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So I downloaded about 300ish mods and patches. Yea I know it is a lot but I was ambitious and was expecting to use MO2 and then decided to use Vortex instead.

 

I just installed all the mods. So now that I did that I can either enable ALL the mods and then auto sort the plugins or enable them one at a time in a somewhat proper order from what I remember? because I don't remember the details of each mod, I was hoping vortex will figure that out for the most part for me and where the patches go.

 

The reason I downloaded all at once is because I thought I was going to be using MO2, I remember using MO back in the day and when sorting plugins there was a side window that had details about the mod from the author or from nexus and most of the time it would say where to place it in your load order. I'm hoping that if I enable all the installed mods at once it will be something like that? I really don't want to have to go check each mod on the nexus to see where it goes or mods that it isn't compatible with.

 

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Order of enabling shouldn't matter, since Vortex doesn't overwrite. For any conflicts that may arise, you get a popup and asks you which mod you want to win the conflict (essentially the same as installing it later). What you need to take note of is install in 5-10 at a time and do a test run.

 

Vortex has LOOT built in so it will build your load order for you.

 

If you're using Skyrim(any variant), you can do the 28 Step Test Run by tonycubed.

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One of the best features of Vortex is that it does most of the load order heavy lifting for you. You're almost never going to need the side window.

 

Before you take your "next step," I would urge you to consult the excellent documentation for Vortex, if you have not already done so. Click here for that documentation: https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/7060326-vortex-help-center-faq-documentation/

 

Now to take the "next step." (In what follows I describe the method I always use when setting up a modded game with Vortex.)

 

Before doing anything else, turn on auto-sort and auto-deploy. Then start enabling your mods one at a time. Vortex will sort and deploy as you go along. If there's an issue, Vortex will notify you. Typically, however, it's an issue that will be resolved as you continue to enable your mods. For example, Vortex may warn you if there's a missing master. It will also tell you what master it is. You can then immediately enable the master or continue to enable mods individually until you reach the master. In either case, when the master is enabled, Vortex will automatically dismiss the warning. In the meantime, Vortex keeps on sorting and deploying.

 

As you enable mods one by one, Vortex will also notify you when there are mod conflicts. These conflicts, of course, are not errors. They are instances of overlapping files, e.g., overlapping textures. Whereas most other mod managers will ask if you want one mod to overwrite the other by installing over it, Vortex enables both mods and then asks you to set a dependency rule (e.g., Mod A load before Mod B). The beauty of this arrangement is that you don't have to uninstall one mod and reinstall another if you change your mind about the texture file (or whatever other file) that you want. You simply change the rule.

 

After enabling a few mods, you should periodically launch you game to see if everything's OK. Chanchan05's in his post above provides some excellent advice about that.

 

Once you've completed enabling all your mods, Vortex will have taken care of most of your load order issues, However, in a game setup like yours with 300ish mods and patches (especially patches), there will undoubtedly be some situations that require very special attention. Here's where Vortex stands out head and shoulders above the crowd. And here's where you need to consult the Vortex help center documentation for instruction on how to handle these situations. In my own experience, however, I've found these special cases to be extremely rare. That's because Vortex has already automatically taken care of most of them.

 

Good luck! I wish you every success in your undertaking.

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Ok so enable order doesn't matter but only enable 5-10 at a time right?

 

You said INSTALL 5-10 at a time and test but I don't think you mean I have to uninstall all my mods and start over. I think you meant ENABLE 5-10 of the installed mods at a time and test? Right?...I hope?

 

 

 

Does loot/vortex also detect the correct load order for patches I enable? Most of my mods are from page 1-20 of the most downloaded mods of all time and I think LOOT knows how to place popular mods but not new one offs that were just released right?

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One of the best features of Vortex is that it does most of the load order heavy lifting for you. You're almost never going to need the side window.

 

Before you take your "next step," I would urge you to consult the excellent documentation for Vortex, if you have not already done so. Click here for that documentation: https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/7060326-vortex-help-center-faq-documentation/

 

Now to take the "next step." (In what follows I describe the method I always use when setting up a modded game with Vortex.)

 

Before doing anything else, turn on auto-sort and auto-deploy. Then start enabling your mods one at a time. Vortex will sort and deploy as you go along. If there's an issue, Vortex will notify you. Typically, however, it's an issue that will be resolved as you continue to enable your mods. For example, Vortex may warn you if there's a missing master, It will also tell you what master it is. You can then immediately enable the master or continue to enable mods individually until you reach the master. In either case, when the master is enabled, Vortex will automatically dismiss the warning. In the meantime, Vortex keeps on sorting and deploying.

