duckyduckyquackquack Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 Since the last game update I'm now having an issue in game, where if I try to use any Armor Workbench the game instantly crashes to the desktop. All other workbenches work fine I can use Weapons, Power Armor, Cooking, Chemisty, Settlement etc all without issue, but touch an Armor Bench and crash city. I'm not even sure where to begin looking for the culprit in my load order: # Automatically generated by VortexUnofficial Fallout 4 Patch.espArmorKeywords.esmBetter Manufacturing.espHUDFramework.esmSimSettlements.esmConcealedArmor.esmModularMilitaryBackpackWeightPatch.eslXDI.esm3dscopes.esp3dscopes-AddToSpawnList.esp3dscopes-framework.esp4 x XP.espAdvSettleTurretSet.espBetter Manufacturing - Valdacil Patch.espfree_downgrades.espConcealedArmor.espclothingoverhaul.espClothingOverhaulSP_XB1_PC.espArmorsmith Extended.espAE-Armor and Weapon Paint Patch.espArmorsmith All DLCs Patch.espAEWS.espBTInteriors_Project.espBTInt_Optimization.espHAIA.espCombatZoneRestored.espFarm.espEli_Armour_Compendium.espAGOMBz.espAllSetsExtended.espASEFarHarbor.espsuperscrap.espsanguinaire - main.espBTInt_Menus.espNukaWorldRedRocketEx.espAGOMBz_CP_ASE_ASEFH_ASENW.espAmazingFollowerTweaks.espAmazingFollowerTweaks_XDI_FIX.espCreationClubWeaponsImmersionPatchAllWeapons.espAntiMatDMGn2xRNGinc.espAutomatronUnlocked.espAutomatronUnlockedNukaParts.espAWKCR - Mod Power Armor Engine Glitch Fix.espVanillaBootyOs.espBackpacks of the Commonwealth.espBetter Armour & Weapon Naming.espBetter Armour & Weapon Naming - All DLC.espBetter Armour & Weapon Naming - Automatron.espBetter Armour & Weapon Naming - Far Harbour.espManufacturingExtended.espBetter Manufacturing - Manufacturing Extended Additions.espBetter Vendor Stalls.espBetter Weapon Scrap.espCrafting Mastery.espstarlightwingfix.espCheatTerminal.espLR_Motorcycle.espSpectacleIslandBoat.espLR_LoneWandererFarHarbour.espLR_LoneWandererNukaWorld.espbridgefix.espBuildingGroundFix.espcc_PowerArmorSkin_Camo_StealthFix.espCCMMB AE Patch.espClassic And Funny Death Narriations (Loud).espCleanSettlement Beds.espCompanionsGoHome_A.espCraftable Adhesives.espCrafting Mastery - AM Replicas.espCrafting Mastery - Automatron.espCrafting Mastery - Base Replicas.espCrafting Mastery - Clutter Items.espCrafting Mastery - Clutter Items FH.espCrafting Mastery - Clutter Items NW.espCrafting Mastery - Far Harbor.espCrafting Mastery - FH Replicas.espCrafting Mastery - Legendary Extras.espCrafting Mastery - Nuka world.espCrafting Mastery - NW Replicas.espinfinite.espstarlightdoorfix.espVarmintRifle.espSelfRadio25.espCrudeBlowback.espCrudeBlowback - AWKCR.espCrudeBlowback-2xDMG.espdD-Enhanced Blood.espdD - MoreBloodandBits.espDLC items to manufacturing.espHandmadeRevolver.espDocDrumlin.espEasier Hacking - 1 Word.espEasy Lockpick.espEli Armor Compendium AE Patch.espEli_CC Tunnel Snakes Armour Patch.espEli_NukaPatch.espEli_WastelanderClothing.espEli_WastelanderClothing AE.espessentialtoprotected.espSettlement Resources Rebalanced.espFillBottleAnyDifficulty.espFO4Hotkeys.espFreeze.espGhoulIdleSound.espgrenadeflipoffsound.espGround_Vanilla.espGround_Farm.espGuaranteed Pickpocket.espHandmadeRevolver - AWKCR-VIS.espHandmadeRevolver-2xDMG.espHelmetToggle.espImmersive HUD.espIncreasedSettlerPopulation50.espLarger Shipments.espLongerPowerLinesInf.espmaintainradiosilence.espManufacturingExtendedFH.espMergedPatch0.espMilitary Backpack Weight Patch.espModdableRobotSettlers.espMoreDeadBodies.espno scope fade in.espNoMoreRandomTurretMks.espOutfitSwitcher.espPA-Quick Animations.espPip-Boy Flashlight.espPushAwayCompanions.espquadscrap.espRecycleBottles.espSalvageBeacons.espScrappableLegendariesUniquesFO4andDLCs.espscrappable_power_armor_parts.espScrappableBandanas.espSettlementMenuManager.espSettler Sandbox Overhaul.espSimple Food Fix.espSKKDynamicTimescale.espSKKQuantumStorage.espSKKScrapper.espSlowTime.espSpawnSettlerButtonSS.espSPECIAL-049.espTheFridgeWireless.espThirdPersonADS.espUCO_CCPatch_MorganSpaceSuit.espUncappedSettlementSurplus.espUNnaked