vyrelis Posted May 21, 2012 Share Posted May 21, 2012 I don't know about everyone else but I feel like the lore is so horribly screwed up if I play anything but a Nord. I've tried mods for being Dwemer, since they were in Skyrim before Nedes but it still doesn't feel right because of the dragonborn bloodlines with Tiber Septim and so on. My current character is even named after the first Empress, Queen Alessia. "The first dragonborn"I love role-playing Khajiit and joining the thieves guild, or playing as Dunmer and harassing Ulfric, but I find myself unable to do anything related to the main story. It doesn't feel right.It also bothers me that after everything, you cannot become High King or Queen of Skyrim. Is it not the dragonborn's rightful place? It's just frustrating to me that in such a vast game, that there are limits here and there.Does anyone else have this OCD about following the lore of ES? Stories? Anything? I just really wanted to get this off of my chest lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShAd0wC4t Posted May 21, 2012 Share Posted May 21, 2012 I still haven't fully played the game through to the T. I was wondering if you could become king, but this confirms as much as I had figured. Lore wise, why does it matter if you're playing a Nord in Skyrim, or not? Throughout the game you see other races who are there for a reason. The dragonborn might not even require blood ties. Why! *gasp* Maybe you're just special? This only makes me want to play the game more thoroughly. Thanks for that. I'm a lore fan myself, but I lack a lot of info, and never played Morrowind. I'm not the type to browse websites on story details, because I'd rather play the game and learn through stages. Keeps me in character, ya know? I agree with you on the dragonborn being able to become king/queen. You should at least be allowed to fight for it. You're certainly godly enough to. I could **tch slap Ulfric into Oblivion. Haha. OCD wise I refuse to get mods with modern things, but that seems kind of an obvious choice seeing that the world is medieval/fantasy. That's about it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubnoman Posted May 21, 2012 Share Posted May 21, 2012 I am playing characters that will fit into the scheme of things. I have two Nord characters (both female) and one of them (a warrior) will be a storm cloak. I want to play as an Imperial woman (another warrior) and make her join the legion. The other Nord woman won't join the storm cloaks or the imperials. She will be a part of the thieves guild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lambtonworm Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 (edited) I also have this problem myself, being the huge lore nerd that I am. You may not require blood ties, but in terms of lore it would not be likely that a khajiit can use a form of nordic sorcery. (not saying its impossible, it's just a really big stretch to make it fit play style wise). It would also be kind of awkward to be the nordic savior and be a high elf or something. It was the same in Morrowind when you were the Nerevarine, it was kind of hard to be the Dunmer hero of prophecy and be an argonian at the same time. It just did not feel genuine to me. Same as joining and ruling one of the great houses, Hlaalu you could get away with it but the others would be kind of odd. It wasn't like this in Oblivion. Cyrodiil was so cosmopolitan that being the hero could mean you could be any race or any background. It was much more vague as to who you were and Martin was the real hero of the story. That's why in Skyrim I have all leaders of each faction be a different character of the proper race and back story, with only one of them being the Dragonborn able to use shouts ( and either he's an imperial or a nord).As for Elderscrolls lore though, you could as easily be an Imperial as well as a Nord since most of the known "dragonborns" were actually the Imperial Emperors not any nordic hero. And remember that there are many nords who are still very loyal to the Empire and probably wouldn't think too much of an imperial being one of their saviors. So if you didn't just want to play as a Nord you could easily make the lore correct transition to playing an imperial as well, but probably not any other race. Maybe a breton since all of the Nords, bretons, and Imperials came from the Nedes. In all likelyhood the first dragonborns were probably Nedic in origin depending on how far back you go. Other than that though it would probably break the feel of elderscrolls lore. Maybe in the next elderscrolls game you can be another vague savior like in Arena, Daggerfall, and Oblivion. Maybe we'll get really lucky and we could actually choose not to be a savior, but that might be asking for too much. Edited May 22, 2012 by lambtonworm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrius2 Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 You can be of any race to be Dragonborn really, it's a blessing from the gods. However, if you wanna be of a Nord bloodline you can be Imperial or Breton as well. Imperials ARE Nords lorewise, they may have become different in culture and the land has shaped their bodies different, but in the end they're both the same race (The Imperial race didn't even exist before Oblivion),Breton are halfbloods of Nord and Elven descent so naturally they may have a Dragonborn bloodline as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rennn Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 (edited) (The Imperial race didn't even exist before Oblivion), I thought there were Imperials in Daggerfall? *goes off to load DOSbox* Huh, I checked, and it looks like you're correct. There's the Imperial Province on the starting map, but you can't actually play as an Imperial in Daggerfall. I never tried before. Edited May 22, 2012 by Rennn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgiegril Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 I thought St. Alessia was the first Dragonborn? She was from Cyrodil, not a Nord? According to the Elder Scrolls Wiki, the Dragonborn is not a genetic trait but rather a gift bestowed by the gods. Edler Scrolls Wiki Personally, this time I am playing a half-Redguard/Half Altmer female who was raised by Kajiit. I like the idea that the Dragonborn represents the unification of Tamriel, not just the avoidance of the the world's end, but a new beginning. (Yeah I'm a starry eyed optimist. Or a bloody sword optimist...) I played a Conan-style Nord the first time. I agree it seems to be what Bethesda had in mind, bit I appreciate that they left it open to revision.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macole Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 (edited) Imperials ARE Nords lorewise, they may have become different in culture and the land has shaped their bodies different, but in the end they're both the same race (The Imperial race didn't even exist before Oblivion),Just a minor point, Imperials were introduced as a playable race in Morrowind. As for following the lore, I'm not sure but I'm having problems connecting the dots. I seem to have lost the ElderScrolls connection the previous game held for me. In the other games I always had the feeling that I was following the prophecy of the scrolls to ensure the success of the empire. Even in Morrowind My feeling was I wasn't the true Neverine but it was the empire using knowledge from the scrolls to manipulate Dunmer prophecies in order to further suppress the elves. I don't get that kind of connection with Skyrim. It seems to have gone off in a different direction all together. May the Falmer rise again in glory and drive the Nords from their lands. Edited May 22, 2012 by macole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robanybody2000 Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Imperials ARE Nords lorewise, they may have become different in culture and the land has shaped their bodies different, but in the end they're both the same race (The Imperial race didn't even exist before Oblivion),Just a minor point, Imperials were introduced as a playable race in Morrowind. Morrowind and Oblivion (TES III and TES IV) took place at the same time only in different areas of Tamriel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macole Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Imperials ARE Nords lorewise, they may have become different in culture and the land has shaped their bodies different, but in the end they're both the same race (The Imperial race didn't even exist before Oblivion),Just a minor point, Imperials were introduced as a playable race in Morrowind. Morrowind and Oblivion (TES III and TES IV) took place at the same time only in different areas of Tamriel.I beleive the timeline is rather linear and runs in the following fashion; note that a few years seperate each Arena in 3E 399 Daggerfall in 3E 405 - 3E 417Morrowind takes place in 3E 427 - 3E 429 Elder Scrolls IV Oblivion 3E 433 - 4E 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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