rabidNode Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 (edited) my main issue with the workshop is I cant bloody download mods I can only subscribe to them. so it makes it more difficult to recombine and rename the mods I use to fit the organizational method I use.they really should have a subscribe button and a download button.i will not see some mods now that are exclusive there because I am not going to allow ti to download directly wherever it wants without me knowing what it is downloading. anyone know a method to get the download out of the subscribe buttons? Edited February 12, 2012 by rabidNode Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capomafioso Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 Not wanting to upset you by playing Devil's Advocate here, but...why have you taken pictures of your char nude for a hair mod? :confused: I've set your file to "adult only" because it has nude pics in it. If you remove the nude pics, feel free to take the adult only filter off! ahahahahaha i like this guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamocelot Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 Speaking of SKY UI I was reading the posts on STEAM last night .. WOW I was aggravated as If I was the Mod author I could not believe the complaints .noted I had to put in my comments to the post just to relieve stress then left in disgust .My fears were becoming my reality . I guess no one can handle simple file manipulation to install SKSE .. whats wrong over there ? That's why I'm sticking with nexus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modder3434 Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 (edited) "Difference between the steam workshop and the Nexus?" Nexus has.... - better search function- better selection- better community support- Forums enough said Edited February 13, 2012 by modder3434 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrakeTheDragon Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 (edited) anyone know a method to get the download out of the subscribe buttons?Last I heard was you simply subscribe once, let Steam download it prior to next game run, then copy the files away to some safe place (hey, it's only ESP and BSA with the mod's name anyways, so nothing much to search for), and last but not least unsubscribe it again. It will remove the files, but you stored copies away before, so just put them back in and start the game via the usual means. Oh, but to play safe I think you should also unpack this horrible BSA thing first by all means.Last time I checked there's no priority control among BSAs, and having 2 or more BSAs containing the same files (as in replacer mods) will make the game decide randomly which file to use each time it's started, which is pretty much just... troubling to say the least. :ermm: edit: And there was a misconception a page back. The ESP "is" the plugin, nothing else. Nobody can turn a mod (a.k.a. plugin(s) + maybe resource files) into an ESP, unless it already was "plugin-only" to begin with. What the workshop does now is exactly what we do for a Nexus upload, "packaging" it, but only the resource files and only into Bethesda's own file format BSA (Bethesda Softworks Archive, if I'm not mistaken) instead of as we do it all together into a zip or 7z or rar or whatever archive format you know. And as for the 50 mods subscribed max. mentioned a couple times, if you read Steam forums, their staff already mentioned this was a "mistake" and is going to be fixed, shortly after they introduced the search function everybody was crying for. Sticking to the 1 ESP + 1 BSA approach they have going over there this will of course only lead to even more trouble and conflicts, raising the max. number of mods in use (hey, do people even know what the max. number of plugins active at a time is for Skyrim already? And even more so, does the Workshop warn them once they're reaching this limit, unknowingly? Merging plugins of "subscribed" mods yourself to not reach this limit is already out of question, as the Workshop will happily revert all changes you do to subscribed files back to downloaded state once you start up the game again (another design flaw I guess). Oh, and I really hate to be defending Steam here, or this horrible implementation they call the Workshop, but I like sticking to the facts, and these deserved mentioning. Edited February 14, 2012 by DrakeTheDragon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaranTatsuuchi Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 ...Oh, but to play safe I think you should also unpack this horrible BSA thing first by all means.Last time I checked there's no priority control among BSAs, and having 2 or more BSAs containing the same files (as in replacer mods) will make the game decide randomly which file to use each time it's started, which is pretty much just... troubling to say the least. :ermm:...Actually it's not random, It has been determined that archived bsa's take lowest priority, followed by loose files, and then plugin bsa's in alphanumeric sorting order. http://forums.bethsoft.com/topic/1345724-important-bsas-and-you/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopher Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 To be honest, I have felt that the Steam community had very high expectations from the Workshop and even higher expectations that the mod authors would be able to package their mods in a Steam workshop friendly manner perfectly. When this turned out to be not the case, they seem to have become extremely hostile to the mod authors accusing them a variety of things including being stupid, lazy and even deliberately trying to make Steam Workshop fail and recruit more Nexusites. It is a little strange to find an environment so strangely hostile to the contributors and so oddly paranoid about a site they should really be looking to for inspiration rather than confontation. I am just very curious as to the outcry that will occur when they realise some mods will require load order manipulation and that will require a new tool. My guess is they will demand mod authors stop making mods that are load order sensitive. Makes me appreciate Nexus all the more. *BIG HUG TIME* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathByCactus Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 To be honest, I have felt that the Steam community had very high expectations from the Workshop and even higher expectations that the mod authors would be able to package their mods in a Steam workshop friendly manner perfectly. When this turned out to be not the case, they seem to have become extremely hostile to the mod authors accusing them a variety of things including being stupid, lazy and even deliberately trying to make Steam Workshop fail and recruit more Nexusites. It is a little strange to find an environment so strangely hostile to the contributors and so oddly paranoid about a site they should really be looking to for inspiration rather than confontation. I am just very curious as to the outcry that will occur when they realise some mods will require load order manipulation and that will require a new tool. My guess is they will demand mod authors stop making mods that are load order sensitive. Makes me appreciate Nexus all the more. *BIG HUG TIME* This, I have been shocked regarding many of the comments I have read on that website. Few of them make much sense and many of them are angry and not constructive. More to the point, I find their system of locating mods less intuitive than Nexus and their community to be overall filth. Which is a shame, because I am a huge steam advocate. All of my games are on Steam (unfortunately a few are on Origin, but only exclusives like BF3) as I have no cd drives and everything I do is streamed. Therefore Steam is very convenient, however, I feel the Steam workshop does a better job of offending me by attacking modders who have done exceptional work. So I have little interest in using Steamworks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark0ne Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 I know a few mod authors who were foaming at the mouth for a new place to upload their mods away from our "draconian moderation" who have since come crawling back after they dipped their toe in the unmoderated waters of the Steam Workshop, where all the great-unwashed roam. The sheer amount of self-entitlement I've witnessed from a growing minority of Steam Workshop commenters is worrying. See folks, I told you it could be worse...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbit1251 Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 I know a few mod authors who were foaming at the mouth for a new place to upload their mods away from our "draconian moderation" who have since come crawling back after they dipped their toe in the unmoderated waters of the Steam Workshop, where all the great-unwashed roam. The sheer amount of self-entitlement I've witnessed from a growing minority of Steam Workshop commenters is worrying. See folks, I told you it could be worse...! I had been wondering how long that would take. I tried the Steam Workshop once when it had just opened. While on a tour there I saw a "Bag of Holding" that I wanted. I subscribed and that was it. No download, no physical copy for my archives, nothing. I came back to the Nexus and found the same mod uploaded here so I took it. It took me several days to get rid of the Steam version being unable to find the Workshop on the Steam site and them trying to find the mod that I wanted to unsubscribe from. I haven't been back since. They can keep it as far as I'm concerned. It's the Nexus for me all the way. They've been very supportive of me for many years without a battery of ads every time I turn a page unlike Steam. I'll spare myself the frustration. The Rabbit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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