Power Armor.espVarmintRifle - AWKCR-VIS.espVatsOverThere_IncreasedVATSRange_AimIncreaseHigh.espScrap Everything - Ultimate Edition.espFarm_CP_ScrapEverything_UE.espScrapUpdate - Ultimate.espScrapEverythingDisablerProject.espStartMeUp.espStartMeUpFarHarborPatch.espStartMeUpNukaWorldPatch.esp If anyone has any suggestions I'd be really grateful to know how to fix this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HadToRegister Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 You know, you can get rid of ALL of those Crafting Mastery ESPS if you download one of the OPTIONAL Files instead, because the Mod Author has merged them all together in different Combinations.There's Combo 1, Combo 2, Combo 3 , and Combo 4Pick which Combo fits your installation, Uninstall Crafting Mastery, and Install the Combo instead.The Mod page could be a little clearer on that, but anyway, it will save you a bunch of esp slots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aufisch Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 Deleted; as it can't be the same problem, since you can open all the other workbenches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duckyduckyquackquack Posted June 30, 2018 Author Share Posted June 30, 2018 Think I've fixed it by trial and error disabling and loading the game and trying to access a armor bench. Seems like the the offending mods for me are: Concealed ArmorsConcealed Armor Season Pass AWKCR 3.x.x compability patch I'm wondering if it's because they contain an ArmorKeywords.esm replacement file that's older then the current standalone Armor Keywords Mod, which they overwrite then because Vortex offers you know way of excluding that file from being installed and subsequently mods that look for and require the newer Armor Keywods file can't find it because Concealed Armors has overwritten it. I'm even more surprised that Vortex doesn't even offer a warning that this is what will happen when you install the mod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algabar Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Think I've fixed it by trial and error disabling and loading the game and trying to access a armor bench. Seems like the the offending mods for me are: Concealed ArmorsConcealed Armor Season Pass AWKCR 3.x.x compability patch I'm wondering if it's because they contain an ArmorKeywords.esm replacement file that's older then the current standalone Armor Keywords Mod, which they overwrite then because Vortex offers you know way of excluding that file from being installed and subsequently mods that look for and require the newer Armor Keywods file can't find it because Concealed Armors has overwritten it. I'm even more surprised that Vortex doesn't even offer a warning that this is what will happen when you install the mod. Glad you solved the case. ^^ But in fact, Vortex SHOULD tell you that there was a conflict. There are those messages on an orange background telling you that there is a conflict. There's also those "lightning" icons, which are red, if you got an unsolved conflict. Okay, Vortex doesn't force you to make a decision or take any action - which might be subject to discussion. But the warnings ARE there. From my experience, Vortex is absolutely reliable in this respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duckyduckyquackquack Posted July 1, 2018 Author Share Posted July 1, 2018 I think the problem was that after installing the mods one of those screens popped up that said a file had been changed outside of Vortex, possible as I think I download Armor Keywords via the in game mod menu rather then nexus and vortex. So when installing Concealed Armor it didn't warn about the conflict and instead choose to load the ArmorKeywords.esm from Concealed Armor over the one already in my data folder. This then broke several of my other installed mods that require the later version of Armor Keywords. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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