.

You speak about white imperialism like it's a bad thing. We have built great wonders and discovered distant land. We have fought, sacrificed and conquered in order to be where we are now. We built this world, boy.

Edited May 13, 2017 by Skagens

[TheMastersSon]

http://www.psychologicalscience.org/news/were-only-human/is-racism-just-a-form-of-stupidity.html

 

"The short answer is yes—there is a clear, predictable and causal link between low intelligence and prejudice, including racism."

Edited May 13, 2017 by TheMastersSon

[HeyYou]

http://www.psychologicalscience.org/news/were-only-human/is-racism-just-a-form-of-stupidity.html

 

"The short answer is yes—there is a clear, predictable and causal link between low intelligence and prejudice, including racism."

That does not necessarily imply that all racists are 'low intelligence' though.....

[TheMastersSon]

Yes it does. :D

[HeyYou]

Yes it does. :D

I knew that response was coming...... :D