 

As you enable mods one by one, Vortex will also notify you when there are mod conflicts. These conflicts, of course, are not errors. They are instances of overlapping files, e.g., overlapping textures. Whereas most other mod managers will ask if you want one mod to overwrite the other by installing over it, Vortex enables both mods and then asks you to set a dependency rule (e.g., Mod A load before Mod B). The beauty of this arrangement is that you don't have to uninstall one mod and reinstall another if you change your mind about the texture file (or whatever other file) that you want. You simply change the rule.

 

After enabling a few mods, you should periodically launch you game to see if everything's OK. Chanchan05's in his post above provides some excellent advice about that.

 

Once you've completed enabling all your mods, Vortex will have taken care of most of your load order issues, However, in a game setup like yours with 300ish mods and patches (especially patches), there will undoubtedly be some situations that require very special attention. Here's where Vortex stands out head and shoulders above the crowd. And here's where you need to consult the Vortex help center documentation for instruction on how to handle these situations. In my own experience, however, I've found these special cases to be extremely rare. That's because Vortex has already automatically taken care of most of them.

 

Good luck! I wish you every success in your undertaking.

 

 

Thanks for the reply, that helps a lot.

 

I will look at the "Resolving Issues" branch, hopefully that will help but I'm sure I will get stuck. My problem is I downloaded so many textures I'm worried there will be a lot of issues. Plus I downloaded mods that required other mods to be installed but I think that is what you meant when vortex alerts me that there are missing masters and those alerts stop once I enable mod it refers to as master. Like FNIS or the unofficial skyrim special edition patch...etc, a lot of the mods I downloaded required the USSE patch.

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Ok so enable order doesn't matter but only enable 5-10 at a time right?

 

You said INSTALL 5-10 at a time and test but I don't think you mean I have to uninstall all my mods and start over. I think you meant ENABLE 5-10 of the installed mods at a time and test? Right?...I hope?

 

 

 

Does loot/vortex also detect the correct load order for patches I enable? Most of my mods are from page 1-20 of the most downloaded mods of all time and I think LOOT knows how to place popular mods but not new one offs that were just released right?

 

Yeah sorry. Enable. This is because you'll be running a check. Ideally you want to go into the game and look at the stuff you modded and see if they work fine. If you install say 100 mods, and when you walk to the first town and your game suddenly crashed, how will you know with of the last 100 causes the issue? That's why install 5-10, then run the game and check (new game each time), so if something goes wrong in the checking, you only have 5-10 mods to look into that's possibly causing the issues.

 

And yes Vortex will also sort patches accordingly.

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So I downloaded about 300ish mods and patches. Yea I know it is a lot but I was ambitious and was expecting to use MO2 and then decided to use Vortex instead.

 

I just installed all the mods. So now that I did that I can either enable ALL the mods and then auto sort the plugins or enable them one at a time in a somewhat proper order from what I remember? because I don't remember the details of each mod, I was hoping vortex will figure that out for the most part for me and where the patches go.

 

The reason I downloaded all at once is because I thought I was going to be using MO2, I remember using MO back in the day and when sorting plugins there was a side window that had details about the mod from the author or from nexus and most of the time it would say where to place it in your load order. I'm hoping that if I enable all the installed mods at once it will be something like that? I really don't want to have to go check each mod on the nexus to see where it goes or mods that it isn't compatible with.

 

Open to suggestions!

 

Initially I start of in sections, first I'll download all the "Required utility Mods" like anti-crash, F4SE, FOSE, NVSE, SKSE64, Unofficial Patch etc

Then I'll download all the UI mods first, and get them up and running, because those are usually the biggest pain in the ass to get right.

 

Then I download Body Mods and Skeletons, and armor and clothing for said body mods, and get those working, because those can be a pain in the ass too.

 

Then I'll download weapon mods, game enhancements etc.

 

Once I get the "Necessary Mods" all set up perfectly, then I'll just go on a "Mod Shopping Spree" by looking at the TOP FILES (OF ALL Time) for a game, and then I open them all in new tabs, then click on DOWNLOAD WITH MOD MANAGER, so they install automatically, and I keep downloading and browsing while ignoring any conflict messages Vortex is complaining about and I keep on downloading and installing until I'm done, then I deal with the conflicts

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