gengar807 Posted April 17, 2012 Author Share Posted April 17, 2012 does any of you guys know if they are coming out with expansion packs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastlyBeast Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 (edited) They are, but xbox is getting it first. But, IDC, because I bought the PC version AND the Xbox version! :dance: Edited April 19, 2012 by BeastlyBeast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FittyStim Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 (edited) Ok, as someone who has been reading forum posts forever, here are some basic logical conclusions. First, Bethesda can't just build a game for what each person in the gaming universe likes. Tastes are too varied. There are millions of gamers, many millions world-wide. In this world there are endless opinions about what is great and what is not. Over the years Bethesda has had to walk a crazy line. Some don't believe there should be same-sex relationships or marriages, while some feel it is a basic human right. Some feel that individual quests should not be so intricate and involved while others want each and every quest epic. Some do not want karmic choices to affect the game so that they are free to be as evil as they wish without shutting them out of certain other quests, while some want consequences for actions. Some (everyone) wants superb graphics, while at the same time offering epic gameplay, completely open worlds, and intense realism. Some would like nudity and heavy sexual content, and some don't like any skin exposed. Where Bethesda excels is that they try to find a balance in what has been requested. They can't of course release porno games, just so kids can pull themselves through puberty, but they at least allow for relationships. Also, they do something else, they provide tools to change the game for individual tastes. (Though there might be a wait) If everyone with a complaint would take up modding, the game would be what everyone wants. Those that don't want to or have the spare time to mod should be patient, as eventually the feature they want will be realized. If you can't understand Bethesda's predicament, check out how many varied house mods there are already. We (those of us who can't mod) should bow before the excellent modding community we have. Without them, we are left with a generalized version of the game. The people who are running pirated games HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO RIGHT TO COMPLAIN ABOUT ANYTHING! A large part of the problems you are having is due to the fact your game is hacked and cracked, and will never run right. So if your game is having problems with mods, and no one else's does, do not blame the modders, BUY THE GAME! I have a dinosaur computer, Pentium D 2.8 ghz (dual core, barely) 3 gigs ddr2, and the only new component is the Geforce GT 430 2gb graphics card, and my game runs smoothly (40+ fps) with 40 plus mods. (with the correct load order) That doesn't even count the texture mods. Just hang in there people and offer whatever help you can to your favorite modder, or learn the craft and your dreams may come true.You do have a point, the problem is, while beth cant do a game that would please everyone, they do try to cater to a wide audience as much as possible and that is also the problem why their games are being more and more simple with each release and why people ask them selfs, whats wrong.Everytime someone asks why is the game getting so dumbed down, someone answers with "they cant please everyone", yet they are forgetting that its actually this fact that they try to cater to a wider audience thats dumbing the game down.Also i find it a bit too much to acuse people from having pirate versions of the game just because they have problems, a large part of these problems is caused by the fact that many of them are new to the series and lack the knowledge how to properly install and troubleshoot the mods.Also skyrim workshop isnt helping this either, people just download and install mods without knowing they could conflict with eachother and then they come running to nexus, with threads "my game isnt working HALP". Ugh! This was a thread about why Skryim is becoming boring.  Now it's a thread about people who pirate the software and then have the gall to complain about bugs... Silly. Let's get back to the point in question. IMO Oblivion had better story lines. This is typical. Think about a tv show that you like. The first season is always best because the writing is fresh. After a while, it jumps the shark - to use a hackneyed phrase. Skyrim is season three. Oblivion was season one and two. Morrowind was the throw-away pilot episode that was critically ripped to shreads but now everyone looks back at nostalgically (crossref: Star Trek, pilot, Cmdr Pike). I'm closing in on 450 hours and haven't completely any quest line except for the ultra lame MG.  