thecesardude Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Just give the option to choose between the two Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruhadre Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 In response to post #56010081. Reveal hidden contents Quote twowolves80 wrote: On 12/15/2017 at 2:54 PM, Ruhadre said: In response to post #55996416. #56001046 is also a reply to the same post. Reveal hidden contents Quote CrossShot4 wrote: Why not have both? Just give the option under "Preferences" Quote sopmac45 wrote: This has been addressed by Dark0ne already and backed up by several members in this thread. Read and find out. To make it short for you :- We are not going back to the old site. Period.- We will not have the option to have two sites. Period.Why do you continue asking something that has been already addressed and it is a done deal ? Because you have the right to ask ? Yes, you do ... but asking again for something that cannot be done is a waste of time on your end. I mean, it's Dark0ne's site, and if he wants to shoot his own site in the foot, then that's his business. Been using this site without complaint for years until this entire "new design" came up. I'm doing my best to be polite by even referring to it as a "new design". It's completely unusable by most.I agree with CrossShot4. Have both, or else you'll alienate a lot of users and modders. Being rude and pushy to people isn't helping your cause either. Don't act like Comcast when you hardly have a monopoly ;PThe site is ALREADY set up for both currently. It's fine the way it is now! Leaving you all free to do whatever you want with the new version side, while people can continue to enjoy the nexus experience they've enjoyed for years. Clearly, your intentions aren't geared toward the community, but more toward some weird form of pride in this new layout.Don't get me wrong, I love the Nexus. I go out of my way to make mods to help others, and I do my best to help others with problems, and I never asked once for a donation from others. But to force me to use a layout I hate, when they could give me the option to keep using the old site is just a slap in the face. Why should I go out of my way to make mods to make others happy when I'm just going to host them on a website that no longer shares my same interest in the community? Defeats the purpose. Also, I didn't see Dark0ne say anything specific in the original post about the destruction of the old site. He is allowed to change his mind. So I guess I should ask, are you speaking for him? Dark0ne has already said, in this thread, that to maintain two distinct websites would cost twice as much, cause the mod authors to have to do twice the work in setting up their mod pages (because each site is different in terms of functionality, I imagine, much the same way it is between Fallout 4 and Skyrim), and would take twice as long. Therefore, it ain't gonna happen.I don't have to speak for Dark0ne. He is more than capable of speaking for himself. In fact, here he is now! From about 40 or so pages back! On 11/28/2017 at 10:11 PM, Dark0ne said: In response to post #55588629. Reveal hidden contents Quote yourenotsupposedtobeinhere wrote: I did mention in the private section that there is a way of having a site work on mobile phones without it looking like it was made specifically for mobile phones, which was my only issue. It still looks like it was made specifically for mobile phones and I haven't received a reply from you or any of your team in that regard. I can't assume that that you will act on my recommendation without any information replying to what I and a number of other mod authors posted. To clarify. I'm not opposed to change, but as a person who doesn't use cell phones and that avoids sites that are made primarily for cell phone users, knowing there is an effort to make it less obvious that it is cell phone centric would do a great deal to raise the moral and perhaps keep some of the modders who are leaving. I've kept an eye on these threads, your only mention was something about being listed as an a class by some internet website rating service. Internet website rating services are great I'm sure, but I would think that the opinion of the people that made your site a success would have more weight. I'm not suggesting that you and your people didn't go through a great deal of time and effort, but I am not interested in using a cell phone mod site for PC games. A number of people suggested keeping the PC version as an option, what is your reply? I have a premium account, it would be pretty nice if I was permitted to keep the site I offered $50.00 for. Why not allow supporters to keep the legacy version if they want, they have supported you and your site for years. Quote They ignored those that did, as well, so not surprised many haven't botheredSigh, how shameful, that's a straight up lie. We've already changed several things since the initial launch news post was made, based on user feedback. Quote And YNSTBIH, as a mod author, do you prefer helpful feedback? Or do you prefer ranting? Which is more productive to you as a mod author, and more productive for your mods' fans? A nice, encouraging comment