What probably is the best aircraft ever

[SubjectProphet]

 

 

All we know is it's supposed to split in half, but NOTHING else.

 

Well, if ALL it can do is split in half then it's am pretty lousy plane, yes? :biggrin:

 

Why are the quotes empty? Or is that my horrible internet?

 

Good point, if all it can do is split in half then the pilots over in the USAF have quite the handful......

[Fonger]

 

 

All we know is it's supposed to split in half, but NOTHING else.

 

Well, if ALL it can do is split in half then it's am pretty lousy plane, yes? :biggrin:

 

Why are the quotes empty? Or is that my horrible internet?

 

Good point, if all it can do is split in half then the pilots over in the USAF have quite the handful......

first you prove the concept

 

then you have it drop a live deathclaw while it splits

[Vindekarr]

 

 

All we know is it's supposed to split in half, but NOTHING else.

 

Well, if ALL it can do is split in half then it's am pretty lousy plane, yes? :biggrin:

 

Why are the quotes empty? Or is that my horrible internet?

 

Good point, if all it can do is split in half then the pilots over in the USAF have quite the handful......

first you prove the concept

 

then you have it drop a live deathclaw while it splits

 

Fill the aircraft with bears. When it splits, they rain down.

[CommanderCrazy]

Well the fall would do a number on them.

[Vindekarr]

Well the fall would do a number on them.

 

Parachutes.

[HeyYou]

Well the fall would do a number on them.

 

Parachutes.

 

That would probably work rather well..... The enemy soldiers would look up, see bears with parachutes, and wouldn't believe their eyes, till the bears were on the ground, and tossing bodies about.

 

Sure would get my attention.....

[Vindekarr]

Well the fall would do a number on them.

 

Parachutes.

 

That would probably work rather well..... The enemy soldiers would look up, see bears with parachutes, and wouldn't believe their eyes, till the bears were on the ground, and tossing bodies about.

 

Sure would get my attention.....

 

Exactly. In WarHammer 40K they do Shock N Awe by dropping drop-pods of Space Marines, with melee weapons, right into the middle of the enemy force, usualy at night. Since we don't have the afforementioned three-metre-tall chainsword wielding cyborgs here on planet earth, or working drop-pods, bears with parachutes seem like the nearest, most cost-effective option. Afterall, it worked for the Soviets in Command N Conquer.

Edited April 19, 2012 by Vindekarr

[Vagrant0]

Since we don't have the afforementioned three-metre-tall chainsword wielding cyborgs here on planet earth, or working drop-pods

See... They should really just make working drop-pods. If they can land a fragile robot on Mars, they can make a capsule with alloy shell with enough shock absorbers to allow a group of about 20 standing marines in battlegear to survive a fall from 15k feet. I mean... there are certainly enough egg drop experiments done in physics classes to supply a proper working model. That's essentially all it is. Can even use the force of the impact (applied to a collapsing landing surface) to fire a primary wave of countermeasures (steel darts around the pod) to both neutralize anyone near the landing site, and add an additional element of fear (as they go slicing through nearby vehicles, buildings, animals, people, ect) for when it does pop open letting the marines out. It's mostly just a matter of having a pneumatic system that can handle those amounts of pressures. 5000 times more effective than just dropping a bomb on the same area.

 

But sadly those kinds of wars where anything like that would have a use are a thing of the past. These days wars are fought more with ideas and small skirmishes against a small force, instead of large scale pushes into enemy territory. No conflicts against trained military, just a bunch of brainwashed fanatics or dissidents. And anything like that would certainly have humanitarian groups and animal rights activists up in arms with how it would indiscriminately damage an area before any troops were even on the ground.

[SubjectProphet]

Since we don't have the afforementioned three-metre-tall chainsword wielding cyborgs here on planet earth, or working drop-pods

See... They should really just make working drop-pods. If they can land a fragile robot on Mars, they can make a capsule with alloy shell with enough shock absorbers to allow a group of about 20 standing marines in battlegear to survive a fall from 15k feet. I mean... there are certainly enough egg drop experiments done in physics classes to supply a proper working model. That's essentially all it is. Can even use the force of the impact (applied to a collapsing landing surface) to fire a primary wave of countermeasures (steel darts around the pod) to both neutralize anyone near the landing site, and add an additional element of fear (as they go slicing through nearby vehicles, buildings, animals, people, ect) for when it does pop open letting the marines out. It's mostly just a matter of having a pneumatic system that can handle those amounts of pressures. 5000 times more effective than just dropping a bomb on the same area.

 

But sadly those kinds of wars where anything like that would have a use are a thing of the past. These days wars are fought more with ideas and small skirmishes against a small force, instead of large scale pushes into enemy territory. No conflicts against trained military, just a bunch of brainwashed fanatics or dissidents. And anything like that would certainly have humanitarian groups and animal rights activists up in arms with how it would indiscriminately damage an area before any troops were even on the ground.

 

Thanks but I'd rather not have all my organs fly to my head falling thousands of feet in a drop pod......… oh, and I am scared of heights. Though I have jumped out of planes and helicopters. But that was because I was shoved and I had a parachute.

[Vindekarr]

Since we don't have the afforementioned three-metre-tall chainsword wielding cyborgs here on planet earth, or working drop-pods

See... They should really just make working drop-pods. If they can land a fragile robot on Mars, they can make a capsule with alloy shell with enough shock absorbers to allow a group of about 20 standing marines in battlegear to survive a fall from 15k feet. I mean... there are certainly enough egg drop experiments done in physics classes to supply a proper working model. That's essentially all it is. Can even use the force of the impact (applied to a collapsing landing surface) to fire a primary wave of countermeasures (steel darts around the pod) to both neutralize anyone near the landing site, and add an additional element of fear (as they go slicing through nearby vehicles, buildings, animals, people, ect) for when it does pop open letting the marines out. It's mostly just a matter of having a pneumatic system that can handle those amounts of pressures. 5000 times more effective than just dropping a bomb on the same area.

 

But sadly those kinds of wars where anything like that would have a use are a thing of the past. These days wars are fought more with ideas and small skirmishes against a small force, instead of large scale pushes into enemy territory. No conflicts against trained military, just a bunch of brainwashed fanatics or dissidents. And anything like that would certainly have humanitarian groups and animal rights activists up in arms with how it would indiscriminately damage an area before any troops were even on the ground.

 

I agree, in WarHammer Drop-Pods, and the Space Marines that use them, were created to answer the threat of large-scale alien incursions, and battle forces a regular human couldn't. The first other possibility with drop-pods is rather than making the pod protect the occupant, thinking about protecting the occupant from the pod. WarHammer's Space Marines are only about 20-30% human-they don't need an extensively shielded drop capsule or parachute because their elleven-inch thick armour, metal reinforced skeleton and other augmentations make them able to survive a high-G impact. With the posibilities offered by rapidly advancing science of Mechanised-exoskeletons, we may be able to create a working system yet.

 

The second possibility I can see for drop pods, is rather than use them like the Space Marines do-to smash cyborg melee troops into the middle of an enemy, I can see them being more relevent to us now as a covert device, to insert a small force, at night, behind enemy lines, in a manner that's much quieter and faster than dropping them by helicopter. How the pod would be launched is up for discussion, but I can think of a fair few ways that they'd be a useful way to sneak troops behind-lines. The critical factor here would be moving the pod slowly and silently, like a glider. No flames or rockets or hitting the ground at 800 km/h, more of a silent glide, at night. The side effect of this is a much, much more survivable landing, and by extention no need for complex ablative heta shielding or redonkulously durable pod casings.

 

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