The only noteworthy character is Lydia - and that's only because my kid's walk around moaning: "I'm sworn to carry your burdens". I do miss those Oblivion Gates, goblins and the Adoring Fan. Well, maybe not the AF. Edited April 19, 2012 by FittyStim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD1 Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 Ok, as someone who has been reading forum posts forever, here are some basic logical conclusions. First, Bethesda can't just build a game for what each person in the gaming universe likes. Tastes are too varied. There are millions of gamers, many millions world-wide. In this world there are endless opinions about what is great and what is not. Over the years Bethesda has had to walk a crazy line. Some don't believe there should be same-sex relationships or marriages, while some feel it is a basic human right. Some feel that individual quests should not be so intricate and involved while others want each and every quest epic. Some do not want karmic choices to affect the game so that they are free to be as evil as they wish without shutting them out of certain other quests, while some want consequences for actions. Some (everyone) wants superb graphics, while at the same time offering epic gameplay, completely open worlds, and intense realism. Some would like nudity and heavy sexual content, and some don't like any skin exposed. Where Bethesda excels is that they try to find a balance in what has been requested. They can't of course release porno games, just so kids can pull themselves through puberty, but they at least allow for relationships. Also, they do something else, they provide tools to change the game for individual tastes. (Though there might be a wait) If everyone with a complaint would take up modding, the game would be what everyone wants. Those that don't want to or have the spare time to mod should be patient, as eventually the feature they want will be realized. If you can't understand Bethesda's predicament, check out how many varied house mods there are already. We (those of us who can't mod) should bow before the excellent modding community we have. Without them, we are left with a generalized version of the game. The people who are running pirated games HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO RIGHT TO COMPLAIN ABOUT ANYTHING! A large part of the problems you are having is due to the fact your game is hacked and cracked, and will never run right. So if your game is having problems with mods, and no one else's does, do not blame the modders, BUY THE GAME! I have a dinosaur computer, Pentium D 2.8 ghz (dual core, barely) 3 gigs ddr2, and the only new component is the Geforce GT 430 2gb graphics card, and my game runs smoothly (40+ fps) with 40 plus mods. (with the correct load order) That doesn't even count the texture mods. Just hang in there people and offer whatever help you can to your favorite modder, or learn the craft and your dreams may come true.You do have a point, the problem is, while beth cant do a game that would please everyone, they do try to cater to a wide audience as much as possible and that is also the problem why their games are being more and more simple with each release and why people ask them selfs, whats wrong.Everytime someone asks why is the game getting so dumbed down, someone answers with "they cant please everyone", yet they are forgetting that its actually this fact that they try to cater to a wider audience thats dumbing the game down.Also i find it a bit too much to acuse people from having pirate versions of the game just because they have problems, a large part of these problems is caused by the fact that many of them are new to the series and lack the knowledge how to properly install and troubleshoot the mods.Also skyrim workshop isnt helping this either, people just download and install mods without knowing they could conflict with eachother and then they come running to nexus, with threads "my game isnt working HALP". Ugh! This was a thread about why Skryim is becoming boring.  Now it's a thread about people who pirate the software and then have the gall to complain about bugs... Silly. Let's get back to the point in question. IMO Oblivion had better story lines. This is typical. Think about a tv show that you like. The first season is always best because the writing is fresh. After a while, it jumps the shark - to use a hackneyed phrase. Skyrim is season three. Oblivion was season one and two. Morrowind was the throw-away pilot episode that was critically ripped to shreads but now everyone looks back at nostalgically (crossref: Star Trek, pilot, Cmdr Pike). I'm closing in on 450 hours and haven't completely any quest line except for the ultra lame MG.  The only noteworthy character is Lydia - and that's only because my kid's walk around moaning: "I'm sworn to carry your burdens". I do miss those Oblivion Gates, goblins and the Adoring Fan. Well, maybe not the AF.  So what you're saying is Arena had the best story of them all? lol just kidding I know what you're trying to say here, but Skyrim's storyline was quite similar to Oblivion's, good but without depth, I don't see why Skyrim would be worse. I don't want to be the bad guy here but I'm on a 220 hours game with my Nord and I'm not bored at all, especially (and thanks to modders) with mods, it makes the game very interesting and not boring at all, it's an RPG, you have to get in your character like if it was you and the world itself and the surroundings, get in the adventure, but most people don't, they just want to finish the storyline/game like if it was an action game, and after complain about the little details Bethesda missed out, play the darn game first as it's supposed to be played. Don't get me wrong I loved Oblivion so much man, but Skyrim is close to be as good as Oblivion now and will be better every week and will eventually be amazing, I tell