with helpful suggestions? Or someone just ranting, doing their best to drag you down to their level of misery?Just food for thought. :smile: They're the same. I get both and other variants and I don't place value one over the other. One person who went out of their way to try to hurt my feelings made a 20 minute video attacking my mod. I used that as a tool to make my mod better. There have also been some super nice mod authors like Tamira who was very kind and helpful to me. I appreciate both perspectives. When the person tried to profit off of making fun of my mod I put an end to it though. It's one thing to have strong opinions and another to try and profit from being butthurt. Quote I've kept an eye on these threads, your only mention was something about being listed as an a class by some internet website rating service.I think you're getting confused. The reference to an external rating was for the font readability. Nothing more.The site is made with desktop and mobile in mind, not one or the other. That's the responsive nature of the site, where when you reduce the browser width it changes accordingly. When viewing at a width of 1200px or more, it's made for desktop and only desktop. When viewing below 1200px it's made to work better for tablets and mobile. That's modern web dev, and it's the cheapest and most efficient method moving forward for small development teams to be able to accommodate as many users on their various mediums and browsers as possible.We'll certainly be reviewing how the site looks and functions based on the constructive feedback provided over the coming weeks and months, which is what we've been saying we'll do through this entire process. Frankly, the people saying we aren't listening or won't listen to feedback, and won't make changes where valid concerns are raised can really bite me. Some of the responses here and in other threads have been truly pathetic and I won't pander to the silliness being shown. If that makes it look like I'm "not listening" then I'll get over it and let the actions we take over the next few months do the speaking. Why waste my time? Quote A number of people suggested keeping the PC version as an option, what is your reply?This was already answered in one of the news posts, so once again, this isn't a "they're not listening/they're ignoring us" issue. That's actually a "people aren't reading the news posts" issue!It's not possible for two reasons. One, it would require double development time on our end when we change any functionality or add new functionality in the future, which just isn't feasible to do. And two, it would require mod authors to maintain two separate versions of their mod pages that work for the different site designs. Obviously that's not feasible either. [emphasis added] Sounds pretty clear and concise to me.And here's the Robin to Dark0ne's Batman: SirSalami, on 13 Dec 2017 - 12:43 PM, said: On 12/13/2017 at 6:43 PM, SirSalami said: We appreciate the strong feelings that many seem to be have here, but please try to refrain from argument. Apologies if we don't answer each post but I assure you the team is reading through these comments and taking note of what can be done. All of us are aware of the implications that come along with a website redesign, so you're not hurting our feelings by expressing your opinions about the new sites aesthetics, but we also do not need to be defended to the point of anger or misunderstanding. Please keep your posts civil, and most importantly, constructive. Our intention for this redesign is certainly (and I think obviously), not to intentionally drive anyone away. While we felt that the site was long overdue for a visual overhaul, the most important work that's happened during this effort has been to ensure that our infrastructure can scale and provide consistent service now and in the future. That sort of restructuring would require significant effort to either recreate the old design to coincide with these new systems, or that same effort could be spent creating a new design, which we felt was more prudent. Yes there have been many bumps in the road so-far. What's important to us now is ensuring that all site functionality that existed on the old site, works as intended on the new. Please continue to report bugs using the tab found at the bottom right of the site and the team will continue to fix them. Hundreds have been addressed already, so thank you to those that have submitted! After we feel confident that the new infrastructure is solid, we will revisit all that we can regarding user-experience, to hopefully address many of the concerns that are being raised in this thread.I hope this alleviates at least some concern and allows you all to continue to give us your opinions in a reasonable fashion. Thank you for your support!Where is the common sense in mobile compatibility?! I wasn't aware that Skyrim was available for cell phones, and that you could install mods for it too! Sounds awesome! ;P I'll get a GTX 1070 installed on my Lumia 950 right away!The people who download and install mods on the nexus are primarily PC users. I wasn't aware that you had nexus mod manager available for android, ios, or windows 10 mobile. You can't use a cell phone to take screen shots in-game very well...so screen archers also use PCs! The ONLY time that I can think of for ever needing to use the nexus on my phone is if I wanted to leave a post about something, or reply to a message. It would have been smarter to make nexus messenger into a phone app, not the entire site.The entire premise of desktop and mobile compatibility is not a logical one when it comes to practical usage of the site to begin with. So pardon me, if I still feel like I'm not getting a decent answer here out of all those walls of semi-polite excuses. Resources are being wasted on making the community mad, when it could be applied elsewhere in ways that make much more sense! