Ciberious42 Posted March 26, 2012 Author Share Posted March 26, 2012 Ok, before you empty out your "Trash Bin" on your desktop. Go into your bin and restore your older folder, why it asks do you want to replace the ini files make sure you dont over write anything new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nosisab Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 Actually that's a very radical procedure for no mods actually compromise vanilla files. At least in something the new approach of having mods in BSA helps preventing overwrite albeit presenting proper difficulties to resolve conflicts. That makes reinstalling the game unnecessary unless if it is corrupted in any way. Now, the loose files at the /data presents a particular problem depending if in some way they have been overwritten in between mods (notice is not the same as overlapped). In this last case the mod's "install" order becomes of fundamental importance. Due to the difficulty of determining what is going on there at some point, the advice to clean the /data completely before reinstalling the mods again makes sense. One the main drawbacks of having loose files is a mod update may leave leftovers from it's own versions and cause issues if the previous version was not totally uninstalled before the update. Still the advantages by far outperform the BSA model when dealing with conflicts but that is another story. Last but not the least, the save games ... That's possibly the most sensible problem here. Many times a game succeeds loading a save game but them the player may be just "unlucky" it did if the "seeds of doom" are already dormant there, in this case an outright crash scream there is a problem that needs to be solved before getting deeper. Most problems related to save games are due to load order and some are evident enough and some are very situational, manifesting only when a set of conditions triggers the issue. To this last case, not even the whole procedure to totally and unconditionally purging all traces of the game before reinstalling the whole thing helps, it still depend or may depend on the load order being actually used in contrast of that existent when saved. Most of times the engine is able to clean the environment of missing features but one should not take it for granted lightly. All in all, the OP proposal surely grants the most possibly clean environment to start with and has the advantage of making harder to overstep something. It would be something I would try only if everything else failed but I talk only for myself. The most important in all this, is if going for that drastic route, enjoy the opportunity to get and install the last version of each mod you want. At this point many originally newbies know better about load order, is learning about the importance of install order for some mods and have a better idea of what he actually used and maybe, only maybe, avoid installing mods with chances of conflicting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nosisab Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 (edited) Oh my, all the while I was writing the above post, Steam pops up stating have updated something for Skyrim... crossing fingers before actually going there to figure out what the heck was installed. Edit: yes, it is another patch, small one but enough to put SKSE down. -> 1.5.26... Edited March 26, 2012 by nosisab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manofsteel1120 Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 i swear to go i want somthing to hate for this...i dont know if its mods the patch or what but i am soo pissed i CTD EVERY time at one of two places right before i kill first dragon and i walk through dragons reach, or after i kill hit and dragonsreach icon diapears from my map and i CTD when i walk back into white run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanakoMagojiro Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 a clean install? seriously? that's your solution? that's long and painful, and is nothing revolutionary. It also DOES NOT ADDRESS THE PROBLEM AT ALL. If doing a clean install fixed things for you, that\s entirely incidental. Doing that would basically fix everything that can be fixed, and whatever the problem is might get rolled up in there somewhere. It's not a solution. It's like saying the solution to crime is to nuke humanity out of existence and start the human race over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thompsonar Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 If it fixes the problem it sounds like a solution..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ciberious42 Posted March 26, 2012 Author Share Posted March 26, 2012 A clean install takes the pollution out of your data. Reinstalling everything helps, if you read step by step it explains that. This addresses several errors, not just CTD. Just because people want to be lazy and don't want to take the 30 minutes to an hour to do this, then... that's on you. Doing this gives the game a chance to adjust to 1.5 with out conflicts. People need to understand when a game is patched, it's for original content... not for the 1,000 things that are installed in between, of course a patch is going to cause conflicts when there's something in the way of doing what its there for. This is a solution, one of many. In the end, it's the ultimate. YES THIS MAY BE LONG AND PAINFUL, BUT GUESS WHAT!?! It's better then sobbing about not being able to play at all... Don't bash the thread because you don't like the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mendo03 Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 A clean install takes the pollution out of your data. Reinstalling everything helps, if you read step by step it explains that. This addresses several errors, not just CTD. Just because people want to be lazy and don't want to take the 30 minutes to an hour to do this, then... that's on you. Doing this gives the game a chance to adjust to 1.5 with out conflicts. People need to understand when a game is patched, it's for original content... not for the 1,000 things that are installed in between, of course a patch is going to cause conflicts when there's something in the way of doing what its there for. This is a solution, one of many. In the end, it's the ultimate. YES THIS MAY BE LONG AND PAINFUL, BUT GUESS WHAT!?! It's better then sobbing about not being able to play at all... Don't bash the thread because you don't like the process.question bro.. what if i make a new game w/o a mod.. and install mod after escaping halgen? is that going to work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funymunky Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Thanks for this guide! I really wanted to do a clean install, but I'm pretty lazy and never got around to it. Now that there was an easy to follow list, it kind of motivated me to do it. Anyways, it fixed the problem I was having where I CTD'd every few minutes. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ciberious42 Posted March 27, 2012 Author Share Posted March 27, 2012 A clean install takes the pollution out of your data. Reinstalling everything helps, if you read step by step it explains that. This addresses several errors, not just CTD. Just because people want to be lazy and don't want to take the 30 minutes to an hour to do this, then... that's on you. Doing this gives the game a chance to adjust to 1.5 with out conflicts. People need to understand when a game is patched, it's for original content... not for the 1,000 things that are installed in between, of course a patch is going to cause conflicts when there's something in the way of doing what its there for. This is a solution, one of many. In the end, it's the ultimate. YES THIS MAY BE LONG AND PAINFUL, BUT GUESS WHAT!?! It's better then sobbing about not being able to play at all... Don't bash the thread because you don't like the process.question bro.. what if i make a new game w/o a mod.. and install mod after escaping halgen? is that going to work? No, you need a clean install... with my steps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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