you. :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yota71 Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 get in the adventure, but most people don't, they just want to finish the storyline/game like if it was an action game, and after complain about the little details Bethesda missed out, play the darn game first as it's supposed to be played. What storyline, i have finished it just in the first playtrough , the other four are meant by exploring every single place searching fot hidden beauty, and hidden treasure, i dont care of the storyline in this playtrough more than 200 hour of game and i have just done the thieves guild questline :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tlantl Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 I'm sad to say that the game is definitely low on replayability from my perspective. In the last week I've loaded the game only to tab out before the thing even loaded fully. I couldn't be bothered waiting for the thing to load just to have the same nothing to do that I had the last time I played it. Â Doing the same quests over and over doesn't have the same feel as other games. In Fallout I can usually do moira's quests to the end before getting bored, maybe because there's more variety in the encounters or in the pacing or the challenge in defeating the opposition. Oblivion was made better by the mods people made but it too had me yawning. Â I guess the more resources they expend on things like dragons and oblivion towers the less varied the game content becomes. There might be more quests but they are pretty much the same after you see them a few dozen times. The faction quests are short and ultimately lead to the same end. I only actually finished one of them. I guess being let down by crappy endings and meaningless leadership roles is one of the reasons. Â Â I guess the elder scrolls formula is in need of some serious rethinking or it's going to be dying a slow death. ( like 10 million units shipped is any indication of a dying series right?) I guess we'll know in five years or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRavyn Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 Tlantl, I've said it, before, but it bears repeating: I'm convinced that Skyrim, in spite of it's Mature rating, was targeted to 12-year-old autistic, male, console gamers with attention deficit disorder. Even so, it does a few things better than Oblivion, but is so dumbed down from that that game that the improvements just don't make it stand above it. At least in my opinion. People say the same thing about Oblivion with respect to Morrowind, too. This seems to represent a downward spiral into mediocrity. Skyrim is already there (mediocre). What is the next installment of ES going to be, anyway? A game where all you get is one option to "choose" at every stage of the game and where you're railroaded, with no choice at all, into what missions to do, and when to do them? Hey. Just write a book. Maybe I'll read it. I want some role-playing in a game. Neither Oblivion or Skyrim offers this. Now, don't get me wrong. Skryim, the world-space is not boring. With my present character (playthrough #11) all I'm doing is exploring the world and doing whatever I want to do.Jarl Balgruuf can go suck on a rock for all I care. So can the Greybeards, and the Blades, and everyone else involved in any of the "primary" quests. I've decided to role-play (a rogue) in a game that has absolutely no real role-playing in it. It can be done. I'm having a blast. No, the world is not the problem, even though I've heard people complain about the lack of "variety". I see a lot of variety. It's just not the same kind of variety as you get in Oblivion, but I think they're comparable. You just have to be able to see the nuances in Nature. I don't think most of the city-folk who play this game have enough experience in the out-of-doors to be able to do this, so all they see in Skyrim is "sameness". No, the problem in Skyrim ... the thing about it that bores me to tears, is the stock quest structure. It was bad in Oblivion. It's still bad in Skyrim. It's all about fetch and kill (with the occasional, very rare, rescue-and-escort mission). In fact, most of it is fetching stuff for people. Maybe I should have named my character "Gofer". You know, "go fer this and go fer that". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsung Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 I'm playing it for the first time, and am starting to get bored at level 61. I believe I have completed the majority of the quest - e.g., read the Elders Scroll on top of the mountain, become head of a majority of the factions, helped Stormcloaks to control 2 realms, etc. Hence, I wondering what some players do to get to level 80 before they face the final battle? Since passing level 57 or so, it takes a lot or long time to get to level 61 :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
totalwarman Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 After playing about 200 hours it become bore. I can't imagine after 400 or 500. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gengar807 Posted May 6, 2012 Author Share Posted May 6, 2012 they are also coming out with an elder scrolls online and idk how thats going to work out :/.....any feelings for this you guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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