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeir Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 On 12/15/2017 at 9:59 PM, Ruhadre said: Where is the common sense in mobile compatibility?! I wasn't aware that Skyrim was available for cell phones, and that you could install mods for it too! Sounds awesome! ;P I'll get a GTX 1070 installed on my Lumia 950 right away!The people who download and install mods on the nexus are primarily PC users. I wasn't aware that you had nexus mod manager available for android, ios, or windows 10 mobile. You can't use a cell phone to take screen shots in-game very well...so screen archers also use PCs! The ONLY time that I can think of for ever needing to use the nexus on my phone is if I wanted to leave a post about something, or reply to a message. It would have been smarter to make nexus messenger into a phone app, not the entire site. The entire premise of desktop and mobile compatibility is not a logical one when it comes to practical usage of the site to begin with. So pardon me, if I still feel like I'm not getting a decent answer here out of all those walls of semi-polite excuses. Resources are being wasted on making the community mad, when it could be applied elsewhere in ways that make much more sense!Dark0ne said earlier in the thread about this (note: this is not accusatory about you not knowing of every single post, just informative...although, from my memory rather than stuff I can quote, so maybe not 100% accurate). Currently mobile traffic counts for 18% of all traffic to the Nexus sites. Given how the vast majority of people seem to have trouble moving their eyes away from mobile screens nowadays, it is somewhat smart to try to make it easier for mobile users to browse the site. Many sites provide apps (e.g. Imgur), some have separate pages for if you're browsing on desktop or mobile, with different formats suitable for what's used (e.g. Wikipedia), while some try to make an all-in-one for both mobile and desktop (e.g. Youtube). Most of the time, such as with the 'new Nexus', these 'all-in-one sites' just mean making everything a lot bigger and more spaced out to make it easier for fingers to poke links on small screens, with a strong focus on images and videos. As someone who only browses on desktop, the first two options are what I consider to be the best way to support the various platforms, as it makes things a lot more suitable for the users needs according to what they're currently using, without impacting others. Why the Nexus team went with the third option is probably because they want to make the site and Vortex much more integrated. As it's being coded by the author of MO, I'd assume it would be a cross betwen NMM and MO, with some added bells and whistles. For one, the idea is that you can browse on your phone, 'save' the mods you're interested in somehow, and then download them later once you get to a desktop/laptop. I guess it would be 'easier' than just using the tracking centre (maybe auto-downloads? Click a button, all 'saved' mods get downloaded?). At least, that's how I understood it. I suppose it would be more difficult to do this with an app/'m.' site, and would mean having to code a website for desktop, a website for touchscreen (app/m.) as well as Vortex itself. I state all of this as someone who does not like the new site design (and has no interest in Vortex), but rather than scrapping it, would prefer a merger between the two, allowing the Nexus team to reach what they set out to do with the site, while providing the same functionality and efficiency as the old site. Largely this would just involve providing options to shrink things down, and/or removing unnecessary elements (and giving real 'list' views!). Old post. I could probably go further than what I put in my old post into what changes I'd like to see being made, but that would just make this post way too big. =P ~Different topic: Will we be getting 'Manage mods I have access to' back in the Mods dropdown, or is it going to be kept as the 'Mods -> Manage my mods -> Files (Others)' long way around? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethreon Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 18% with a very difficult to use mobile site mind you. It was a pain in the back to do anything with the old design if you weren't using a pc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkeldHailstorm Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 (edited) In response to post #55996416. #56001046, #56004111, #56006271 are all replies on the same post. Reveal hidden contents Quote CrossShot4 wrote: Why not have both? Just give the option under "Preferences" Quote sopmac45 wrote: This has been addressed by Dark0ne already and backed up by several members in this thread. Read and find out. To make it short for you : - We are not going back to the old site. Period. - We will not have the option to have two sites. Period. Why do you continue asking something that has been already addressed and it is a done deal ? Because you have the right to ask ? Yes, you do ... but asking again for something that cannot be done is a waste of time on your end. Quote Ruhadre wrote: I mean, it's Dark0ne's site, and if he wants to shoot his own site in the foot, then that's his business. Been using this site without complaint for years until this entire "new design" came up. I'm doing my best to be polite by even referring to it as a "new design". It's completely unusable by most.I agree with CrossShot4. Have both, or else you'll alienate a lot of users and modders. Being rude and pushy to people isn't helping your cause either. Don't act like Comcast when you hardly have a monopoly ;PThe site is ALREADY set up for both currently. It's fine the way it is now! Leaving you all free to do whatever you want with the new version side, while people can continue to enjoy the nexus experience they've enjoyed for years. Clearly, your intentions aren't geared toward the community, but more toward some weird form of pride in this new layout.Don't get me wrong, I love the Nexus. I go out of my way to make mods to help others, and I do my best to help others with problems, and I never asked once for a donation from others. But to force me to use a layout I hate, when they could give me the option to keep using the old site is just a slap in the face. Why should I go out of my way to make mods to make others happy when I'm just going to host them on a website that no longer shares my same interest in the community? Defeats the purpose. Also, I didn't see Dark0ne say anything specific in the original post about the destruction of the old site. He is allowed to change his mind. So I guess I should ask, are you speaking for him? Quote axonis wrote: @Ruhadre, you are not alone.I've recently been struck down by one of the users (premium or support, can't remember) for complaining about the lack of functionality of the new design. His argument was that I did not pitch in my vote in time. I did not even know that the voting took place. And now we have hundreds, maybe even thousands of Nexus regulars that agree with me. Why aren't we taken into consideration now?What's the deal with this new design anyway? The interface is horrible. Old Nexus works just fine, and is pretty enough. Why even make a new when people are still satisfied with the old? For some pointless modernization? Is the purpose of this site for administrators to graze their eyes upon, or for us common folk to use it?Bottom line, the new design is like a golden raincoat: it may look dazzling (though it does not, in this case) but is horribly impractical, and even crippling to the one that wears it (which it does, in both cases). And why the hell are some sups/prems so rude about all of this? Edited December 15, 2017 by Milanvukas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
votemarvel Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 After we feel confident that the new infrastructure is solid, we will revisit all that we can regarding user-experience, to hopefully address many of the concerns that are being raised in this thread.The great problem is that people don't really care what goes on behind the scenes of a website, they care that they get a good user experience while they are there.So I can't help but feel that the team has their priorities a little skewed toward the backend. After all if the new design ends up driving people away because it isn't a good experience, having a solid infrastructure behind the scenes isn't going to make a difference as no-one will be there to use it.Of course the behind the scenes infrastructure is important but the user experience while you get that setup isn't something that should be ignored until afterwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcdanielskh Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 In response to post #56003801. Reveal hidden contents Quote Ruhadre wrote: All I hear about the new design is how buggy it is. Nothings been improved. Personally, I don't really care, as I exclusively only use the old links. Every time I land on the new design by accident...I just cringe. So I'm ok with the new design as long as it doesn't slow down performance on the old site links.I do hope there isn't a plan to eventually get rid of the old site links. I will have nothing to do with the nexus if I am forced to use the new design. Oh, you can also get rid of the annoying bar at the top trying to get me to use the new layout. It's just in my way, and being ignored.Do you not read anything before you post?Somebody clue this guy in, i'm to tired.Better yet, nobody tell him anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcdanielskh Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 (edited) In response to post #55992001. Reveal hidden contents Quote HadToRegister wrote: I do not like the layout, it takes much more time to look at a "list" of mods than ever before. Very time wasting.I used to click on "Top Files" on each mod page, and get a nice quick LIST, that I could quickly scan UP and DOWN with minimal eye movement, and minimal scrolling.Now I get a Bunch of Moderate Side-by-Side BOXES, that I have to either scan Side-to-side then Down, then side-to-side, then DOWN then Side-To Side, scroll down the page, scan side-by-side, then down, then side-to-side etc, making looking at the Top Files list take a lot more time.This is the equivalent of opening a folder in Windows with a lot of files in it, and being able to look at the files in LIST view and see ALL the files at once, and then switching to EXTRA LARGE ICON view, while leaving the window the same size and now having to scan side to side, AND scroll up, down and sidewways in the SAME window to see all the files.A total step backwards.If there was an OPTION to quickly make that a Single Column LIST VIEW, along with the Huge Giant Side-by-Side Boxes, it would be nice. I.E. being able to switch views like in Windows, between List, Extra Large Icon, Tiles etc, it would add to the flexibility, because for me, this new layout is a hindrance to fast "mod shopping" HadToRegisterr,"By George", I think you may be onto something. I totally get what you're saying and I think you may have helped me to understand why some people are so upset about this new version. I like both the new version and the old. To me it's not that different. However, when you referenced "..opening a folder in windows with a lot of files in it, and being able to look at the files in LIST view.." it made me remember back when Windows first switched from listed files to a default of ICON view. People when "Ape s***" crazy for awhile about how they hated windows. Eventually it was figured out (or windows added, i can't remember which) functionality was added or discovered that allowed for a List viewI had no problems with the switch to ICONS but in some folders I prefer the contents to be in a List as well, and it sucked to constantly have to change the view. So I was supper happy when in addition to having the listview windows eventually got smart enough to remember your folder preference on an individual folder level. Perhaps, that the key. Perhaps there needs to be a way to configure for a list view or at least a tab that people can go to that has very little going for it visually but a very efficient list format with basic description next to each mod name displayed such as to get 20-30 on a page. Then clicking on any one could then direct you to the mod page as normal. If this tab was to have a robust search/sort function too, I think the "efficiency type people" would be very happy. Could be useful to everybody sometimes, especially if you know what you're looking for and just want to find it fast vs. "Window Shopping" and looking at all the new bling bling mods :) You know, it's like the old form vs. function argument. Function people say I do not care about Form I just need it to function efficiently. Form people say, If it does not look good I or others will not want to use it. Turns out both are correct.Your idea (if added to the new Nexus) may be what holds us all together as one big happy modding community instead of this fracture that I feel is occurring over this new Nexus. Edited December 16, 2017 by mcdanielskh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcdanielskh Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 (edited) In response to post #55865556. #55876431, #55886026, #55887056, #55887846, #55889711, #55892361, #55896501, #55903126, #55912996, #55918846, #55922706, #55933531, #55944111, #55953781, #55972076, #55988211, #55988226 are all replies on the same post. Reveal hidden contents Quote schnubbel76 wrote: I hate the new design so much Quote Graslama wrote: Why? Quote schnubbel76 wrote: I've explained it so much, i write every other day that i hate that. It is not good structured, it looks flat, i miss or dont find some old funtions, the colors are crap, the buttons are crap, it feeles unintuitive, i just dont like it, no i hate it and i will never understand why they felt the need to change it in the first place. It was good as it was. Never touch a working system. If only they would have made it better, but that is not the case. Nothing is better at all. At least not for the user. Maybe there were technical reasons to do this crap. But to me as a user, i feel f*#@ed by nexus.I know i am not able to change it and nobody will listen to me or my feelings about this and at least it is not my website, it is theirs, so nobody will give a single f*** about my opinion, but what i can do is tell them every other day, that i hate it forever and ever and i hate the nexus team for changing it. They need to know even if nobody cares. In a democracy, thats the least i can do. Using my right to stand up and say "I hate you". So thats what i do. Quote slippyguy wrote: Give some proper feedback and your opinion will be taken into account. Quote