Online Video Game Industry.

[Deleted54170User]

You got all the game insight. Even the parts you thought were over your head were thoughts you figured out. The thoughts were intentionally from the young peoples point of raw curiosity. They are the hopefull whims that we will help them understand.

 

Good going!

[Mudran]

But I still don't see the point of your original post :)

e-arcade games means - those games, where you pay to play a session until you die? or mobile games, where you pay for better progress or something. I wouldn't say online industry is changing into that - it was always there?

it looks OK for me to pay for servers - they need to pay for online servers, so we pay to be able to play. But what I meant is that there is a better way.

 

What I don't understand is how much it all went down when it comes to cooperation with players.

Do you know what was the main reason Andromeda failed? It wasn't that it would be a terrible game. I think it is possible that the main reason why it wasn't success was that EA doesn't understand RPG games, so they trusted Bioware and Bioware for some reason created another copy of Dragon Age inquisition, so when players heard that it is a similar game, they didn't buy it. Because they wrote very nicely all their complains on Bioware forums, but Bioware didn't like how players complained about Dragon age Inquisition and instead of changing their newly formed formula, they went on with it.

And I guess that EA expected success - the same they had with launching Dragon Age Inquisition, so they even hired an expensive actress for voice acting. So after it didn't meet their financial expectations, they lost those extra PR money and because they are not expert for RPG games, they simply decided to put it all down. But not only that, with their new online games, they didn't bother with any big investments anymore. And it would be enough if Bioware would be able to create a real RPG game again.

 

And I think that it was somehow connected with Fallout 4 too - Bethesda started to change their formula for some reason to match Bioware new games - or maybe some new trend. And again - when players complained, they are creating a new game, where will be no RPG players asked for. It could be an end to that franchise. Why? And Bethesda PR is prepared for this - with an aggressive PR bashing, Zenimax Online started to be known for. They will not make games better - they will silence anyone complaining about it...

Another behavior I saw recently is that the gap between players and devs is bigger and bigger because they think they are something better, they know things players don't, so they think players have no right to say what they wish for. It looks like it is quite popular thinking among some groups.

So it looks like the main problem of gaming online industry is that they are not the same as players are, they don't have the same visions, dreams or if they do, the company is so big, it will be never created. And those, who are in charge, are chasing who knows what - most of the time it is not even the most profitable solution, it just looks like created to make some players frustrated.

So what is the solution?

[Deleted54170User]

I wrote the olriginal point because I was instructed from an online course on How to learn how to start a debate. The first step was to find a topc and use only one or two sentences with as few words as possible to begin.

[HeyYou]

I wrote the olriginal point because I was instructed from an online course on How to learn how to start a debate. The first step was to find a topc and use only one or two sentences with as few words as possible to begin.

You were taking a course on how to start a debate?????? For most folks, that just comes naturally. :D Especially on an online forum.

[Deleted54170User]

Didn't I mention that was crippled earlier and spent most of my important developmental years listening without there being any prosthetic devices in those days. When I recovered the other children avoided me because they didn't know what happened to me. Most of them were simple minded and just thought I had bad luck.

 

All through K-10th grade I learned most everything from books. I've learned with the aide of many different prosthetic devices. I,ve had many people tell me how lucky I am to be alive. One old timer, I had thought was a good friend, confessed that all those those years he hung around he was just trying to figure out how to rob me.

 

Figuring out what my prosthetic devices were worth and if anyone would even know what they were was a daunting task.

[SnowFox35]

I assume that since video games transitioned from being considered a small, fun pastime into being known as one of the main forms of entertainment via the cyber and/or electronic world in just a few years, video game manufacturing companies are still playing around with and discovering new main ways to sell their products now that video games are so widespread over the world now.

 

From that logic, a couple companies such as Electronic Arts / EA, Blizzard Entertainment, and Ubisoft generated massive amounts of income from trying tactics to help sell themselves better, and found some things that worked, therefore instantaneously these same tactics (loot boxes, ways of promotion, paywalls, etc, etc.) were then seen as great value from a business standpoint, and saying that, it just became knowledge that's considered "modern day marketing."

[Deleted54170User]

SnowFox35

 

I think I am trying really hard to scare myself enough so I build a real galaxy traveling ship, so I can pack up, and get off this planet. For some reason no one's new video games interest me even in the slightest way lately.

 

I think that owning a Casino is the only other way to get out from under the feeling of owing my soul to a Casino.

 

Oops!

 

Nope!

 

Owning a Casino is like owing my soul to a casino too imo.

 

I think the people who know well, how a well oiled city works well, with the Italian techniques for business employed the way they do it. All the other successful cities have similar family integration. The Casinos are a version of just how well they make the gambling ways serve a purpose.

 

They would not let something as useful as the Video Game Industry slip out of the well oiled plan now that it's served so well for so many years within the Jewish companies. Movies, Television, Radio, all have a connection to a certain race of people, just like the Italian businesses do.

 

Little children grow up. Teen age children who followed Facebook since the creator started it when he was barely out of his teens are all grown up. They are also angry at how his promises panned out, but of course, that is because they've all grown up.

 

More grown ups play video games.

 

Casino's are for grown ups.

 

So; the Video Game Industry's will become like Casino's.

[SnowFox35]

If it gets to the point where the two intentions detailing playing something for fun and playing something to gamble begin to mix and the fine line between them starts to fade away and become less visible, I think that's a point where people should redirect their attention.

 

As of now, it's only spending a few dollars to reach over and feel around the other side of the paywall—which isn't desired in of itself—but if the issue arises that video games become solely a place for people to spend money and pray to the RNG Gods their money has gone to good use, that's when it becomes concerning. Additionally, it's also possible law wouldn't consider it gambling and change their mind, with an argument akin to "it's not gambling if it's not a casino."

 

That's what I'm kind of scared of.

[Deleted54170User]

Such fun, for Children of the Earth!

 

Casino's for adults who've remembered all the cities of the dying and died out ancient civilizations.

[Mudran]

Is there a difference in feelings to lootboxes between America, where I have heard gambling is very limited (but not online casinos) and Europe, where is no limitation, only regulation?

 

Also in the end, as was proven by many games, players do care more about the quality of content rather than monetization, but as anything annoying, it is quite capable of spoiling the game, which is very often underestimated by online companies and actually sometimes even propagated as a strategy by marketing department - so I realized back again - we need not just clever, but also with high standards marketing department people, they are those, who can save the online industry. I know, that is nothing new, but I came back to that again. So many good RPG devs claim, that they didn't have the power to change the course of their game - that sounds really frustrating. And they cannot create their own project, because they need good monetization - they cannot just give it for free, esp. if it is a big project like an online game. But if Bethesda /Zenimax preaches on Universities how lootboxes are the best way how to run an MMO... Is there anyone who can come with a new idea how to do it differently? I just offered my own feeling - what I liked in online games and how I would build on that more.

 

And Pagafyr, you are reallly crazy :) So I'm glad I don't have to feel stupid when I don't understand you :p Also I'm sorry when I will not be able reply to you in the future, child of Earth, no matter how many courses you took :) Also I'm glad that the whole point was actually discussion about online game industry, so I got that right :p