RestlessPilgrim wrote: Define "proper feedback" then because it's not like the numerous complaints aren't pretty clear! Didn't ask for it, don't like it, can't search properly, etc etc etc Just because people disagree with something you want to force on us doesn't make 'em wrong! Quote Ethreon wrote: Proper feedback - give feedback on the new version, either specifying what is wrong and you want changed, or what could be improved. The old one is not coming back."I hate it" is not really of any use to anyone. Quote schnubbel76 wrote: I dont see it in my responsibility to be "of use". I have just an opinion, i am very very sad about the changes that i mentioned and i dont want to be part of the thinktank for further changes. I want the old one back and as you say, that is not gonnna happen. So all is left to me is being frustrated and say it out loud, because somehow it helps me emotionally. At least more as if i just would remain silent. I know it is of no use. But it is not my duty to be of use for anybody. I have to endure the new design. So you have to endure my criticism. And i in return have to endure your criticism of my criticism. Circle of life. Quote LavaCroft wrote: If you're just going to complain for the complaining without even attempting to provide any kind of valuable feedback, I would create a Twitter account or something. Freeloading complainers like you don't realize that you do indeed have the power to cause changes in the design of the website. However, only if you are actually able to verbally express yourself in a way that explains your grievances and what the developers could do to improve the situation. Stop crying, stop complaining, try and help the developers improve on the things you feel are bad. It's a situation where nobody loses, everybody wins and the website improves. Quote schnubbel76 wrote: Lava Croft, ok, heres what the developers can do to improve the situation. Give us the option to switch back to the old website. Then im fine. No complaining anymore. Quote MARTMM3571 wrote: It would counter productive to run two versions of the site. Quote slippyguy wrote: Are you planning to pay for the development time spent supporting a legacy layout? Quote mcdanielskh wrote: You just sound like a big crying Baby that's scared of his new rattler and wants his old one back.Give real input or shut the hell up!! Please. Quote schnubbel76 wrote: mcdanielskh I dont give a s#*! about what you think about me as a person or my behaviour. I said i hate the new layout. Whats the big deal. You dont have to like what im saying. You dont even have to read it or take part in this argument. You can say to me that you hate me, or that you think im a crying baby, you even can wish me to die on cancer. But dont you ever try to shut me up. I dont know where you are coming from, but in my country we are allowed to speak freely. You will never take that away from me. Quote mcdanielskh wrote: schnubbel76 I did say Please :)Look, I don't hate you, and I seriously doubt that even you can whine enough to make anybody want to kill you. (Although I could be wrong).I just wish you would take a anti-drama pill and move on for god's sake.As far as where we are from, that's irrelevant, and I don't see how this has anything to do with freedom of speech. but FYI I am an American, and value freedom of speech.I have also been told to shut up many times in my life, usually because I need to be told to shut up. I am also not afraid to stand up and shout for what i believe when it is needed, like when it interferes with basic liberties like "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" and no our founding fathers of the constitution were not talking about you personal happiness to have the Nexus page look just like you want or else. Do you not hear how "entitled" you sound? If you truly understand the meaning of "freedom of speech" you would also know that freedom of speech does not give you the right to disturb the peace and make a general nuisance/ass of yourself. So ok, we all have heard how you just hate this new Nexus Layout, that you don't want to help make it better and that you just want to make noise and you feel you have a right to make as much noise as you want. Well friend, I will use my 1st amendment right to tell you that you are not standing up for your freedom of speech, you're just being a general a-hole. (oh BTW, you don't have a free speech right on the Nexus. The Nexus is very open in regard to speech, but they have the right to bounce you if they want. You can get your own web site if you want to say anything you want, but I digress..) Now if you had actionable input for these great people here at the Nexus to work with and they were trying to shut you up, I would be standing right next to you being as loud with it as I can :)Really though man, just chill bro. Don't take this stuff so seriously man. No one is attacking you personally. It's just words on a page man. If this stuff makes you wonder if people want to kill you, may I suggest seeing a Doctor for some medication or at least finding another hobby. Quote schnubbel76 wrote: I am disturbing peace? Thats something i dont hear often :DSee, you may be right, this whole thing went out of control. But is that really my fault? Look how it started. I only wrote on sentence about my frustration. Thats it. Everyone could have ignore it, but they didn't. From the very beginning i was put into defending myself for saying that. And with every time i was defending my saying, i got more hate and had to defend myself more. Everybody could have read my statement, think "ok, another whining a-hole" and go on. But no, it seems i had to be put in place and explaining myself for some reason.So i am not convinced, that it was really me disturbing that peace. I felt more disturbed in my own peace with defending myself over and over again. Quote mcdanielskh wrote: schnubbel76 Hey man your cool, I didn't need to flame you so hard. I see what you mean by being placed on the defensive. You certainly are not the only one that I wanted to yell at about being whiny , your post just kind of put me over the edge with the not wanting to help with feedback but wanting to keep complaining and all. I don't take back what I said, but I hope you will forgive the roughness in how I said it. Lookin back at my post, perhaps that was not necessary. You know I am not a New Nexus fanboy either.. I still liked the look of the old Nexus better, but personally; I have not had many issues with the function of the new Nexus. It's been more just a matter of getting use to thinks being a little different. I admit though that I have not been downloading at all yet, just browsing mods, and I did a few searches with simple filters, but I have had no problem. I will say I liked how vibrant and contrasty the old Nexus was compared to this new one, and I agree with many of the inputs people have given about color, font, and the overall flat look making it less easy to read. I admit at first look the new one looks more "up to date" even more slick and professional looking I think, but I would give some of that back to have a little more of the feel of the old Nexus. I wish I could quantify or qualify what it is that feels different, but I can't put my finger on it exactly.However, I also realize that this may all be physiological in that I'm just not use to the new Nexus yet. A year or two from now if we are able to go back (we will not be able to, this is just a hypothetical) and look at the old Nexus, it will/would probably look like amature hour compaired to the new one. Yes, the New Nexus needs some work but everybody knew it would, that why your input is needed. I have seen nothing thats a game ender, it all looks like some minor tweaking to me. Hey schnubbel76 the designers do need your input, it just needs to be something they can work with. Start simple. Pick one thing at a time to give input on. I would choose the thing that I dislike the most. Do your best to describe the problem with facts and examples, try to keep the emotional wording to a minimum. (good advice to myself as well) and if you have a sugest fix, try to be as descriptive as possible. I know you don't have to help or give input. You're totally right, but doesn't it make more sense to help and give input?Again, I'm sorry for the flames man :) Quote schnubbel76 wrote: Im sorry, i cant do this. I can not give input how to make it better. I know i will get used to the new style, i will find my functions somewhere somehow somewhen and since Nexusmods is the only good place for many Skyrim mods, i will get along with it. In the end i have no other choice.It's just, i will never understand, why they had to change it in the first place. It was good, it worked, and it looked good, even if maybe not professional when looking back in five years. Thats what keeps me confused, the fact that i have to get used to a change wich does not make sense to me at all, cause its not like with the style change came a major technical fix of something that was not working. Everything was working, so why bother?But i will live with it. Cause i'm Batma...... uhm cause i have to. Quote schnubbel76 wrote: Double post (btw: why cant i totally delete my comment? That would be an improvement.....)schnubbel76I get you man, I understand about being passionate in one's beliefs and opinions. It's like a burning fire but you need to leave it alone sometimes and let it cool. Fire in the belly is like energy but too much can burn you and make you feel sick. Hell, there are plenty of people giving input anyway. Feel free to comment if you like my friend, just try to keep your cool.I'm afraid that you trying to give input will just add fuel to your fire anyway. So, I agree with you. Forget about giving input, we don't want you to explode :)BTW Which comment were you trying to delete. I see indication in a post from you that it was a double post but I do not see the double post. Did you not refresh the page perhaps? That use to be a common problem with the old Nexus, However, it appears for me at least the the new Nexus automatically refreshes the page. Well it least it does after a post or an edit. Not sure about a Deletion. However, FYI I do not see your double so I believe its gone :) Edited December 16, 2017 by mcdanielskh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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